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Rosco T. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 12:25 PM
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OPINIONS: Shrub could re-institute the DRAFT by EXECUTIVE ORDER
got this thrown at me this morning, Chimpy could re-start the draft by EO since "we're at war", totally bypassing the congress and any oversight. Then he could bulk up, go after Iran and Korea. Probably in November "since Democrats are so weak on national security".

Opinions please.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 12:27 PM
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1. No opinions necessary. He can do whatever he wants whenever he wants
Just ask Cheney.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 12:29 PM
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7. I thought that was obvious
to every one.
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 12:28 PM
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2. Only if he felt like removing the GOP from power for a generation.
The GOP will never institute a draft, they will tear the volunteer army to shreds, but never restart the draft.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 12:28 PM
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3. Only In His Mind Are We At War
he hasn't a legal leg to stand on, and the minute he does such a foolish thing, he will be impeached, tried, convicted, and sent on to the Hague. I guarantee it!
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 12:28 PM
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4. I don't understand the "at war" stuff since Congress never declared
war. When did they not have to declare war for us to be "at war?"
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savemefromdumbya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 12:29 PM
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8. thought mission was accomplished long time ago?
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 12:42 PM
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11. If Bush says it, it is so.
Didn't you get that memo?

Oh, yeah, wait, it was if Bush merely *thinks* it, it is so. Duh!

http://www.antiwar.com/ips/fisher.php?articleid=9222
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Hosnon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 12:48 PM
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12. When the war was not started by the United States. Congress has the power
Edited on Thu Oct-12-06 12:49 PM by MJDuncan1982
to initiate an offensive war. A state of war can exist nevertheless, with the U.S. as a participant.

Ex: If the U.S. is directly attacked or if an ally is attacked.
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savemefromdumbya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 12:28 PM
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5. the voters won't be impressed with a draft!
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 12:29 PM
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6. He can try, but I don't see anyone falling for it. He'd be run
out of town, and might be anyway. I can hope!
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 12:35 PM
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9. Is whoever said that in good health and under age 42?
Ask him/her why they haven't enlisted yet. Ask why all able-bodied supporters of the Bush regime and it's foreign policy aren't lining up at the recruiting offices.

They like to compare the current debacle to WW2. Well, during that war EVERYONE pitched in. There were movie actors who enlisted or got commissioned and fought. Everyone else made sacrifices by curtailing their fuel use and rationing food and supplies. The rich got taxed heavily and the middle class bought bonds to pay for the war.

And now? We get hit by terrorists and the President tells people to go shopping. Then mortgages our future to give huge tax CUTS to the wealthy while lavishing money on cronies with no-bid contracts. So-called patriotic Americans slap yellow ribbon magnets on ginormous SUVs.

So some numbnuts thinks the draft should be instituted. Does said numbnuts also support disallowing like college deferments so that young Dick Cheney types won't be able to avoid combat?
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 12:39 PM
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10. I think if he did the call to impeach him would be loud and long
And coming from the republican side of the aisle.
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 01:00 PM
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13. Only the congress can raise and fund armies.
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roamer65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 01:07 PM
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14. Only if he wants massive draft riots.
Lincoln had to quell mass riots in response to his draft during the civil war. Raisinbrain is even more unpopular than Lincoln was during that time period.
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Rosco T. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 01:10 PM
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15. Yeah, but Shrub has Halliburton camps and Blackwater to help him....
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PreacherCasey Donating Member (717 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 01:16 PM
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16. conscientious objector
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 01:16 PM
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17. Make my day, Chimpy!
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patcox2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 01:18 PM
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18. We should pray he does, but he won't.
The liberal democrats have proposed a bill to reinstate the draft and the republicans oppose it. They know the public would not stand for it. If Bush did this, he'd be doing exactly what we want him to do. I'd laugh at whoever said that and say "then the fact that he doesn't proves he doesn't take this war seriously."
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RobinA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 01:30 PM
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20. For a Quick End
to the Iraq war, reinstate the draft. Frankly, I think it would be a good thing, war-wise. It would make a much larger portion of the population have a much larger stake in any war we decide to wage. It's all well and good to walk around supporting a war when you have nothing to lose, but how would the public's opinion of when to take up arms change if the majority of it knew someone or was someone who could actually suffer from the consequences? Make every baby boomer's kid potential cannon fodder, and I doubt we'll see John Kerry et al. giving the President a blank check to wage war.
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 01:23 PM
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19. The President simply needs a 1-page Trigger Resolution
reinstating the DRAFT system that has been takin names all these years.

He cannot do it through a signing statement or Executive Order.

I predict Stay the Course means a Republican DRAFT passed this Nov. or Dec.

A 1-page "Trigger Resolution" No new law or bill or legislation is needed. It's all ready to go: Combat (for Men only age 20-21), Skills (everyone under 35) and Medical (ALL Medical personnel under 45).

I am DU's resident DRAFT expert so ask me anything.

By the way, your ass is grass!
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 06:30 PM
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22. Could they hide that Trigger Resolution in a much larger bill?
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 02:05 PM
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21. Bring it on
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