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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 08:54 PM
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Kolbe confirms that the GOP knew about Foley since 2000
Kolbe Saw Foley's Messages In 2000

By Jonathan Weisman
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, October 9, 2006; Page A01

Another Republican congressman knew of disgraced former representative Mark Foley's inappropriate Internet exchanges as far back as 2000 and personally confronted Foley about his communications.

A spokeswoman for Rep. Jim Kolbe (R-Ariz.) confirmed yesterday that a former page showed the congressman Internet messages that had made the youth feel uncomfortable with the direction Foley (R-Fla.) was taking their e-mail relationship. Last week, when the Foley matter erupted, a Kolbe staff member suggested to the former page that he take the matter to the clerk of the House, Karen Haas, said Kolbe's press secretary, Korenna Cline.

The revelation pushes back by at least five years the date when a member of Congress has acknowledged learning of Foley's questionable behavior. A timeline issued by House Speaker J. Dennis Hastert (R-Ill.) suggested that the first lawmakers to know, Rep. John M. Shimkus (R-Ill.), the chairman of the House Page Board, and Rep. Rodney Alexander (R-La.), became aware of "over-friendly" e-mails only last fall. It also expands the universe of players in the drama beyond members, either in leadership or on the page board,

A source with direct knowledge of Kolbe's involvement said the messages shared with Kolbe were sexually explicit, and he read the contents to The Washington Post under condition that they are not reprinted. But Cline denied the source's characterization, saying only that the messages had made the former page feel uncomfortable. Nevertheless, she said, "corrective action" was taken. Cline said she still has not yet determined whether that action went beyond Kolbe's confrontation with Foley.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/20...
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 08:56 PM
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1. K & R I want the TRUTH to bring these fuckers down.
These people have so much disregard for the truth that it seems only fitting.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 08:57 PM
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2. I Demand The Repub Leadership Go UNDER OATH TO TESTIFY
Edited on Sun Oct-08-06 08:58 PM by Beetwasher
About when they first heard about Foley. There's no evidence that they DIDN'T know, and A LOT of evidence that they did. We need them under oath.

Dayum! Page A1, Now going into it's third week! Woot!

:hi:
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 08:58 PM
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3. either I'm following you
or you're following me!!

TAG!!!

YOU'RE IT!!!

:)
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 08:59 PM
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6. I'm Following You, Of Course!
Cuz I like the scenery! :evilgrin:

I saw your post to me in LBN and figured I'd give your post a kick!
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 08:58 PM
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4. K&R
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 08:59 PM
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5. It's clear that WAY too many people knew about this shit for WAY too long
for the GOP to be able to manage this story into some tidy package now.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 08:59 PM
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7. Yeah, those damn dirt Democrats that held this back...
were simply playing politics with children's safety. ;-)
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 09:43 PM
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20. Since it is now revealed that Foley's actions go back at least
10 years ago, the rethugs better rethink their argument.

No, it wasn't Clinton...too early for that.

No, it wasn't the Dems holding back. I mean why did the Dems hold back during 2000, 2002 and 2004 and waited until now to spring it? Hello? Take responsibility.

As an aside, all these IGNORANT people keep talking about gays....again...get educated...all your have to do is Google it. The vast majority of pediphiles are HETEROSEXUAL. Yeah, I know it hurts.
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 09:01 PM
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8. man! do you have one of these, or what?


you're EVERYwhere today





keep it up, baby!
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 09:03 PM
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9. LOL
I just get a new computer - It's super fast.

I'm breaking it in :)

:hi:
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 09:06 PM
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11. That second picture made me suddenly realize:
This is a presidency that's about...nothing.
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 09:45 PM
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21. OMG ! That is a great comment. Remember George? nt
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civildisoBDence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 12:35 PM
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36. Shrinkage!
Duhbya's heart and brain aren't really that small--he just got out of the gene pool, and they shriveled all up.

Newsprism
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 01:41 PM
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43. Of course, there was shrinkage.
"...just got out of the gene pool..." *snork*
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 09:06 PM
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10. Liars, liars, pants on fire.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 09:08 PM
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12. is it possible that Kolbe was one of the original sources for ABC
Kolbe is retiring this year yes?
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 09:13 PM
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14. look at this
from the story:

Kolbe once invited four former pages to make use of his Washington home while he was out of town, according to an instant message between Foley and another former page, Jordan Edmund, in January 2002. The pages planned to attend a first-year reunion of their page class. But they never took Kolbe up on his offer because of a snow storm, according to one of the four pages.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 09:18 PM
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15. i just got done reading that, doesn't look to good. this has got to be
why he's retiring.
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 09:48 PM
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24. Kolbe announced his retirement last year. Served 22 years in Congress.
So this article's info has "got" to be the reason he announced his retirement last year? A bit of a leap I'd say.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 09:53 PM
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27. most likely, i didn't know he announced last year.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 09:54 PM
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28. It sounds as if the pages trusted Kolbe. n/t
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 09:45 PM
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22. Kolbe, a gay open rethug from AZ, right? nt
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 09:56 PM
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30. Yeah. A moderate by today's standards. n/t
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 09:08 PM
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13. This has the makings of a massive coverup...
of one party to protect a sexual predator in order to maintain their hold on power.

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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 09:30 PM
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16. That doesn't even make sense at this point
Foley is one seat in the House...the GOP has a 15 seat lead over the Dems (for now)...Foley lives in a secure republican district. It certainly wasn't to maintain their power. They could have allowed him to retire and found someone new without the baggage.

I suspect the reason for the coverup is far more sinister.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 09:33 PM
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17. just posted this one in LBN
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/09/washington/09foley.ht...

folks are digging. hopefully, we'll get to know something.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 09:35 PM
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18. More sinister is right. Waiting.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 09:37 PM
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19. I heard on TV...wish I could remember who it was...
that the repukes knew during the Clinton impeachment. If that's true and it had gotten out during that time it would have made them look like the hypocrites we know they are...chances are the case may never have made it out of the house.

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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 09:55 PM
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29. Damn Right Cynatnite....
I think the Velvet Mafia is closing ranks, and I don't blame them. I think we're gonna hear much more in the days & weeks ahead. Maybe gay repubs are finally fed up; maybe they don't want to be swiftboated by the leadership.

The only thing is, I hope they'll all get on the record soon with what they know, for their own safety.
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 09:47 PM
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23. Oh yeah, OW. Live in FL. Everyone knows here that Foley is gay. nt
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 09:52 PM
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26. Sinister? Nah - predictable in this era...
Foley was a prolific fund raiser - both for his own campaign, and for his PAC. It appears that through his PAC he gave at least 100 grand a year to the NRCC. Why kill (professionally) a big campaign money source if one thinks one can cover up the ugly behavior?
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cui bono Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 10:21 PM
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31. "100 grand a year" ?
I only heard about the one $100,000 donation shortly after it was brought to Reynolds' attention. Did he really give that much every year?
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 11:03 PM
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32. Not quite. $550K since 1998 according to this article.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 01:15 PM
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42. I totally agree with you...absoultely...
This is more about covering up to maintain political control.

The only people who would POSSIBLY cover up for a pedophile--is another pedophile himself.

Furthermore---Hastert and others allowed Foley to remain as Chairman of the House Committee to
the Center for Missing and Exploited Children.

I'm sorry---but that is sociopathic and nothing put pure evil. They allowed a known pedophile
to spearhead the House's effort to protect children.

I believe that most of them are sociopathic abusers--in one way or another. Some of them abuse power. Some of them abuse children.

I wouldn't be shocked, in the least--to discover that Hastert and MOST of the GOP Congress member are child molesters or sexual deviants.

This is probably the reason why most of them stand around and do nothing while our Constitution is decimated, our soldiers die and our national debt explodes. They've all got sexual dirt on each other, and that buys the deafening silence.
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 09:48 PM
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25. Drip....drip...drip...drip...
Slowly, but surely, the tide is turning.

Love ya babe! :hug:
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 08:01 AM
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33. They knew, they lied, again
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 08:10 AM
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34. Kolbe knew and did what?
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 08:28 AM
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35. kick
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 12:42 PM
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37. Kolbe has a story about Foley in his March Newsletter...
from his website: Look toward the top on the right! (This is a joke!)

http://www.house.gov/kolbe/pdf/MarchFINAL.pdf
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 12:51 PM
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38. G O P = Guard Our Pedophile









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warrens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 12:57 PM
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39. Notice what page that was on?
Page ONE. Oops, I said page.
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lies and propaganda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 12:58 PM
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40. how i wish this was some other Az douchebag
why does it have to be the one who is retiring and were getting his seat anyway. JD would have been lovely.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 01:03 PM
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41. Thank God this is from the Wash Post...
Edited on Mon Oct-09-06 01:05 PM by TwoSparkles
So many times, there are great "Late Breaking News" Stories that
reveal the truth about these thugs. However, the stories are often from
very obscure blogs or publications.

I'm glad to see that a powerful publication is taking this scandal
seriously and reporting the truth.

It is excellent news to see that the MSM is not allowing these
pedophile enablers to emerge from this scandal, unscathed.

They deserve to suffer greatly.
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