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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 03:10 PM
Original message
FYI: "What if the Liberals Win in November?"
Edited on Thu Oct-12-06 03:42 PM by Emit
Here's an email I just received (part of my black ops assignment -- getting email alerts from the other side) from American Family Association. It seems pretty desperate! Same crap I heard late last night on the right wing hate radio -- "If Hillary wins in '08, she'll appoint Bill as a SC Justice...."


October 11, 2006

Please help us get this information into the hands of as many people as possible by forwarding it to your entire email list of family and friends.

What if the Liberals Win in November?

Dear Emit,


How important are the upcoming elections? Extremely important! Below is a list of what we can expect if the liberals win. These elections are crucial. It is vitally important that you vote. Please vote and encourage others to do the same. As bad as things are, they will be infinitely worse if the liberals win.

The strategy of the liberals is to get Values Voters so disgusted and discouraged that they will not vote. If that happens, the liberals will have achieved their goal and they will be running our country.

Here is what we can expect if the liberals win:

Amnesty for 12,000,000 illegal immigrants.

A push to make homosexual marriage and polygamy legal in all 50 states.

Only liberal judges will be appointed. They will create laws to implement the social agenda liberals cannot get passed through the legislative process.

Liberals will make the killing of the unborn more difficult to stop.

Liberals will continue to try to rid our society of Christian influence, including any reference to God in our Pledge and on our currency.

A return to the "Fairness Doctrine" in broadcasting where opposing views must be given equal time. Every conservative talk show host will be forced to give a liberal equal time on every issue. The purpose of this rule will be to shut down conservative talk shows.

An increase in taxes to push new social programs.

Passing a new "hate crimes" law making it illegal to refer to homosexuality in a negative manner.

Liberals will give terrorists from other countries who try to kill Americans the same rights American citizens enjoy under our constitution.

We will withdraw from Iraq, sending the message to the terrorists that if they will just be patient they can win and bring their terrorist acts to the U.S.

Go Vote! Encourage Others To Do The Same.
Sign up to stayed informed! Visit the American Family Association at www.AFA.net today!

Sincerely,



Donald E. Wildmon, Founder and Chairman
American Family Association

P.S. Please forward this e-mail message to your family and friends!



On Edit:

A little self-disclosure in case anyone is interested: I've been receiving these kinds of emails from these kinds of folks for about a year or more now as part of my effort in working with my local Dem party -- I can pass on stuff to people that need to know what the other side is up to, they can pass it on to specific campaigns, etc. and also, just to keep myself and my contacts informed. (It's a dirty job, but someone has to do it!)

When this particular group, AFA, emails me with their little agenda and action plan, I usually use their forms to do JUST THE OPPOSITE of what they are asking. For example, a while back, I got one of these action alerts regarding one of the big auto companies, Ford, I think. AFA was ragging on them because the company was supporting a gay rights event. Well, I used their action letter/emailer addressed to the company, changed the wording to add praise and encouragement for their supporting gay rights, and sent it off!

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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 03:11 PM
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1. Letters like that just boggle the mind.
I keep wanting to think that it's a joke. But these wackos aren't joking. x(
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Amy6627 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 03:15 PM
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2. And as "Christians" they should want to have more social programs.
Are they supposed to HELP the underprivileged?
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Not Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 03:16 PM
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3. Actually, Bill Clinton would make a great SC justice
nt
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Phredicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 03:22 PM
Response to Reply #3
12. There's a precedent, too:
William Howard Taft was a Supreme Court Justice after his (lousy) presidency.
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SpreadItAround Donating Member (265 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 03:16 PM
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4. Oh noes! The liberals are coming!
Everybody panic! Lock up your children!
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 03:16 PM
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5. What utter bullshit.
People better not believe this shit.
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DeeDeeNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 03:17 PM
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6. It would almost be funny
if it weren't so sad.
(When did the liberals add polygamy to their platform? Those sly dogs!)
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 03:17 PM
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7. This boggles the mind - "... polygamy legal in all 50 states."
My Liberal Agenda codebook seems to be missing that chapter. Anyone got a patch for Liberal Agenda 06 ver.10.3 they can upload for me? I guess I'm still running .2.
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electropop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 03:22 PM
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11. I thought it was right-wing religious kooks doing all the polygamy.
Now they're trying to make it OUR issue? Puh-leez.
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Howardx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 03:43 PM
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25. wtf?
thats right its the fundies who are into that
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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 03:22 PM
Response to Reply #7
13. What a minute. Polygamy isn't legal????
Uh, oh.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 03:17 PM
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8. thats the best they can do???
:rofl:
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 03:18 PM
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9. Hell, we might make it a crime to miss Battlestar Galactaca
And Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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Sapere aude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 03:19 PM
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10. Some of that sounds pretty good to me. I hope the liberals win
Amnesty for 12,000,000 illegal immigrants.

OK by me

A push to make homosexual marriage legal in all 50 states.

OK by me

Only liberal judges will be appointed.

OK by me

Liberals will make the killing of the unborn more difficult to stop.

If this means protecting a woman's right to choose, OK by me

Liberals will continue to try to rid our society of Christian influence, including any reference to God in our Pledge and on our currency.

OK by me

A return to the "Fairness Doctrine" in broadcasting where opposing views must be given equal time. Every conservative talk show host will be forced to give a liberal equal time on every issue. The purpose of this rule will be to shut down conservative talk shows.

OK by me, how can you be against fairness?

An increase in taxes to push new social programs.


If this means redirecting taxes from war to health care, education, social safety nets and reversing the tax cut for the wealthy, OK by me

Passing a new "hate crimes" law making it illegal to refer to homosexuality in a negative manner.

Why should we protect discrimination based on sexual preference?

Liberals will give terrorists from other countries who try to kill Americans the same rights American citizens enjoy under our constitution.

No liberals will protect the rights that we already have from fascists

We will withdraw from Iraq,

OK by me


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importDavid Donating Member (109 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 03:40 PM
Response to Reply #10
22. Perfecto.
I would sleep soooo much better at night if these things were in place.

Kudos!
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 03:24 PM
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14. So glad these morans tell others what Liberals will do, since we
can't seem to get our message out to counter this crap. Oh that must have something to do with that pesky Fairness Doctrine that this twit is so worried about being restored if Liberals win. Well as long as things are only bad now, not too worry, right? These people are freaks!
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 03:25 PM
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15. "If the liberals win we'll all be speaking PROPER ENGLISH!!!111"
A riff on "if we didn't invade Iraq you would all be speaking Arabic by now." :crazy:
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 03:28 PM
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16. Shocked that Wildmon concedes that things are going badly
I mean, a return of the "Fairness Doctrine"! Horrors. Will those dastardly Democrats stop at nothing??? Everyone knows that in a fair fight, the conservatives don't stand a chance. They need unfettered access to the airwaves and an untrammeled flow of their ideas to keep people convinced that they should continue to vote against their own interests.

Wildmon is so delusional; it's a damn shame he's succeeded in deluding so many others.
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 09:42 PM
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45. A return to the Fairness Doctrine... it is so important and is so sorely
needed.

"A return to the "Fairness Doctrine" in broadcasting where opposing views must be given equal time. Every conservative talk show host will be forced to give a liberal equal time on every issue. ..."

Is this not such an absurd implied statement by Wildmon?!!??

gratuitous, What you say here is so true! -- "They need unfettered access to the airwaves and an untrammeled flow of their ideas to keep people convinced that they should continue to vote against their own interests..."

How can anyone in their right mind think in these terms, or admit to this? Yack, I'm at a loss of words and can barely find any words to explain how I feel about this.
:crazy:
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gordianot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 03:30 PM
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17. Remember when Democrats were in control?
There was once numerous Democrats and liberals that controlled Congress, and none of the things on that list came to pass. Republicans rely on those who lack education, have short memories and /or, have an agenda to maintain wealth, the main qualities to believe these lines.

Any time you see an organization that promotes this drivel and has "Family", "Value", "American", or "Christian", it is fair to guess what they really represent.
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Golden Raisin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 03:33 PM
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18. Letters like these really
make me believe we should have some sort of secession again in this country. Let these maniacs have their own country, with their own hatefulness, insularity and foolishness. Let the "Liberals" keep the Constitution and the Bill of Rights since Wildmon and Co. have no interest in either. I lived through Vietnam and saw great division amongst the American populace but I have NEVER seen this country so divided as it is now --- this red/blue thing is so pronounced it is almost like a Civil War. Nor have I lived through any Presidency where the President (Republican or Democrat) made no effort to unite, heal and bind together. Bush, on the contrary feeds the flames of disunity, difference and divisiveness.
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melissinha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 03:34 PM
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19. polygamy?
Polygamists are usually conservatives, you idiot.

You are nothing but a liar...


So what wrong with wanting to balance our budget and pay as you go? Oh yeah and whats wrong with helping hte poor tha was Jesus' main lesson, help the poor.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 04:38 PM
Response to Reply #19
35. He must be confusing Democrats with Utahns.
:wtf:
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 03:35 PM
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20. Wildmon. What I think about him, you couldn't print on this site.
Such a stupid SHIT.

Amnesty for 12,000,000 illegal immigrants. No opinion on this one way or the other, but sounds like supreme exaggeration on someone's part.

A push to make homosexual marriage and polygamy legal in all 50 states. EVERYONE should be allowed to marry, you hateful bigoted fucktard. Right, Donny. Polygamy. Next is man-dog sex, right?

Only liberal judges will be appointed. They will create laws to implement the social agenda liberals cannot get passed through the legislative process. Like man-dog sex. You stupid fuck.

Liberals will make the killing of the unborn more difficult to stop. Hey, assvacuum, NO ONE IS PRO ABORTION!!!! NO ONE. We're pro-"Not Letting Fat Rich White Old Dickheads Control What Women Can and Cannot Do with their Bodies". Piece of shit.

Liberals will continue to try to rid our society of Christian influence, including any reference to God in our Pledge and on our currency. Uh, yeah. Last I checked, we're a DEMocracy, not a THEocracy.

A return to the "Fairness Doctrine" in broadcasting where opposing views must be given equal time. Every conservative talk show host will be forced to give a liberal equal time on every issue. The purpose of this rule will be to shut down conservative talk shows. Last I checked, Donny Tonsilhockey, there isn't a SINGLE all-liberal media channel ANYwhere on TV.

An increase in taxes to push new social programs. You have no one to blame but your "Spend and Spend" party for that one, bub. Wasting countless dollars on the rich and oil wars . . . how did you think this debt was going to get paid? Fairies? Oh right, it's always "someone else's problem".

Passing a new "hate crimes" law making it illegal to refer to homosexuality in a negative manner. If I were a wizard, I'd give him severe elephantitis of the nuts for even writing this.

Liberals will give terrorists from other countries who try to kill Americans the same rights American citizens enjoy under our constitution. Right, because the worst terrorist attacks in history didn't happen on Bewsh's watch, you dumb fuck.

We will withdraw from Iraq, sending the message to the terrorists that if they will just be patient they can win and bring their terrorist acts to the U.S. "THEIR ARMEES ARE BIGGER'N CHINA, ANDY!!!1!! THEY HAVE THEY"RE OWN FLEET O" JETS!!!!111!!! TERR TERR TERR!!!!11!1!!!"

Stupid.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 03:37 PM
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21. POINT BY POINT
Edited on Thu Oct-12-06 03:39 PM by berni_mccoy
Amnesty for 12,000,000 illegal immigrants.
Check. Already under way

A push to make homosexual marriage and polygamy legal in all 50 states.
How about not violating the Constitutional rights of homosexuals by illegalizing something for them that is legal for heterosexuals

Only liberal judges will be appointed. They will create laws to implement the social agenda liberals cannot get passed through the legislative process.
Yes, only liberal judges should be appointed. Otherwise, you'll have conservative judges handing bush a dictatorship

Liberals will make the killing of the unborn more difficult to stop.
Giving women the right to choose does not involving killing anyone or anything (unless you are an abortion clinic bomber)

Liberals will continue to try to rid our society of Christian influence, including any reference to God in our Pledge and on our currency.
Society can have all the relgious freedom it wants, just keep your religion out of the government

A return to the "Fairness Doctrine" in broadcasting where opposing views must be given equal time. Every conservative talk show host will be forced to give a liberal equal time on every issue. The purpose of this rule will be to shut down conservative talk shows.
A return to fairness in media? Wow that would be great.

An increase in taxes to push new social programs.
You are going to have to pay for the 10 TRILLION dollar debt that the republicans racked up somehow... let's tax the hell out of all the multi-millioniares created by the bush regime's war profiteering

Passing a new "hate crimes" law making it illegal to refer to homosexuality in a negative manner.
You can talk all you want, but if you inspire violence against any single group with hate, then it's a plain and simple hate crime

Liberals will give terrorists from other countries who try to kill Americans the same rights American citizens enjoy under our constitution.
Let's just start with honoring the Constitution for U.S. citizens and the Geneva conventions for enemy combatants. By upholding the Constitution, we recognize the principles this country was founded on and by upholding the Geneva conventions, we honor our agreement with the international community on the way we have successfully navigated the darkness of many wars.

We will withdraw from Iraq, sending the message to the terrorists that if they will just be patient they can win and bring their terrorist acts to the U.S.
By staying the course we accomplish nothing other than using our soldiers as training fodder for the terrorists as Iraq destabilizes into chaos. Following Rep. Jack Murtha's plan, we will secure Iraq through redeployment and air support without putting our soldiers in unnecessary danger.
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cpass Donating Member (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 04:25 PM
Response to Reply #21
34. when you say constitution
geneva convention, what does that mean? wait for terrorists to change? Why do that? That will NEVER happen!!
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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 03:42 PM
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23. Tough luck. This is an overwhelmingly liberal country.
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tjwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 03:43 PM
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24. Bottom line: if you are from the RR and still vote republican...
...after everything that has surfaced the past couple of weeks in that regard--you're a fucking tool and deserve every sneer of derision that comes your way.

That letter isn't even worthy of a point by point response.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 03:45 PM
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26. Fuck the AFA, so far all those things sound pretty good to me!
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 03:48 PM
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27. Thanks for posting that, Emit.
:toast:

What an amazing document! It's hard to know where to begin with that one. Just amazing that every single point is basically a right-wing Republican point.

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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 06:01 PM
Response to Reply #27
40. Hey, BurtWorm
Edited on Thu Oct-12-06 06:02 PM by Emit
This email is unfrigginbelievable, no? It is hard to know where to begin! And, on those rare occasions, such as last night driving home from our Dem Headquarters, when I turn on right wing hate talk radio, these are the very same messages I'm hearing right now. It is very telling, isn't it? They are on cue with their talking points and this (these points) is the latest "threat" being touted. Wrapped up in one big package, the message seems to be, "Things are shit, we've screwed up, but What If Liberals Win?!". Wacko shit, I tell ya.
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StraightDope Donating Member (716 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 03:48 PM
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28. "Only liberal judges will be appointed..."
"Only liberal judges will be appointed. They will create laws to implement the social agenda liberals cannot get passed through the legislative process."

Since when do judges create laws? Idiocy of the Right never ceases to astound...
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 03:55 PM
Response to Reply #28
31. "Create laws"?????? Are they freaking kidding us?
Looks like SOMEBODY needs to go back to civics class!
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 03:53 PM
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29. I started to read, looking for the "banning the Bible" talking point -
sure enough, not even halfway down the page...

"Liberals will continue to try to rid our society of Christian influence, including any reference to God in our Pledge and on our currency."

JACKPOT!! :rofl: Wildmon...your charm is all about your predictability...NOT!!
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Rocknrule Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 03:55 PM
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30. Oh my God! They're gonna take away our right...
...to force Christianity on the whole country, control women, have a complete monopoly on the media, kill brown people, and keep the queers and blacks in their place!

The horror!
:sarcasm:
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 03:56 PM
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32. We must be bad if we want terrorists tried in a court of law...
:sarcasm:
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DeadManInc Donating Member (844 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 04:24 PM
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33. Too bad these morans were not aborted.
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tenshi816 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 04:43 PM
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36. I don't like admitting this,
but I'm so close to actually hating these people. I don't like admitting it because I don't like having these negative feelings but, damn, these are some of the most vile, hate-filled people on the planet themselves. They taint the country.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 04:43 PM
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37. "An increase in taxes to push new social programs"
This one is sandwiched right in the middle of all those homo scare ones. It's the only one that the rw bastards actually care about.
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fleabert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 04:46 PM
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38. I got that POS as a fwd from a family member who just LOVES to rile me up.
I don't give him the satisfaction, although that little letter made me so mad I could spit.

disgusting. if anyone wants to craft a response, by all means- give it to me and I will 'reply all'
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pdxmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 04:52 PM
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39. So they're admitting that they suck? They're entire campaign strategy
is that the Democrats would suck worse - based on nothing? Hahaha!
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 06:09 PM
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41. the fairness doctrine..
that absolutely must be priority number one IF the Dems take control of Congress.
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Rocknrule Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 06:13 PM
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42. I'm surprised that list doesn't include
"Liberals want to give women and negroes special rights and deny conservatives the right to burn crosses on their lawns"

Basically this whole thing is "Liberals want to take away our right to oppress and persecute others"
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 06:16 PM
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43. Donald Wildman is a pseudo-Christian terrorist.
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jrandom421 Donating Member (367 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 06:29 PM
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44. And the problems with all this
is.....?
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