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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 10:33 AM
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Poll question: How Comfortable are you with Mike Roger's Program of outing
Gay Republicans?

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com

Sorry, polls are turned off at Level 3.

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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 10:37 AM
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1. Frank Rule applies to all Republics in office. nt.
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WillParkinson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 10:38 AM
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2. My friend Jim is a Gay Republican
He bases his choices, as did his family, more on economics than his lifestyle choice. He supports, though quietly, gay organizations. His lifestyle is not the business of anyone else for any reason and I'm disgusted by outing people just for the sake of screaming, "OOH, LOOK! Gay Republican!"

Am I saying it's never justified? No. If Jerry Falwell had a gay secret hidden in his closet I would have little problem outing the man who is responsible for so much hatred and bigotry.

But I don't think it's right to out someone just because.
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 10:44 AM
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4. Is your friend a self-declared guardian of public morality?
Is he using his power as a legislator to supress equal rights? Is he a total closet case and extremely vulnerable to blackmail and manipulation that could end up making one or two megacorporations slightly richer at the expense of millions of hard-working Americans?

I bet not, and that makes a world of difference. Apples and red herrings, my friend.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 11:02 AM
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14. yep--just as I wouldn't care about someone's ethnic background unless
they made their stripes through racism. If most politicians had a Jewish grandmother, that would be at best a colorful bit of personal history. If Hitler had a Jewish grandmother, that would have been appropriate to bring into the public discussion before he squashed all discussion.
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 10:48 AM
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9. I chose to interpret the question
as applying to officials, not ordinary citizens, and not the local dog catcher either. Congress critters, governors, state legislators, you know, the folks that run the gay bashing legislation and initiatives every year, the folks trying to write gays out equal protection under the law through constitutional amendments, those people? They do not get a pass.
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kerry-is-my-prez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 10:40 AM
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3. If they've been going around talking about how "evil" gays are, it's ok
and actively doing things against gay men and women. Otherwise, probably not.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 10:46 AM
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7. What if they are just standing someone
who talks about how "evil" gays are?
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 10:45 AM
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5. Being gay isn't a dirty secret.
Treat gay public figures same as straight - talk openly and freely about them, including their relationships.
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mary195149 Donating Member (231 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 10:46 AM
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6. I thought he was only outing hypocrits who are gay Republican.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 10:48 AM
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8. Irony
The only reason gays are in the closet is because of republicans, conservatives and christians who spend their entire life hating other humans.

Fuck the haters, step out of the closet, take your constitutional liberties, insist on equal protection under the law or start chucking the tea in the harbor.

If you can't marry and can't join the military then why CAN you pay taxes? Fuck that. Veterans didn't serve and die so some religiously insane yahoos with hearts full of hate could deny you of constitutional freedoms.

This to out or not to out is just more hate brought to our country by "christians."
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 10:50 AM
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10. As long as there are closets...
Gays will be imprisoned in them.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 10:55 AM
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11. That would be an argument for outing all gays
regardless of political affiliation.

Unless I am misreading you.

Bryant
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 10:58 AM
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12. Yes.
Absolutely. In my opinion, gays cannot demand equality at the same time they defend closets.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 11:02 AM
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13. That is a conondrum - but perhaps
the people demanding closets are not the same people demanding equality.

At any rate i could agree that it is better for gays to get out of the closet, but i am not sure about outing them. Taking that decision out of their hands. It's similar to smoking - i feel strongly that people who smoke should stop and that nobody should start smoking. But at the end of the day, I don't think I have the right to make the choice for someone else.

Bryant
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Mend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 11:17 AM
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15. I would only out gay repugs....I would protect all other gays in
or out of the closet. I would out every single gay repuke. This is necessary to save our democracy. Millions of fundies vote for the anti-gay party...they need to be educated that there are gays everywhere, esp. in the hypocritical repug party.
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