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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 04:08 PM
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Bush will still be able to classify documents even AFTER his term is over
Executive Order 13233, which restricts access to the records of former United States Presidents, was drafted by then White House counsel (now the US Attorney General) Alberto R. Gonzales, and issued by President George W. Bush on November 1, 2001, shortly after the September 11, 2001 attacks. The Bush administration issued the order just as the National Archives was preparing to release a small portion of Presidential records from the Ronald Reagan administration, some of which might prove embarrassing to the President's father, George H. W. Bush, due to his involvement in the Iran-Contra Affair. Section 13 of Executive Order 13233 revoked Executive Order 12667, of January 18, 1989.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_13233

Just thought you'd all like to know that.
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 04:09 PM
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1. Could a future (Dem) president reverse that executive order? n/t
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 04:10 PM
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3. Of course, why not?
With a Dem 'Unitary Executive', there's all sorts of things we can do....

:evilgrin:

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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 04:10 PM
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4. I say yes - and if Bush screams about it, then that Dem president should
Edited on Mon Oct-09-06 04:11 PM by blm
take it to the people and put it up for a vote - do they want OPEN GOVERNMENT or a CLOSED GOVERNMENT?

This is why I support Anti-corruption, open government Democrats.
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 04:10 PM
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5. of course
put president frist will leave in in place, and noelle bush won't change course in 2016, either.
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kurth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 04:29 PM
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7. A Dem president will have every power the chimp has
It'll take a long time to cancel all the shitty decrees and secret executive orders on file in the White House basement.
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 04:10 PM
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2. True ONLY if our Dem 2008 President does not change it
and I will bet Clinton will ask him to :)
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madame defarge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 04:18 PM
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6. So was this the motive for Papa Bush to get Shrub elected...
The Bush administration issued the order just as the National Archives was preparing to release a small portion of Presidential records from the Ronald Reagan administration, some of which might prove embarrassing to the President's father, George H. W. Bush, due to his involvement in the Iran-Contra Affair. Section 13 of Executive Order 13233 revoked Executive Order 12667, of January 18, 1989.


I've always felt that Papa was much guiltier than he made out in the Iran-Contra deal. Wouldn't surprise me if he was Reagan's Cheney.

Well, let's make sure that the current Bush in office is the last Bush in office.
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nealmhughes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 04:32 PM
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8. Got news for the Bushites: these papers are the property of the United
States. Congress obviously trumps any executive order, and a new one can undo an older one. Make it a law and make noncompliance a felony.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 04:56 PM
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9. Here's what I don't understand:
this idea that there will be an 'after his term is over.' Won't he just issue signing statements about Article 2, Section 1 and the 22nd Amendment? ;-)
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