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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 08:50 PM
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***Is Britain Pulling Out? Feinman Said It's All Over When That Happens**
Edited on Thu Oct-12-06 09:34 PM by Dinger
I just heard this on Olbermann. Also, on Wolfie's show earlier, they seemed to hint that the chimp is rethinking Iraq. I did read something about this on DU earlier, not sure which thread. To me, this means Britain IS pulling out. What do you think?
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 08:52 PM
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1. There's supposed to be a BBC rpt about a statement from the UK army chief-
In an unprecedented statement that will be printed in the UK Daily Mail tomorrow, General Sir Richard Dannatt KCB CBE MC, the current Head of the British Army and Chief of the General Staff, has said that UK presence in Iraq is hindering and not helping peace in that country and they should withdraw. "Our presence exacerbates the security problems"

In reporting this story a few minutes ago, Sky News described this as "sensational". It totally overturns UK foreign policy and the stance of the UK government. Dannatt is not a retired military man nor one who has any record of being disaffected. It is a total break from the precedent that serving officers, not least one in such an elevated position, do not, ever, comment on government policy....

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/10/12/173855/29
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lyonn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 09:09 PM
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2. That's what is sounded like to me also.
Something like G. Britain is pulling out soon. How bad would that move be for the repubs if it comes out before Nov.? Giggle
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hsher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 09:11 PM
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3. If Diana had lived, they wouldn't have even entered
:tinfoilhat:

Convenient death, that. Like JFK Jr.'s over here.


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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 09:41 PM
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4. What would Diana have had to do with it?
Neither she nor JFK Jr. would have had any effect on what happened.
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hsher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 11:54 PM
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10. You don't think so?
I always felt Diana would have stirred up public outcry against Britain joining the invasion. JFK Jr. would have made * look like an even bigger idiot than * is. He also could have made a very effective Democrat challenger for the Presidency. JFK Jr.'s death was like the sudden, brutal murder of the son of a beloved King, one despised by an enemy regime anxious to rise to power and subvert the Democrat "monarchy". Just my tinfoil hat thoughts. :tinfoilhat:
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sueh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 11:59 PM
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11. There was public outcry from the British people b4 the Iraq invasion...
and as much as I admired Diana, I don't think she could have stopped it.
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hsher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 12:27 AM
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13. :(
Probably not... I'm wondering if WE can NOW. :(
Seems like nothing can.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 09:47 PM
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5. BBC link on Sir Richard Dannatt, Chief of the General Staff
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6046332.stm

The head of the British Army has said the presence of UK armed forces in Iraq "exacerbates the security problems".

In an interview in the Daily Mail, Sir Richard Dannatt, Chief of the General Staff, is quoted as saying the British should "get out some time soon".
snip
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 09:52 PM
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6. Both events are tied together
If Britain leaves, Bush looks like the dumbass cowboy he pretends to be.
But he is going to have to make a tough choice (or his handlers will).

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TheBaldyMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 10:13 PM
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7. there have been rumblings for years that the GWOT is a POS ...
From The Manchester Guardian Fri 29th Sep 2006 headline story; Take Troops Out of Iraq, senior military tell ministers

This has been headline news in Britain for weeks now. The underlying story of the military brass viewing the war as hamstrung because short term political ends take priority over military needs has been bubbling under for YEARS.

In a nutshell: the wrong war, fought the wrong way, for the wrong reasons.

To add insult to injury, UK forces have endured redundancies, privatised support services (lower quality but more profitable for private industry), lower pay than UN/NATO counterparts and lousy equipment.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 10:54 PM
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8. Brit's pulling out is scheduled for Friday news
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 10:56 PM
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9. chimp can't "rethink" anything.
He can't even "think" anything.
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LaPera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 12:03 AM
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12. Not as long as Bush's "Poodle' Tony Blair is in power. n/t
Edited on Fri Oct-13-06 12:06 AM by LaPera
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