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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 06:51 AM
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MSM quiet on identity of Lidle's 'Flying instructor".
Not to disparage the dead, I'm sorry for for all those affected by this accident, but finding the lack of disclosure on Lidle's "flight instructor" odd, considering the blanket local and national media coverage of the accident. Even on "The Today Show", Viera said "we have no information on the identity or gender of the flight instructor at this time". Hmmmm.

The family, once notified, may prefer that the name be witheld, but even so, the media would provide a general description (i.e.; "male/female, late-thirties". And, if that's the case, the media would say, the family has requested the name of the victim be withheld.

Ok, so, what do we know? Don't remember the network, but saw a very upset witness interviewed citing a "dead man and dead woman" at the scene. Lidle did not file a flight plan, which is procedure. Mayor Bloonberg identified the victims yesterday as a "Flight instructor and student". Presumably, the Mayor knows something about the victims, but isn't telling bupkis.

Why does this matter? I suppose it doesn't. Other than to show that the MSM is quite selective in terms of those whose privacy and reputation they respect. Sports stars- good. Democratic politicans- bad. My personal view: everybody should be treated alike, famous or not. I don't care who has affairs or gets blown by a consenting adult in the WH. None of my business. (Of course, sex crimes like pedophilia are the nation's business).



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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 06:57 AM
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1. Maybe the flight instructor is Natalie Holloway? n/t
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 06:58 AM
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3. Or the Flyaway Bride? /nt
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 06:58 AM
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2. Someone should call Teterboro Airport
and simply ask. They would know.

It might be that the person's next-of-kin has not yet been located. This is a common practice in the news business -- because it's pretty horrible to turn on the TV or open a newspaper and find out one of your loved ones has died.
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Drifter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 07:45 AM
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13. Except his Dad found out ...
while everything was unfolding on TV. That explanation does not hold water.

Cheers
Drifter
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 06:58 AM
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4. Come on people. Maybe they are having problems identifying the body
Edited on Thu Oct-12-06 07:00 AM by xultar
or notifying the family. Wouldn't you hate to find out a family member died on the news?

Maybe he wasn't with an instructor and flying around with his girlfriend or boyfriend. They still need to identify the body and notify the family.

No conspiracy here. Just a sad accident with may be a juicy twist. Who cares....it's sad but let's get back to Ira1, North Korea and the fact that Bush sucks big sweaty donkey balls.
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Joe_VB Donating Member (336 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 07:07 AM
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6. would that be "big sweaty democratic donkey balls"?
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 07:16 AM
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9. The biggest monstersized most drippy sweaty democratic donkey balls
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Joe_VB Donating Member (336 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 07:42 AM
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12. HaHaHaHaHa.........
Now that's a daisey.....
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 07:03 AM
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5. Newsday makes a tentative identification
Yanks' Lidle dies in small plane crash in NYC

.....

Police sources said the California flight instructor who was killed was believed to be Tyler Stanger.

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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 07:16 AM
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8. Here he is
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 07:22 AM
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10. Here's more on Tyler Stanger
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 07:54 AM
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15. glad to be wrong about my 'suspicion'
and so sorry for the poor young man and his family.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 07:13 AM
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7. Still Amazing More Didn't Die
Last April I was near 72nd & Central Park..and, as any visitor to New York will attest, there's no city where so many people are out on the streets than on Manhattan. Everywhere there are street vendors and hundreds of people coming and going. Fortunately, the crash was on the river side.

Give the FAA and others a few days to digest what happened here. I give Bloomberg some slack here cause Lidle's identity wasn't clear when he held his press conference...seems like the corporate media couldn't even determine what type of craft crashed into the building...MSNBC was reporting it was a helicopter...and with dozens of small heliports and airports, it took several hours to identify just the identity of the craft.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 07:28 AM
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11. When you get down by the river
the streets are usually a lot emptier. There's a big difference in level of activity at 72nd & 5th, compared to a side street near the river.

Still amazing no one else got hurt. I hate to be the person whose apartment was in flames. You know you're having a bad day when you wake up and your apartment is on national TV.

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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 07:49 AM
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14. Something Similar Happened In Chicago
When I first heard the report, I thought it might have been a helicopter going to Sloane-Kettering, but thank goodness that scenario wasn't the case.

Chicago used to have a lakefront airport for small planes and on several occasions pilots (mostly novice, always in bad weather) would either crash into the Lake or on occasion into a building. A friend of mine lived in a high rise along the Lake and one day he was jarred by a big thud...a Piper Cub had slammed into the 40-story building across the way from him, similar to what happened yesterday. In that case, I think it killed the pilot & intructor plus an old woman who had been sleeping in her apartment.

These building have been constructed for such an eventuality and kudos to the FDNY for how well they responded...I saw someone on the floor above the flames in short order and looks like the damage was localized and not a threat to the structure.

The issue here will be why someone with such limited experience was allowed to fly over such a populated area. I don't think all small craft traffic over Manhattan or any major city should be eliminated, but just like you wouldn't trust your teenager to drive in Mid-town traffic, flying over it should be restricted to pilots with a higher-grade license.
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beyurslf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 08:19 AM
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16. I think they are selective in that famous people don't get the privacy
that is automatically afforded to an ordinary citizen. There is a presumption that famous people are in the public eye and lose some of that claim to privacy. I really don't see a problem with it either.
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