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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 03:41 PM
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BUSH: Johns Hopkins "not credible". "Doesn't believe" 655K dead
NEW YORK - President Bush says he doesn't believe it. Some experts have a problem with it. But several others say it seems sound. Such was the varied reception for a controversial new study that estimated the Iraq war has led to the deaths of nearly 655,000 Iraqis as of July.

Researchers from Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore and the Al Mustansiriya University in Baghdad derived that estimate from a door-to-door survey, conducted by doctors, of 1,849 households in Iraq. Taking the number of deaths reported by household residents, they extrapolated to a nationwide figure...

The new study which attributes roughly 600,000 of the deaths directly to violence and 55,000 more to other war-related causes was released Wednesday on the Web site of The Lancet, a respected medical journal. But just how good is its conclusions?

"I don't consider it a credible report," President Bush said Wednesday.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061012/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq...
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 03:42 PM
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1. begs for a monkey photo...
Edited on Thu Oct-12-06 03:45 PM by undeterred
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 03:43 PM
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2. did his face freeze like that???
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 03:43 PM
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3. georgie is not a credible human being.
n/t
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flakey_foont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 03:43 PM
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4. hmmm
this coming from "Mr. Credibility" himself????
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 03:44 PM
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5. Is it just me or is he starting to look like Ivan Ooze?
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 03:44 PM
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6. Who gives a flying fugg what he thinks
Edited on Thu Oct-12-06 03:45 PM by malaise
He has zero credibility. Which rational human being will take his C grade words over scientific studies from internationally renowned universities. Fugg that war criminal.
Sp.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 03:44 PM
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7. John Hopkins, MIT...
You know, a bunch of radical, tree hugging, Commie-loving pinko, lazy-good-for-nothing, latte-sipping, birkenstock wearing, feminazi, dope smoking, librul elitists.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 03:45 PM
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8. He's a creationist.
He believes whatever he wants.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 03:46 PM
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12. And He is The Decider.
:eyes:
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 03:45 PM
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9. nothing like being in denial of the consequences of his actions
oh, what a picture I would love to slap his face!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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keta11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 03:45 PM
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10. Seriously, I never thought a President of the USA could
be this dumb!!
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lvx35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 03:45 PM
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11. How much can it deviate based on the size of their sample?
I mean, Unless there's a major flaw with the sample its somewhere between 300,000 and a million. Either deviation is still a huge amount of people.
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 03:46 PM
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13. And Smirk IS credible????
I'm incredulous! I guess Johns Hopkins med center wouldn't be credible either, in the even that Smirk needed some kind of procedure/treatment that only they could offer ... not that I'm wishing for that to happen, I'm just sayin' ...

Bake
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 03:48 PM
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15. Great followup question: "OK, Mr. Bush, how many ARE dead?"
"Um, uh, mm, uh, mmm..."
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 03:00 AM
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31. .
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rhiannon55 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 03:47 PM
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14. "I'm the Decider and I decide what's credible and what's not!
So there! Nya Nya Nya Nya Nya!"

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bluerum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 03:48 PM
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16. But what if? What if it were accurate? Is that not enough to make one stop
and consider?

What if the numbers were 50% high - "only" 325,000 dead? Is that not a mind numbing thing to comprehend?

What if there were some way you could see you your way to at least acknowledging thousands upon thousands of losses instead of simply calling them "not credible."
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 03:48 PM
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17. Why would he? He's in denial about everything else, so
why not this?
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DRoseDARs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 03:55 PM
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18. I want Yale and Harvard to do a similar study; see what he says then...
...given he's a graduate of both.
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The Blue Flower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 04:05 PM
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19. He used a really big word
He said the "methodology was flawed." I was really hoping someone would ask President Unsophisticated Vocabulary what part of the methodology he disagreed with.
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brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 04:06 PM
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20. "Sorry. It's not credible".
Johns Hopkins ER doctor to * complaining of chest pains.
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 04:07 PM
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21. Separated at birth ( and, yes, they are both puppets)


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USA_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 04:08 PM
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22. Johns Hopkins U is a CONSERVATIVE School
Why is it that liberal schools don't publish this type of research??????
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cedahlia Donating Member (883 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 04:17 PM
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23. Apparently, unless Fox News is the source...
Then the source is not credible! :eyes:

Anyway, I'd be surprised if Lord Pissypants even knows the meaning of the word "credible." Probably thinks it has something to do with a big, scary green man.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 04:19 PM
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24. Bush wants to start a fire then blame the smoke for any deaths
The "logic" is -

If the people in the fire didn't burn to death, then the people didn't die by fire.

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semillama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 04:20 PM
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25. Well, it fits in with woodward's book
"State of Denial"
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 04:20 PM
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26. If Shrub ever gets seriously ill, I hope they rush him to John Hopkins
for a cure.

Just sayin
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 04:21 PM
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27. I hope Johns Hopkins has a contingency plan in place for
funding WHEN THEY LOSE ALL THEIR FEDERAL FUNDING.

'Cause I guarantee you they will be made to pay for this.
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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 06:10 PM
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28. because that means he killed more than Saddam
go figure.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 06:18 PM
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29. And yet
Edited on Thu Oct-12-06 06:19 PM by Horse with no Name
Johns Hopkins using the same methodology in research studies for medical research is credible. :wtf:
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gollygee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 06:19 PM
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30. "Nah nah nah nah nah I can't hear you"
ignoring it doesn't make it any less so.
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