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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 10:56 AM
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Abramoff knew about war on Iraq a year before it happened
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 10:58 AM
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1. Maybe he was lurking at DU...
We all knew about it too!
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 10:59 AM
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2. The evidence and the truth has always been there.....
I have a bigger question....

Wouldn't this information be considered top secret....why would Abramof have access to this information .....this is a huge security leak....the Dems and the Prosecutor should be going after who leaked the information...
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 10:59 AM
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3. "this guy Zinni" is Gen. Zinni?
:wow:
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 10:59 AM
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4. Arabfat?
Whot an asshole.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 03:03 PM
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6. real professional ain't it?
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 04:30 PM
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10. Racist. It's what Republicans do.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 11:05 AM
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5. Exactly, Bush started pushing for it after 9/11 and particularly SOTU 2002
the "axis of evil" speech. It wasn't that hard to predict, although Bush was claiming that he hadn't decided in Feb. 2003. CBS started running daily "countdown to war" pieces every night after the Senate vote in October 2002.
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 03:04 PM
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7. So Did I
wow, I have something in common with that slime Abramoff.
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young_at_heart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 04:08 PM
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8. When WAS the real date of Iraq planning?
Sometime before 2000?
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 04:35 PM
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11. sometime between 1992-1999 (the Clinton years)
you don't think that the Bush-boyz just sat on their asses in Texas for 8 years?

They were busily plotting away for their triumphant return with the "proxy-prez"..

GHWB gets DAILY CIA briefings.. always has..

It was no accident that Clinton was marginalized from the get-go.. They had a vested interest in having him be less-than-totally-effective, so they could swoop in the GHWB, the sequel and get their war on..

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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 04:29 PM
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9. Abramoff traded the lives of "the troops" for cash:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

He is a war criminal and a murderer, just like Chimpy.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 04:43 PM
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12. And Bandar was told BEFORE Powell!
Bandar Briefed Before Powell

Bandar learned of the attack plans on Jan. 11, 2003, two days before U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell was told of the decision, according to Woodward.

In a meeting on Jan. 11 with Cheney, Rumsfeld and General Richard Myers, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Bandar was shown a map laying out plans for attacking Iraq, Woodward writes in the book. The map was marked TOP SECRET NOFORN, meaning the classified material wasn't to be shown to non-U.S. officials, according to Woodward.

At the meeting Bandar asked for assurances that Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein wouldn't survive the war as he did the 1991 Persian Gulf War led by Bush's father, President George H.W. Bush. Cheney responded, ``Prince Bandar, once we start, Saddam is toast,'' according to Woodward.

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0419-01.htm
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slaveplanet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 05:20 PM
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13. Most senior Administration officials
Knew we would be invading Iraq by Sept. 17th 2001 as the latest possible date that we are now aware of. I've seen evidence of the Iraqi plan dating back to the early 1980's though. So I'm sure the AO's knew we would be going in as soon as they took office.

Washington Post:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A43909-2003Jan...

U.S. Decision On Iraq Has Puzzling Past
Opponents of War Wonder When, How Policy Was Set

By Glenn Kessler
Washington Post Staff Writer
Sunday, January 12, 2003; Page A01

On Sept. 17, 2001, six days after the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, President Bush signed a 2-page document marked "TOP SECRET" that outlined the plan for going to war in Afghanistan as part of a global campaign against terrorism.

Almost as a footnote, the document also directed the Pentagon to begin planning military options for an invasion of Iraq, senior administration officials said.
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 09:57 PM
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14. K&R! - eom
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