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pnorman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 04:26 PM
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"The Clinton Legacy: North Korea's Bomb"
Perhaps as as a waggish prank by a friend, my name somehow got placed on that NewsMax email list. The above is the headline from today's issue. Here's what follows:

North Korea's first detonation of a nuclear weapon may have taken place during the watch of George W. Bush but it was under the Clinton administration's watch that the communist regime began gathering necessary materials and constructing the bomb.

As Western powers race to confirm that North Korea did in fact explode a nuclear device in Gilju, a remote region in the Hamgyong province, some see it as a culmination of weak U.S. action during the 1990s that led to this fateful day.

Fateful Beginnings

After entering into an agreement with the United States in 1994, the Clinton administration ignored evidence the North Koreans were violating the agreement and continuing to build a nuclear weapon. "In July of 2002, documentary evidence was found in the form of purchase orders for the materials necessary to enrich uranium," NewsMax's James Hirsen previously reported.
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http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2006/10/9/1321...

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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 04:27 PM
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1. They might as well blame it on Truman.
They probably will get around to it. It's everyone's fault but Bush's.
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 04:38 PM
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9. No it's Einstein's fault - a furrener and a jew nt
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lvx35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 04:45 PM
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13. A socialist and a pacifist too!
I'm surprised they haven't started blaming him already! (of course he was an activist in trying to keep the bomb from being built, but truth can't stop 'em)
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 04:41 PM
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12. Why don't they mention when it all really started, huh?
It was George Washington that started all this crap in the first place.
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nickinSTL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 04:29 PM
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2. right...
not like it's Bush's fault for IGNORING North Korea for 6 years :eyes:
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 04:29 PM
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3. "SOME see it as a culmination of weak U.S. action..."
God I hate phrases like that. How come Democrats don't use them more often?

"Some say all Republican politicians are nothing but rapacious greedheads with hearts full of hate who vomit a thick black bile that scientists have identified as 'pure evil'. Now, I wouldn't say that. But some say."
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Wilber_Stool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 07:06 PM
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16. It was me.
I say it all the time.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 04:30 PM
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4. So what has Bush been doing
for nearly the past 6 years? Yammering on about NK being in the Axis of Evil sure wasn't much of a deterent. Probably made them speed up their nuke program.

No, no responsibility for Bush. BushCo changed the Clinton policy from day one opf his administration, so why hasn't that worked?

Mz Pip
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 04:33 PM
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5. I hope to see a lot more ANGRY BILL on the news soon
Bill Clinton better get used to the idea that he's going to have to name names and kick asses or else this shit will be blamed on him. He did infinitely more to stop it than the ineffectual blustering of Bushler, of course, but unless he defends himself and points out who's been President the last 6 years and how Bush took a working containment program and replaced it with NOTHING (nothing but provocations to North Korea) it's going to be every Republican's talking point that this is Clinton's fault.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 04:35 PM
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6. Blah blah blah Clenis blah blah Hitlery blah blah.
I can smell the desperation from my keyboard. :rofl:

911 = Bush
NK bomb go boom = Bush

So many others, but it is easier to blame the Clenis for weather pattens. :eyes: :eyes: :eyes:
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 04:36 PM
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7. READ THIS: The UK Guardian
RUMSFELD PASSING THE BUCK? DOES ANYONE KNOW MORE ABOUT PARAGRAPH # 3?

The two faces of Rumsfeld

2000: director of a company which wins $200m contract to sell nuclear reactors to North Korea
2002: declares North Korea a terrorist state, part of the axis of evil and a target for regime change

Randeep Ramesh
Friday May 9, 2003
The Guardian

Donald Rumsfeld, the US defence secretary, sat on the board of a company which three years ago sold two light water nuclear reactors to North Korea - a country he now regards as part of the "axis of evil" and which has been targeted for regime change by Washington because of its efforts to build nuclear weapons.

Mr Rumsfeld was a non-executive director of ABB, a European engineering giant based in Zurich, when it won a $200m (125m) contract to provide the design and key components for the reactors. The current defence secretary sat on the board from 1990 to 2001, earning $190,000 a year. He left to join the Bush administration.

The reactor deal was part of President Bill Clinton's policy of persuading the North Korean regime to positively engage with the west.
The sale of the nuclear technology was a high-profile contract. ABB's then chief executive, Goran Lindahl, visited North Korea in November 1999 to announce ABB's "wide-ranging, long-term cooperation agreement" with the communist government.

The company also opened an office in the country's capital, Pyongyang, and the deal was signed a year later in 2000. Despite this, Mr Rumsfeld's office said that the de fence secretary did not "recall it being brought before the board at any time".

http://www.guardian.co.uk/korea/article/0,2763,952289,0...
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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 05:03 PM
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14. ABB failed to perform its obligations in a timely manner
That's what started the whole the breach of the Agreed Framework. I don't remember/I'm not aware are what Rumsfeld says when he's been up to no good.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 07:08 PM
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17. And if you get time, this too please?
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 04:37 PM
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8. It's all Edward Teller's fault.
yep
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Maine-ah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 04:41 PM
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10. oh, jesus fucking christ.
you have got to be kidding me.

I read somewhere on here today that NK obtained 80% of it's nuk-u-lar materials during shrub's squatting.
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texasleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 04:41 PM
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11. Kim Jong il (D)
Edited on Mon Oct-09-06 04:41 PM by texasleo
:rofl:
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sarge43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 05:34 PM
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15. Hey, as long as we're playing the blame game
let's go the source: Pakudha Katyayana, Indian philosopher, 6th century BCE, formulated an atomic construct to the material world. :eyes:
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