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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 07:31 AM
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How convenient of Kim Jil Il to test a Nuke to divert attention for bu$h
Isn't it just a little too convenient that North Korea, whom we have not worried about all this time because Iran was the threat to set off one of their bombs in the middle of a scandal that is shaking the Republican party right before an election?
Now the media is FIXATED with the North Korea event and any other talk is mute.

October surprise?

One dictator helping one who wants to be a dictator is the way I see this.

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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 07:32 AM
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1. That's ridiculous.
Media fixated on it? Of course it is the a very important story.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 07:34 AM
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2. Au contraire. This is really bad for Bush, not good.
Edited on Mon Oct-09-06 07:37 AM by ocelot
How do I know this?

Because Faux Snooze immediately tried to blame it on Clinton.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 07:39 AM
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4. I hope you are correct
Just suspicious of anything these days
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 08:01 AM
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15. That's A Great Barometer
Now was that a full Clenis? Or just a quick metion of a blue dress?

I thought Clinton sold all our nukes to China...or doesn't it matter in Freeperland...they all look alike.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 09:20 AM
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24. Bush is such a fucking moran. He completely ignored NK
about this. Madeleine Albright was right; all that crazy lunatic in NK wanted was to be made to feel important, not impotent.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 07:38 AM
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3. This is a strategic failure of *'s policy against the Axis of Evil
And everyone in the world knows it.

Although they may need a distraction in the worst way. The value of NK's nuclear as a distraction is much less than it's value as another demonstration of the crumbling weakness of the pillars of the R's campaign.


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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 07:40 AM
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6. Strategy as we know it...
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 07:42 AM
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7. Bu$h could use this to spin the expedited attack on Iran as well
He could spin this around and proclaim that this is the very reason he needs to attack Iran without delay to prevent them from joining the nuclear race.
Maybe it looks bad for bu$h on the face but they will spin this as they have everything we though would be the monumental collapse of the bu$h regime.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 08:05 AM
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16. Sure ..under Principles of Bullying Behavior 101
Edited on Mon Oct-09-06 08:06 AM by HereSince1628
Whenever a bully is challenged and made to look stupid and weak, the bully must strike out at a readily available victim preferably a weaker one than the one that just punked you.

NK has the bomb. Iran does not. Obviously Iran is the better choice.



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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 07:40 AM
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5. The media latches on to every little thing and milks it until
the next thing comes, which is usually 2.67 days later.

Plenty of people know of N Korea's intentions.

And N Korea does not want to help Bush. They want us all dead. I fail to see why one nut would play such games with another person he dislikes.
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 07:59 AM
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14. c'mon HynoToad; NK doesn't want us dead.
if anything, it's our secretive backroom nasties who want to murder North Korea (plus Venezuela, Cuba, Iran, Syria, Iraq and god knows who else; bob woodward probably not long for the world)
they need to get nuclear capable asap, and everybody on earth knows it - bush is a criminal worse the kim jong il, whose crimes are lost in the lying liars' lies...there probably was no 'nuke test';the busheviks set off some damn thing in the hills, and blame the North Koreans for it, just like they blame saddam for 911
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 07:43 AM
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8. That's not a conspiracy theory that I will take seriously
There are limits to the conspiracy theories that I will accept. There are things that even Karl Rove does not have the power to pull off. Kim Jong Il is a certifiable nutjob. He is also not in the slightest bit interested in helping Bush, or any other American president. North Korea testing these weapons is a serious and very real situation that deserves our attention

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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 07:43 AM
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9. A huge security failure on the heels of a GOP sex scandal. Clever Rove!
No one will have the time in the next four weeks to think this show what a bad leader Bush is. Damn them!
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 07:45 AM
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10. We Need To Stop Fearing Bush...
Edited on Mon Oct-09-06 07:46 AM by DemocratSinceBirth
He's not some genius who can turn every negative event into a political advantage. I don't see how he can spin North Korea going nuclear under his watch as a positive event. As far as Iran we are nowhere close to attacking them. Will Bush attack them? Maybe... But not in the next thirty days...
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 07:46 AM
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11. Come again? This is a TREMENDOUS Bush* failure...
While he had to go to Iraq to keep us safe from WMD :eyes: and is now making the case he needs to go after Iran to prevent their producing a nuke---neither which were even remotely an imminent threat, North Korea, a dicatatorship that Bush* has ignored and refused to engage HAS a nuke and tests it right on Bush* watch. This is horrendous for the neocons.. They (and their lying justification for their actions) are naked and exposed...

Spin as they will try, even the most ignorant Americans are going to question the incredible paradox...
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 07:56 AM
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12. This is a DISASTER for this administration
and I sincerely doubt they're going to spin their way out of it.

Their inattention to important foreign policy and their refusal to continue ANY policy started by a Democrat while they've been off chasing rainbows in Iraq are obvious to most people by now.

The good puppy media will undoubtedly play this for all it's worth, but people are funny about sex scandals. They're not going to let it all get swept under the Congressional carpet.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 07:57 AM
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13. Their Spin Is Always The Same...
The world's a dangerous place and we need Bush to protect us...
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Hav Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 08:23 AM
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17. .
I don't believe that North Korea would do anything to help Bush. This isn't good news.
But we know this Administration. Until now, they could turn every failure that happened on their watch into an advantage for themselves.
So it might play into their hands to scare the masses or accuse the Dems of being too weak on national security.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 08:24 AM
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18. You really can't be that paranoid, can you?
Do you function day-to-day with that disorder? What does your caseworker say?
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Chomp Donating Member (602 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 08:26 AM
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19. Sorry OP, nonsense
Please note that there is a world out there that is not America. Not everything that happens in that world is US-centric.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 08:27 AM
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20. What the hell are you talking about?
Korea and a nuke? The only thing on the news (MSM) this morning was who would be the 300,000,000th American!

ABC,NBC,CBS, CNN, Faux, MSNBC..

:wtf:
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shadow 99 Donating Member (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 08:28 AM
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21. Just another world fruit cake saying "Pay attention to me".
I think this was a phony explosion anyway. If it was really only 500 tons it is worthless as a strategic bomb and may have just been 20 truckloads of TNT in a cave.
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PSPS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 09:07 AM
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22. It's all up to the MSM
The Rove/Bush playbook has one achilles heal -- the media. Without the media playing along, they're toast. It's been that way from the beginning of this dreadful nightmare.

Will this be "spun" into a positive for Bush? Bush/Rove will try to do exactly that. But only if the media plays along as they have so many times in the past will it work.

Given the way the media hasn't let them off on the sex-predator story, I'm cautiously optimistic that the press won't play along this time.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 09:16 AM
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23. Chalk this up as another chimp failure.
He refused to engage North Korea - included them in his axis of evil and even called il jong a pygmy. Now il jong has nukes. What's a chimp to do?

No matter how you look at this, it is not good for bushco. What's lil tough guy gonna do about it?
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