Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Rice: Does anyone really believe I'd ignore terror warning?

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (01/01/06 through 01/22/2007) Donate to DU
 
kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 12:14 PM
Original message
Rice: Does anyone really believe I'd ignore terror warning?
Rice: Does anyone really believe I'd ignore terror warning?

Ron Brynaert
Published: Thursday October 12, 2006

Early Thursday morning, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice denied that she gave the "brush-off" to an "impending terrorist attack" warning by former C.I.A. director George J. Tenet and his counterterrorism coordinator in July of 2001, two months before the September 11 attacks, which was first reported in Washington Post investigative reporter's Bob Woodward's latest book State of Denial.

The former National Security Adviser, interviewed on Detroit's Paul Smith Show on WJRI Radio, said that the "assertion that would hear about a specific attack and not do anything" is "obviously just not true."

"On July 10, 2001, the book says, Mr. Tenet and his counterterrorism chief, J. Cofer Black, met with Ms. Rice at the White House to impress upon her the seriousness of the intelligence the agency was collecting about an impending attack," David E. Sanger reported for the New York Times in September. "But both men came away from the meeting feeling that Ms. Rice had not taken the warnings seriously."

On the radio, Rice asked rhetorically, "Does anybody really believe that somebody would have walked into my office and said, oh, by the way, there's a chance of a major attack against the United States and I would have said, well, I'm really not interested in that information?"

"I mean, it's just ridiculous," said Rice.

more at:
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/Rice_Does_anyone_real...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Rosco T. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 12:15 PM
Response to Original message
1. Yes, we do... n/m
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 12:15 PM
Response to Original message
2. In a word, "YES"! nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 12:15 PM
Response to Original message
3. Actually Condi ... YES.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 12:15 PM
Response to Original message
4. Why wouldn't we believe it? You've proven over and over and
over again that you're an incompetent wretch.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
station agent Donating Member (290 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 12:15 PM
Response to Original message
5. Yes.
She was the one who said that Iraq was the primary foreign policy focus on day one--not terror like Sandy Berger said, Iraq. So yes, we do believe you would ignore it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
90-percent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 12:19 PM
Original message
Condi, Dear.....
Based on every account of your actions preceding 9-11, it is so easy to believe you ignored all the warnings prior to 9-11.

It's a no-brainer slam dunk.

-85% Jimmy
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
savemefromdumbya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 12:17 PM
Response to Original message
6. Of course she already knew
as she helped plan it? Sounds like it, say no more, say no more....
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
williesgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 12:18 PM
Response to Original message
7. So, Condi, what did you do about it? The truth would be welcome!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 12:18 PM
Response to Original message
8. Hell yeah. And the point is, YOU DID.
I don't believe Tenet started his briefing off with, 'Oh, by the way...', but I do believe the facts prove he got the brush off from the members of the Bush administration.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Homer Wells Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 12:19 PM
Response to Original message
9. YUP!!!!
Without even considering it too closely
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Beelzebud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 12:19 PM
Response to Original message
10. No belief. I KNOW you would...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Downtown Hound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 12:20 PM
Response to Original message
11. Yes I do, primarily because you did
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
davekriss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 12:21 PM
Response to Original message
12. Um, yes Condi, I believe...
...you would ignore warnings about terrorism. In fact I believe that's what you and the Regime you work for did, i.e. let it happen on purpose in order to have your "new Pearl Harbor" needed to manufacture consent for the neo-con/PNAC imperial agenda. The circumstantial evidence is powerful, calling for an independent investigation and not another Whitewash committee.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Porcupine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 09:51 PM
Response to Reply #12
114. To be fair she wasn't given the seat numbers of the terrorists.
Just the kind of attack, the names of potential terrorists, the targets and most probably the date within a week or so. Judging by the non-action of the worlds largest Air Force they also had the date and time of the attacks in order to insert stand down orders also.

But she didn't have the full list of terrorists, flight and seat numbers. So nothing could be done.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 12:21 PM
Response to Original message
13. Condi, it is ridiculous that you were NOT interested in THIS info.........
you've failed miserably in the NSA and as Secretary of State.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 12:21 PM
Response to Original message
14. yes... you sociopathic b*tch (nt)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 12:22 PM
Response to Original message
15. Hey Condom! It wasn't an "Oh, by the way..." moment. It was the
theme of the fucking meeting you traitorous harlot.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Marnieworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 12:29 PM
Response to Reply #15
28. Since when is hair on fire, blinking red, and 10 on a scale of 1 to 10...
a "By the way" communication? Who is stupid enough to be satisfied with this?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 01:16 PM
Response to Reply #28
60. As I said the other day - Condi's threat levels go to 11
Right across the board - 11, 11, 11.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 12:22 PM
Response to Original message
16. yup n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
twilight_sailing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 12:22 PM
Response to Original message
17. Disingenuous Condi
After all the lies you have told, Condi, who is going to trust you now?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
IdaBriggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 12:22 PM
Response to Original message
18. Yes, you incompetent twit, I do! And YOU DID! Firing Squad, PLEASE! nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
NV Whino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 12:23 PM
Response to Original message
19. Yes, Condi.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 12:23 PM
Response to Original message
20. Yes.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 12:23 PM
Response to Original message
21. Does a bear deficate in the woods? She lies as easily as she breathes.
:puke:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
catmandu57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 12:24 PM
Response to Original message
22. OOH OOH OOH
Yes I believe you black hearted souless evil incompetent bitch, now somebody go tell your boss that catmandu57 said bad things about you on the internet.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 12:29 PM
Response to Reply #22
29. Yesss.... Mista Katta...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 12:25 PM
Response to Original message
23. We do, Condi. We do.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Marnieworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 12:25 PM
Response to Original message
24. I do!
Because that's exactly what happened. A defense would be, "That's ridiculous because after that meeting I did a, b, and c and the entire administration responded with x,y, and z actions." But no she defends herself by just saying the thought is ridiculous because we should trust she's better than that? Well I don't.

They went on VACATION. That is ignoring it. end of story.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 12:26 PM
Response to Original message
25. yes n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 12:26 PM
Response to Original message
26. YES
Then tell us what the fuck you did to stop 9/11?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 12:28 PM
Response to Original message
27. assertion that would hear about a specific attack and not do anything
*sigh*

No one is making that assertion, Condi you idiot. Again w/ this bullshit strawman about a "specific" attack, as if someone would walk into her office w/ flight numbers and exact dates.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 12:30 PM
Response to Original message
30. That Condi sure is quick on the up-take.
YES, moron- that is indeed what people think. And rightfully so.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 12:30 PM
Response to Original message
31. No Condi I don't think you would do nothing but
Edited on Thu Oct-12-06 12:47 PM by Botany
I am sure that bush 8/6/01 PDB, you 7/11/01 warning, Rummy & Ashcroft 7/?/01 warnings as per you
might do something as in:
bush to CIA briefer on 8/6/01 "You told me, you covered your ass now get out of here."
Ashcroft Quit flying commercial planes
Rice Told Mayor of San Fran Willie Brown, not to fly
Rummy 9/13/01 There are no good targets in Afghanistan ..... What about Iraq, Iraq, Iraq?
@ White House D o D meeting.

I want you in jail you scummy little shit.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 12:31 PM
Response to Original message
32. Does anyone really believe she'd tell the truth about it?
:shrug:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
thecrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 12:33 PM
Response to Original message
33. What y'all said above
:)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Pithy Cherub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 12:34 PM
Response to Original message
34. No doubt about it! Condi lies
to protect her husb....
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
hsher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 12:35 PM
Response to Original message
35. Why yes, Your Fucking Highness
And there, whaddaya know.
Yet another idea for tonight's Daily Show comic.
:think:

"That's two! Two ideas! (Cue lightning, roll of thunder) Ha, ha ha!"

www.yourmorningleibowitz.blogspot.com
The Daily Show as a comic strip
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 12:37 PM
Response to Original message
36. is that a rhetorical question? because if it's not, the answer is YES!
we believe! we believe! you've made believers out of us, condi!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
gully Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 12:39 PM
Response to Original message
37. Well if you supposedly can't remember getting one??????????????
YES!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 12:39 PM
Response to Original message
38. As it turns out: TO BELIEVE HER.....IS RIDICULOUS/ABSURD
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 12:40 PM
Response to Original message
39. !
:rofl:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 12:41 PM
Response to Original message
40. Yeah, but don't get upset. I'll bet you never missed anything really
important, like, say, a Ferragamo sale.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 12:50 PM
Response to Original message
41. YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!
You neocon lyin' twitch.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 12:51 PM
Response to Original message
42. YES!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
beyurslf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 12:52 PM
Response to Original message
43. Um, well, yeah, actually I do.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
GreenTea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 12:52 PM
Response to Original message
44. In a heartbeat, to further the Bush fascist cause! No question about it!
Edited on Thu Oct-12-06 12:54 PM by GreenTea
Bush was sinking like a rock before 9/11
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 12:53 PM
Response to Original message
45. Cut the feigned offense, Condi
That schtick was old when you gave it to Senator Boxer for calling you a liar.

You did ignore a terror warning and you are a liar.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
gulliver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 12:54 PM
Response to Original message
46. Is there a denial in there somewhere? I don't see it.
I see her asking a rhetorical question as a straw man, then answering it. But that doesn't deny the actual charge.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Dudley_DUright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 12:54 PM
Response to Original message
47. Me Me Me
:hi: :hi: :hi:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 12:56 PM
Response to Original message
48. Oh dear!
Is someone questioning her integrity again?

If she grew a nose like Pinnochio every time she lied, hers would reach coast to coast by now.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 12:56 PM
Response to Original message
49. What amazes me, is that dum dum Americans believe this liar.
There was a poll recently showing this.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 12:56 PM
Response to Original message
50. Yes Mrs Rice
proof is in the damn pudding
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 12:56 PM
Response to Original message
51. Yes.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 12:58 PM
Response to Original message
52. There you go with your "belief" again. Belief is not necessary, it's truth
n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
roamer65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 12:59 PM
Response to Original message
53. Yes. I do believe you would and did.
Edited on Thu Oct-12-06 12:59 PM by roamer65
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 01:05 PM
Response to Original message
54. Condi, you didn't answer the question.
and we all know what actually happened--You Did NOTHING!!!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 01:08 PM
Response to Original message
55. I love how the debate has been changed.
What a defensive statement coming from a total incompetent. :rofl: This sounds like a question Homer Simpson would rhetorically ask.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Fierce Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 01:09 PM
Response to Original message
56. I don't believe much outta you, honey, but I'd believe that.
nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 01:11 PM
Response to Original message
57. Yes, not once, not twice, but dozens of times!!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 01:14 PM
Response to Original message
58. we know you did
it's criminal
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Frustratedlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 01:15 PM
Response to Original message
59. Gee, according to Condi, Woodward lied about everything...
especially things that had to do with her.

Wake up, Condi. The honeymoon is over.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 01:17 PM
Response to Original message
61. I would! Me! Me! Me!
I did! I do!

You're a lying sack of shit, Rice. Why would I pretend you're anything else?

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 01:19 PM
Response to Original message
62. Ignore? No, refuse to act on, YES.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 01:19 PM
Response to Original message
63. well, the record seems to indicate that "yes, apparently you did"
Edited on Thu Oct-12-06 01:20 PM by WI_DEM
she is so used to the press slobbering all over her that it actually shocks her when something like this is reported.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
dave123williams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 01:20 PM
Response to Original message
64. Note that she calls it 'ridiculous' but not 'untrue'.

Non denial denial.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Nickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 01:20 PM
Response to Original message
65. Believe? No. I KNOW that you did! n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 01:22 PM
Response to Original message
66. If there were a shoe sale that day, yes!
We understand Condi, a National Security advisor must be well-dressed.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Liberal In Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 01:24 PM
Response to Original message
67. Witnesses say you did.
In a court of law, it would be enough to convict you.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 01:24 PM
Response to Original message
68. At the risk of "impugning" your reputation: YES!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 01:25 PM
Response to Original message
69. yes
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 01:27 PM
Response to Original message
70. Yes. Would, Did, and would again
if you saw any political gain from it, and if addressing the warning would take any of your precious time away from your politial work. x(
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 01:30 PM
Response to Original message
71. Yes
COndi is a pathological liar.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Az_lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 01:33 PM
Response to Original message
72. I do you incompetent $itch!!!!!!!!!!
:puke: :grr:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 01:34 PM
Response to Original message
73. yes , i do
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
No DUplicitous DUpe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 01:41 PM
Response to Original message
74. You got all the warnings, so in a word YES!

You are a liar, Condi, so your word is crap
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 01:41 PM
Response to Original message
75. .
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 01:43 PM
Response to Original message
76. if you have to ask.......
This country is burdened w/ incompetent office holders whose only demonstrated talent seems to be their ability to lie on a whim; displaying an expressionless face or a countenance of absolute determination; wide eyes; and then later deny evidence to the contrary.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 01:43 PM
Response to Original message
77. what everyone else said
does she have an one iota of credibility now?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 01:44 PM
Response to Original message
78. um...yeah
almost like a willful negligence---dare i say that it ALMOST looks like some key people in a position to prevent it sat in the background and allowed it to happen ON PURPOSE???

uh oh, i've said too much now!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 01:48 PM
Response to Original message
79. No, but downplay, yes
Obviously, your boss didn't think it was all that important. Perhaps you didn't stress the urgency enough with him?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 01:49 PM
Response to Original message
80. Stupid question Rice, actions speak for themselves
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
razors edge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 01:56 PM
Response to Original message
81. Let me think about that,
does a bear shit in the woods?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MNWild Donating Member (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 01:58 PM
Response to Original message
82. "I mean, it's just ridiculous," said Rice.
Do you mean like "No one ever anticipated that anyone would fly planes into buildings" ridiculous? In my mind there is very little difference between "Go brief Ashcroft and Rumsfeld" and "Go tell someone who gives a rats ass". Apparently some well connected people quit flying commercial aircraft, so a certain level of interest was generated. Unfortunately for the passengers on flight 93 and a couple of thousand people, you seem to have taken the "Adviser to the President" part of your title a lot more seriously than the "National Security" part. The FAA should have been on high alert.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 02:02 PM
Response to Original message
83. Liar
They didn't say "Oh, by the way". They demanded a meeting with her. They told her al Qaeda was going to attack, probably within the US. They told her it was a strategic warning. They warned her and she can lie all damned day. Even her bud Philip Zelikow, backs up Tenet and Black.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Control-Z Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 02:03 PM
Response to Original message
84. I do
I do, I do :hi:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 02:25 PM
Response to Original message
85. Saying 'ridiculous' is just rhetoric--WHAT DID SHE DO--she could spell out
what actions she affirmatively took--but that is NOT WHAT SHE IS DOING.

Instead, she is just attacking the messenger.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 02:31 PM
Response to Original message
86. Condasleezy bought shoes during Hurricane Katrina,
put her head up her ass before (and after) 9.11...

She would sell out her own mother for BeelzeBush!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
RevolutionStartsNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 03:00 PM
Response to Original message
87. From Her Lips to God's Ears
It's better when you hear it put to music, but think angry punk rock beat...

"From Her Lips To God's Ears (The Energizer)" -- by Against Me!

Regime change under a Bush doctrine of democratic installations.
Constant war for constant soldiers.
What are we gonna do now?
De-escalation, through military force.
Increase the pressure, Oh Condoleeza
What should we do about the situation in Iran and North Korea?

Condoleeza!

Democratic election under Marshall law.
An Iraqi president out of control of our choices.
After all this death and destruction
Do you really think your actions advocate freedom?
The president's giving a speech in Georgetown
To remember the voice of a slain civil rights leader,
Do you understand what the martyrs stood for?
Oh Condoleeza do you get the fucking joke?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mhatrw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 04:04 PM
Response to Original message
88. Yes.
What a classic non-denial "denial."
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 04:14 PM
Response to Original message
89. It's a fact. It's not a matter of belief.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 04:16 PM
Response to Original message
90. Yep we believe it Condi
We sure believe your lie
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ElboRuum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 04:35 PM
Response to Original message
91. Um... Yes. Yes I would... n/t.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 04:37 PM
Response to Original message
92. She has told WAY too many lies to still think she deserves
any kind of benefit of doubt or respect just because of who she is and the position she holds
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 04:57 PM
Response to Original message
93. umm, Yeah.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 04:58 PM
Response to Original message
94. Oh Condi, we all know who you still really work for...


Exxon and companies.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 05:06 PM
Response to Original message
95. Yes and you will rot in Hell for it.
nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
guinivere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 05:10 PM
Response to Original message
96. Of course I believe that. It would be ridiculous not to.
I don't think terror attack info would be an 'oh by the way' type scenario.

Good grief. Wretched Ferragamo wearing, lying sack o'poop, poor excuse for a Secy of State.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 05:29 PM
Response to Original message
97. Condi, if you *did* know, you didn't do anything. And if you didn't know..
obviously, you blew it. Face it -- either way, you're screwed! :bounce: :rofl:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Gwerlain Donating Member (516 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 05:33 PM
Response to Original message
98. Oh, HELL YEAH. No question in my mind. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 05:45 PM
Response to Original message
99. It's a matter of FACT, not "belief"

Facts are not "faith-based", Condi.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 07:02 PM
Response to Original message
100. Does anyone really believe I'd go shoe shopping
and yuk it up at Spamalot while a major US city was being destroyed and people of all ages, from infants to the aged, were drowning or dying from lack of food and water? Obviously no one could possibly be that callous!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 07:11 PM
Response to Original message
101. No shit, Condi
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 08:35 PM
Response to Original message
102. You've got to be kidding, right? Here's one for you:
Edited on Thu Oct-12-06 08:37 PM by Raster
An Open Letter to Condoleezza Rice
Re: 9-11 investigation and Commission testimony ... You knew. You kept silent. They died.


by Catherine Austin Fitts
Former Assistant Secretary of Housing, Bush I


Hon. Condoleezza Rice
National Security Advisor
The White House
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW
Washington, DC 20500

April 9, 2004

Dear Ms. Rice:

I am writing to communicate four points regarding your testimony yesterday under oath before the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States.

Point #1: You are a liar.

Attorney General Ashcroft sits on the National Security Council. Warned by his FBI security detail, the head of law enforcement for the United States knew to avoid commercial airlines on September 11, 2001.

It was your job as National Security Advisor to make sure that the people who flew on American Airlines Flight 11, United Airlines Flight 175, United Airlines Flight 93 and American Airlines Flight 77 had the benefit of the same warnings as those they paid to protect us.

You knew. You kept silent. They died.

You had numerous warnings of the risks of 9-11 – sufficient to let the American people know and use their best judgment as to how to protect themselves from a possible attack. It was your job as National Security Advisor to make sure that the people in the South Tower of the World Trade Center had the knowledge they needed to evacuate their building upon seeing the North Tower hit by a plane.

You knew. You kept silent. They died.

Point #2: Your motives are transparent.


The World Trade Center is in the heart of New York City – one of the great financial capitals of the world. The Pentagon is in the heart of Washington -- the appropriation and accounting capital for the US federal budget and credit and the US Treasury – the largest issuer of securities in the world.

Unlike many other terrorist attacks, these attacks killed people whose family, friends and neighbors understand how these financial systems work. Victim families, friends and the residents of the communities directly harmed can calculate who made money on 9-11 profiteering. They can trace the flow of money into the 2004 Presidential campaign coffers from the profits your supporters made as a result of 9-11 profiteering. They can calculate how 9-11 profiteering connects to the financing and silence of corporate media.

Those personally impacted and the global researchers they network with have the intellectual power and personal courage to ask and answer, “Cui Bono?” (Who Benefits?) They understand that your success as National Security Advisor is as a direct result of your failure to stop 9-11. They can see how your lies about 9-11 made money for the investment syndicate that put you in power and for the buyers of US Treasury securities who are so richly paid to finance the US military, intelligence and enforcement apparatus and the defense contractors and oil interests it serves.

All the campaign ads in the world can not now convince the American people that you have their best interests at heart.

Point #3: You are going down.

The richest and most powerful people in the world pay for performance. They pay you to make the US governmental apparatus look legitimate while they use it to centralize economic and political power. That means they need liars who are better at lying than you.

The myth that you had no idea that Americans deserved to be warned about the risks of flying or planes being used as weapons is now in the dust heap with the notion that the United States attacked Iraq and our soldiers are dying to protect us from Iraqi weapons of mass destruction.

Your lies of 9-11 – like your lies about the Iraqi war – have been profitable for the military-banking complex you represent. These lies, however, have not misled the crowd. The American people and global citizens are looking for the truth. We demand the changes that will give meaning and honor to those who died on 9-11 and in the ensuing wars. We demand an end to further bloodshed. We demand a refund of all that you and your backers have stolen from those of us who remain alive.

Point #4: You are guilty of criminal gross negligence.

If you want to catch a terrorist today, you need look no further than your own mirror.


Many Americans gather this weekend to give thanks that Jesus died for our sins and gave us the covenant of grace. In the spirit of our Lord's crucifixion and resurrection, may God have mercy on your soul.


Sincerely Yours,

Catherine Austin Fitts
Former Assistant Secretary of Housing, Bush I
President
Solari, Inc.
PO Box 157
Hickory Valley, TN 38042
731.764.2515
catherine@solari.com



Letter Submitted:

White House Webmail: https://sawho14.eop.gov/PERSdata/intro.htm
E-mail cc to:
President George W. Bush: president@whitehouse.gov ;
Vice President Richard Cheney: vice.president@whitehouse.gov ;
The White House
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW
Washington, DC 20500
Comments: 202-456-1111
Tel: 202-456-1414

National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States
301 7th Street, SW
Room 5125
Washington, DC 20407
(202) 331-4060
info@9-11Commission.gov

Background Articles:

Ashcroft Flying High
CBS News
Washington DC, July 26, 2001
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2001/07/26/national/main...

A Historical Whitewash?
by Kelly Patricia O'Meara
Insight Magazine, November 24, 2003
http://www.insightmag.com/news/565658.html

If the World Was Talking, Why Didn't We Listen?
by Kelly Patricia O'Meara
Insight Magazine, November 24, 2003
http://www.insightmag.com/main.cfm?include=detail&story...

9-11 Profiteering
by Catherine Austin Fitts
Scoop Media, March 22, 2004
http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0403/S00244.htm

A Letter to the Editor of the Wall Street Journal
by Catherine Austin Fitts
Scoop Media, October 6, 2003
http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0310/S00038.htm

Where is the Money?
http://www.whereisthemoney.org
------------
:kick:17!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
gumby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 08:49 PM
Response to Original message
103. Don't call you 'Kindasleazyliar' for nothing.
.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
andlor Donating Member (300 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 08:52 PM
Response to Original message
104. I do !!!!!!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 08:55 PM
Response to Original message
105. Yes, I do believe it Ms Rice.
I believe that you also went on an Imelda Marcos like shoe shopping spree while New Orleans was being drowned. Like everyone else in this administration, you're more interested in power than you are in serving the interests of the American people. You are also a compulsive and pathological liar.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
gristy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 09:06 PM
Response to Original message
106. Yes,
I do believe you would ignore a terror warning.

Any more questions?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
dooner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 09:31 PM
Response to Original message
107. Wasn't there a shoe sale that day? n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 09:32 PM
Response to Original message
108. Yes.
And you did.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 09:34 PM
Response to Original message
109. You DID ignore one, dumbass. nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 09:34 PM
Response to Original message
110. It IS ridiculous , and why did you ignore the warnings Condi
Why won't you deny it ? Of course it's ridulous , but it IS
the Fact of the Matter.

I wish these reporters would follow-up these non-denials x(
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 09:36 PM
Response to Original message
111. Yes, and I think you did it with intent and purpose. Clear enough?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 09:49 PM
Response to Original message
112.  Here's the quote
"But both men came away from the meeting feeling that Ms. Rice had not taken the warnings seriously."

This doesn't mean she IGNORED them. She just didn't know what to do with the info once they gave it to her. As I recall they had no specifics other than something big was going to happen somewhere soon. I remember being angry about this info when I first heard it but then eased off a bit as we didn't know how, when or where the attack(s) was going to take place or even on which continent. Richard Clarke would have done something if he had known specifics, I think.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 09:54 PM
Response to Reply #112
115. Bullshite! She was told in that meeting that airliner hijackings
were probably the most likely scenario and there had been several earlier warning, even all the way back to Yamsey Yusef, about flying airplanes into buildings. I'm sure Clarke would not have left this possibility out.

There is NO defense for her. She's just as responsible as Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld for every single life lost relevant to that meeting. That includes the 655,000 Iraqis as well as the 3000 people who died on 9/11.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 09:50 PM
Response to Original message
113. Rice, A Sell-Out, A Traitor!!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Festivito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 07:41 AM
Response to Original message
116. Why else would that question be answered rhetorically?
Testing the waters? See if a non-answer will fly before having to outright lie, which in your mind would be to protect national security anyway?

It's rediculous? It's rediculous alright. But to what did your it refer, the original question, or that a liar had to answer such a question in the first place?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
kiki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 07:49 AM
Response to Original message
117. Jesus. This is what they're reduced to.
It's like a murderer in court whose entire defence is: "Hey, would I do something like that? C'maaan! Sure, I had the victim's blood on my clothes and the murder weapon in my house, and eight people saw me do it, but look at this face! Ain't I adorable? Ask my sweet, grey-haired old mom. She'll tell ya - I wouldn't hurt a fly."
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 08:11 AM
Response to Original message
118. (Nods head vigorously) YES
Exhibit #1 - Condi did NOTHING after the warnings.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Dora Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 09:45 AM
Response to Original message
119. Classic misdirection: Answer a question with another question.
Keep up the pressure. She's going to crack.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
CelticWinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 10:52 AM
Response to Original message
120. All I have to say is
Helllllllllllll yessssssssssss.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 10:55 AM
Response to Original message
121. absolutely I believe it
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Liberal_Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 10:57 AM
Response to Original message
122. You're Damned Right I Do!!!
eom

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 10:58 AM
Response to Original message
123. No
Well, actually YES!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 11:00 AM
Response to Original message
124. No Condi! I Don't Believe You Ignored It!
I believe you didn't understand it, you idiot!
The Professor
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
tinfoilinfor2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 11:01 AM
Response to Original message
125. Just about everyone,
Miss Ostrich.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Brazenly Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 01:38 PM
Response to Original message
126. Was there a shoe sale at the time?
Cuz we know that's enough to distract you when people are actually in the process of dying, so why wouldn't it distract you when the deaths are yet to come?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Tue Sep 16th 2014, 04:25 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (01/01/06 through 01/22/2007) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC