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Ned_Devine Donating Member (996 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 08:21 PM
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Was the NK nuke test Rove's Oct. surprise?
Probably not what he had in mind, but watch them spin it in their favor. Ignorant Americans hate facts and love slogans and blaming others. Just watch...
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 08:22 PM
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1. It makes Bush look weak. This happened on his watch.
Clinton was able to keep NK calm.
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mn9driver Donating Member (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 08:28 PM
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3. But it will give him cover to act strong
in that chimp-like way that we've become so familiar with. If GOP numbers don't show a bounce in the next poll cycle, we can expect a few bombs to be dropped on the evildoers. His base will eat it up. Hopefully the rest of the country is done buying it.
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Lilith Velkor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 08:24 PM
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2. Ignorant Americans think Karl Rove controls the planet
...and post bollocks about October surprises. Ugh. :eyes: :thumbsdown:
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Ned_Devine Donating Member (996 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 08:29 PM
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5. what kills me...
is when they go to John f**king Bolton for commentary as if he is a legitimate UN rep. I think before any newscaster palys his sound byte, they should refer to him as the "recess appointed UN ambassador John Bolton"
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baldingrockwarlord2 Donating Member (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 08:30 PM
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6. I have to agree...
I mean, sure, noone can take away the talent that bastard Rove has brought to this Cabal, but he is not responsible for the sun rising and falling and everything else. It gets old after a while. How could anybody possibly think Rove had any influence in a NK nuke test? Where do people get this stuff, and can I smoke some, please? It must be awesome stuff.
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Ned_Devine Donating Member (996 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 08:34 PM
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9. I wasn't saying the test was Rove's plan...
All I was saying is that he'll use this as their October surprise to claim that the GOP are the only ones to keep us safe now...or worse yet, use it as a way to shut down the government due to nuclear crisis and abort the midterms
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Swede Atlanta Donating Member (906 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 08:29 PM
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4. Dems need to use this fact in their favor
The Republicans will try to claim this demonstrates the need for a strong defense and that the only party that can protect Americans from Korean nuclear capability (at this point lobbing nuclear Kim Chee) is to vote for them.

The dems MUST point out that under Clinton the Korean nuclear arms program was stabilized. I watched an interview tonight with one of Clinton's negotiators with North Korea and she made clear that had this happened on a Democrat's watch, the approach would have been much tougher.

But Bush's foreign policy is a failure. His "cowboy from Texas" attitude has been a disaster. He took his eye off the ball with failing to capture Bin Laden with his ill-fated foray into Iraq. His approach to North Korea as part of the Axis of Evil was similarly misplaced. North Korea is hard pressed. They are a regime on the brink of collapse. Their people are starving. Rather than enter into direct negotiations, as Clinton did, they ignored them. The regime in PyongYang is desparate. Desparate people will do desparate things. This whole thing could have been avoided or at least slowed if Washington had passed the first grade.
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Ned_Devine Donating Member (996 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 10:14 PM
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11. I think they can, if they can just be heard
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Seen the light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 08:30 PM
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7. Definitely, everyone knows that Karl Rove runs North Korea
:sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm:
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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 08:34 PM
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8. FAILURE, FAILURE, FAILURE, your name is Bush . . .
Even his base is debased.

He can't "just drop a few bombs" to get them back, because Kim Jong Il is crazy enough -- and the Pentagon knows it (and Cheney and Rumsfeld) -- to annihilate Seoul immediately thereafter (with conventional weapons, already sited in) and then invade with his threadbare but million-plus-strong army.

It would be a disaster beyond any already laid at Bush's door, and the adults in charge won't let him do it.
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nevergiveup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 09:33 PM
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10. I agree with you
Chimpy has few options on this one. In two weeks everyone will be talking about Iraq again or possibly another new Republican scandal. The only thing Chimpy and his party have going for them is lots and lots of cash and this should not be taken lightly.
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