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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 03:14 PM
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Do these "officials" claiming "no indication of terrorism"
Edited on Wed Oct-11-06 03:23 PM by dmesg
have some sort of magic telepathic abilities? Are they privy to information they aren't telling us that makes this appear not to be terrorism? What possible justification is there for concluding anything as strong as that so early?

EDIT because people are missing my point:

I'm not saying this was terrorism or an accident. I'm saying barring some evidence that's not being disclosed it's ridiculously soon to rule either one out, isn't it?

What about this crash makes those of you who are already ruling out terrorism rule it out?
What about this crash makes those of you who are already ruling out an accident rule it out?
What about this crash makes those of you who are already ruling out suicide or crime rule those out?

As far as I can see, there is "no indication" of any of those, right, since we still have no idea why the plane crashed.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 03:15 PM
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1. Doesn't have to be "terrorism" to be an asshole's suicide.
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Bluzmann57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 03:16 PM
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2. The FBI said they don't think it was terrorism
You have to trust someone and the FBI is the elite law enforcement agency in this country.
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 03:19 PM
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5. I trust arguments, not people
If they have a reason to say, this early on, that they think it wasn't terrorism, what is it? Do they not want to tell us? As far as I've seen, the facts are:

A small plane crashed into a building in New York City

If that's really the available facts, saying it is or isn't terrorism without more to go on seems dangerously premature.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 03:18 PM
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3. Terrorist attack in NYC done in a similar manner as 9/11 is
NOT GOOD FOR BUSH or the GOP! Afterall, they claim to have kept us "safe". This incident proves otherwise......whether it was a terrorist attack or no.......cause it means they still don't know what is going on in our airspace.

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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 03:18 PM
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4. Of course it was an accident.
This is getting ridiculous. DU is starting to look like a lunatic asylum.
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 03:20 PM
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7. Why "of course"
OK, what information are you privy to that makes you conclude that? Seriously, what ever happened to not making rash statements about a crime/accident scene before proper investigative techniques are applied?
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 04:20 PM
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14. That's what happens when..
you have a lunatic, lying ass president and admin...No one will trust anything he says or anyone who works for him. They always have to fix the facts to benefit them in some way. I'm sorry, anytime something happens which involves this country or national security and these people are in charge my radar goes up. Plus the fact that, they are desperate and close to the election, everytime you let your guard down with these people you find that they are lying,stealing, or cheating in some way.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 03:19 PM
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6. Doesn't no indication of terrorism mean exactly what it says?
They don't have any evidence of terrorism - yet? This just happened, presumably they haven't concluded their investigation of a plane crash that happend an hour and a half ago (4:15 PM, 10/11).

I don't understand your objection.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 03:21 PM
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8. OK, then there's also no indication it was an accident, right?
If you'll say both of those I don't mind.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 03:24 PM
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9. Well the default is that it was an accident
I mean if a plane crashes into a building you have to assume something went wrong.

Bryant
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 03:27 PM
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10. I think that it was an accident was obvious from the get-go. Since
when is it a great strategy to hit an apartment building? With a small plane? Please.
Next thing there will be roadblocks after a car crash somewhere in Manhattan.
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 03:30 PM
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11. There are more accidental shootings in the US than firearm murders...
...but you still don't rule out murder when you see somebody shot, right?

And I'm not sure how terrorists think so I don't know if one would want to hit an apartment building (it could be a set-up for something bigger, for all I know). Or he could have missed. Or he wanted to kill himself, or kill somebody in the building. I don't know. I don't like jumping to conclusions this early on.
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Bluzmann57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 04:09 PM
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12. Was Cory Lidle a terrorist?
Probably not. He was a major league pitcher and now he's dead. So it seems that he just wasn't a real good pilot.
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 04:12 PM
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13. Which is why I would hope the FBI would *wait* until we knew that
before saying, "This wasn't terrorism".

If you have to inform the next of kin first, just say "we are investigating".

People aren't children; we won't freak out if you refuse to rule out anything too early.
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