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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 11:39 PM
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3.58 tremor detected in N.Korea detected by S. Korea...
Edited on Sun Oct-08-06 11:39 PM by cynatnite
on MSNBC. Still no confirmation from other agencies.
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DemFromMem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 11:44 PM
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1. USGS says NADA
Sorry, but I trust the USGS. They're not a partisan bunch and they say there has been no seismic activity on the Korean peninsula. 3.58 seems too significant for them to miss. NK isn't exactly known for being truthful.
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taquinas101 Donating Member (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 11:57 PM
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4. South Korea made the report . . .
not all Koreans are the same. Kind of like all people who speak spanish are not necessarily mexican.
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Ediacara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 12:14 AM
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18. Still though, the rocks don't lie
And unless their is a concerted effort to shut the USGS up, the data do not support the South Korean claim.
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Taoschick Donating Member (391 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 11:44 PM
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2. I heard
The USGS was starting to get readings but nothing confirmed yet.
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taquinas101 Donating Member (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 11:45 PM
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3. BBC Also Says Its Confirmed - Fox Says Unconfirmed
The BBC refers to the evidence from South Korea:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/6032525.stm

"A South Korean official said an explosion had been detected in the north-east of North Korea, measuring 3.5 on the Richter scale."


Oddly, Fox News states, "North Korea Claims Test of Nuclear Weapon; U.S. Officials Can't Confirm," and contains no mention of the South Koreans detecting an explosion.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,218699,00.html
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mn9driver Donating Member (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 12:00 AM
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5. Even if it failed, they would report it as a success.
The Bush administration has demonstrated that as being a highly successful tactic.
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Ediacara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 12:02 AM
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6. The USGS has automated pages that show off all seismic activity worldwide
Edited on Mon Oct-09-06 12:26 AM by DinoBoy
There has been nothing greater than a Mw 2.5 on the Korean Penninsula in over a week. I have no idea why SK geologists are saying this, but the rocks say nothing has happened.



ON EDIT: Now there does appear to be a Mw <4.0 in NE North Korea, three hours after the test supposedly happened... (supposedly 9:36 PM eastern time)
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 12:04 AM
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7. It doesn't make sense why SK would fake it...
Sure it got our attention for a few minutes, but if they faked it who is going to take them seriously?
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 12:06 AM
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9. Money maybe? Commodities, something you can bet on that
if this is a faked up bunch of crap which I think it is.
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Ediacara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 12:09 AM
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12. I am so confused by this earthquake claim
Why make a fake claim like this if it's utimately so easy to identify as faked?
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 12:18 AM
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23. Get Foley off the headlines.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 12:10 AM
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13. Sorry...
it just seems to me if it was fake much of the world would find out. Why would they give him anything knowing they faked a test?

I don't think SK faked it.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 12:19 AM
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24. SK stands to benefit from those wanting to protect it.
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Ediacara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 12:08 AM
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11. I know it doesn't make sense for SK to "fake it"
Edited on Mon Oct-09-06 12:12 AM by DinoBoy
but unless someone is hacking into the USGS to block this earthquake, the rocks simply cannot lie. And honestly, it would be counterproductive to block out this information as the lack of any detected seismic activity at the world's premier earth sciences agency's website makes the whole thing look like a sham.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 12:07 AM
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10. Thanks Dinoboy!
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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 12:13 AM
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17. According to the USGS site, nothing under a 4.0 should appear on your map
"Latest Earthquakes Magnitude 2.5 or Greater in the United States and Adjacent Areas and Magnitude 4.0 or Greater in the Rest of the World - Last 7 days"

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/recenteqsww/Quakes/...

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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 12:15 AM
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19. Well no wonder SK detected a 3.8. LOL
:rofl:
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Ediacara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 12:17 AM
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21. That's for the global map
The legend for the local maps has symbols down to a Mw 2.5.



Similar zoom in maps for the United States have earthquakes down to a Mw 1.0.

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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 12:27 AM
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26. I can see the map legend, but no events under a 4.0 appear
Edited on Mon Oct-09-06 12:30 AM by IDemo
There should be a number of smaller quakes in the more active regions, but none are displayed. Alaska, Washington, and California are fairly well blanketed, but the smallest I can see on a world 'drill-down' map is a 4.3 near Fiji...
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 12:04 AM
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8. Yes just bullshit.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 12:11 AM
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14. Local news said no confirmation and that they may not be
able to detect it.



Bullshit. Not sure if I can tell you why, but trust me, it is bullshit.

I guess their polling told bush that NK exploding a nuke would be bad for the junta.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 12:12 AM
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15. Gamma Ray emissions would tell us the honest truth
No way you're going to tell me that every appropriate spy satellite hasn't been aimed at North Korea this week. There should be no reason to guess whether they let off a nuke (although with mid-terms coming up, there are many reasons for BushCo to 'insinuate'...).


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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 12:16 AM
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20. Exactree! This is 2006!
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 12:12 AM
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16. more live seismic charts here
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 12:17 AM
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22. Australian Prime Minister tells AP seismic activity detected as well...
Edited on Mon Oct-09-06 12:18 AM by cynatnite
says MSNBC news.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 12:20 AM
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25. hmmm. will check it out.
Even if there was a test, if it is so dinky that it won't register, it is a fucking failure. Like a popcorn fart in a teakettle.
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