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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 06:50 AM
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Lawmaker Saw Foley Messages In 2000
A Republican congressman knew of disgraced former representative Mark Foley's inappropriate Internet exchanges as far back as 2000 and personally confronted Foley about his communications.

A spokeswoman for Rep. Jim Kolbe (R-Ariz.) confirmed yesterday that a former page showed the congressman Internet messages that had made the youth feel uncomfortable with the direction Foley (R-Fla.) was taking their e-mail relationship. Last week, when the Foley matter erupted, a Kolbe staff member suggested to the former page that he take the matter to the clerk of the House, Karen Haas, said Kolbe's press secretary, Korenna Cline.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/20...
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 06:53 AM
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1. Is there any male page that he didn't contact?
Maybe we're asking the wrong question?
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 06:55 AM
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2. What's Interesting..
What's Interesting is that Jim Kolbe, another gay congressman, evidently told Foley to knock it off...

The Pugs are trying to turn this into a gay thing which it most certainly is not..
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 06:59 AM
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3. This is a political abuse of power thing.
I don't think it's a coincidence that the first guy they throw off the ship is a gay man. I bet there are heterosexual Congressmen who are doing the same thing to female pages.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 07:00 AM
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4. Then They Need To Be Booted Out Of Congress Too...
Too bad all moral decisions aren't so black and white...
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 07:04 AM
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5. No Way The GOP Would Much Prefer A Straight Guy With A Female Page
Edited on Mon Oct-09-06 07:04 AM by Binka
They have for years been acting as if there were no gays in the GOP. This just sets off a whole bunch of whistles and bells. Expect many more high level GOPers to be outed in the coming weeks.
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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 07:52 AM
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8. You betcha! After all, "they're only good for one thing"!
And for the second time on this thread, I will apologize to those whom I offend by repeating a despicable saying that is said by a certain type of man, against women.

But I'm trying to get INTO the mindset of the target audience. The target audience, in my particular experience, is the average republican supporter who thinks of the republicans as the "manly" party, and thinks of the democrats as the "weak effeminate" party. Such people, if they are male, will smirk approvingly if you make a remark like, "Well, you know, women are really only good for one thing!" Such people, if they are female, will spring into a burlesque "angry" posture and say something like, "You naughty boy! Don't talk about women like that or I'll tell your mother!" and will then vote republican because they like those "masculine" men.

The whole thing is sickening to me. I mean, what in the HELL is WRONG with being against fucking WAR?? Men who've actually fought in wars are almost invariably super-cautious about any possibility of war. Now that there are more and more women who are also fighting in horrendous battles, I'm sure they also (if they have survived) will view all war with a very jaundiced eye.
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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 07:23 AM
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6. Republicans: Effeminate Party of Fairies
Apologies to all you people who find the above offensive.

But you see, the above might just FINALLY, FINALLY, begin to chip away at one of the most annoying, aggravating obstacles I encounter when I try to talk sense into republicans and their supporters.

See, I am fucking SICK of these republican man constantly portraying the democratic party as "soft, feminine, weak", etc. SICK to DEATH of it. You saw how they approached John Kerry. ("Oooh! He speaks FRENCH! What a fancy 'gigolo' he is!") Never mind that the man had served honorably in fucking VIETNAM, when his opponent--the REAL pampered rich-boy "pussy" in the race--had never left the states while HE was serving (pardon me... not "serving", going AWOL.)

Sick of it! And while they think of democrats as "anti-military" (never mind that we have mega-tons of evidence that republicans screw the military and its members at every opportunity), or "anti-men", in their dim, simplistic, minds, they then assume that the republicans are some sort of bastions of masculinity. Yeah, RIGHT! Boy, that Dick Cheney, what a man! Goes HUNTIN' all the time, jus' like ME! Listen, Bubba, YOU may go huntin', and Cheney may also go huntin', but Cheney don't go huntin' "jus' like you". Bubba, would you be such a pussy that you had your servant (Oooh! Prissy rich boy has a SERVANT!) drive you in limos to the middle of a field, while some other servant then flushes the birds and you pull your little triggers like a kid whose deddy just gave him a toy gun? ("Okay, Junior, now shoot your nerf gun and see if you can hit the balloons!")

Needless to say, feminine is not automatically bad, and masculine is not automatically good. But if you get into the mindset of the average republican voter, you will find a definite bias towards the masculine AND a really stupid insistence that the republican party is somehow "more manly". And that's just plain STUPID.
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 07:28 AM
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7. You Just Re-enforced My Point
The GOP does not want their base to discover the truth about them. Bunch of pompous wimps and worse.

Ever see a bigger weenie than:
Orrin Hatch
Jeff Sessions
Bill Frist
David Dreier
Mitch McConnell....the list goes ON & ON. This scandal really fucks their image up. Finally it is about damn time!
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