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itsrobert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 07:37 PM
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"Christening" a military ship?
Edited on Sun Oct-08-06 07:46 PM by itsrobert
What's your thoughts about the tradition?



The word have anything to do with "Christ"?
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 07:38 PM
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1. Onward Christian soldiers.
Operation Crusade. May God bless America.
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Rosco T. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 07:39 PM
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Don't you mean "Christening" ???
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 07:39 PM
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2. I think 'christening' is more a naming ceremony than a religious one. nt
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 07:39 PM
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3. Did You Mean Christening?
Those are two entirely different things!
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CBGLuthier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 07:40 PM
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4. If you mean christening
And I am sure you do, well, it's a tradition. Kind of silly to argue much about it.
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Sherman A1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 07:42 PM
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6. Agreed
It's a longstanding tradtion.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 07:41 PM
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5. Bombing for Jesus
It's sick.
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sutz12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 07:42 PM
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7. Operative word is "Christening"
I do wish they would stop "Christianing" our country, though. :)
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 07:43 PM
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8. Wow. I hate religion more than just about anyone I know...
... But that's just plain stupid.
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 07:45 PM
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9. ...
:spray:

It's Christening, not Christianing. Just a naming ceremony. No big deal.
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 07:52 PM
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10. The word "christen" - like many words - has multiple meanings
christen 
verb (used with object)
1. to receive into the Christian church by baptism; baptize.
2. to give a name to at baptism: They christened her Mary.
3. to name and dedicate: to christen a ship.
4. to make use of for the first time.


I'm not happy with the way the RWers tend to shove their religion down our throats every chance they get ... but this is a non-issue. :-)
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itsrobert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 07:59 PM
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12. So even if the word "Christ" is in the word
It has nothing to do with Christening, whatsoever. Thanks.
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 08:29 PM
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13. A word means nothing - it's the context that's important
Edited on Sun Oct-08-06 08:53 PM by BattyDem
Christianity is being inserted into so many aspects of our life and government, so why get offended over something like this? While the tradition was probably tied up in religion in the early days, it no longer is. It has evolved. When someone says "christen a ship" no ones thinks of religion - they think of champagne smashing on the hull!

Think about it ... should we ban the word "cross" because it has a Christian significance? I guess we couldn't say "cross the street" anymore, but we could say "navigate the street" or "pass over the street." Oh wait a minute, "passover" is a Jewish tradition ... can't use that either. ;-)

When you make an issue of something like this, it diminishes efforts to prevent REAL religious intrusion into our lives. Yes, "christ" is in the word "christen" but you need to look at the context - the word alone means nothing. :-)


On edit: I just re-read this post and I realized that it could be taken the wrong way. I wasn't trying to sound snippy - I was just trying to explain why I don't think it's a big deal. :hi:

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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 11:15 PM
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17. Exactly.
Hell, I've "christened" all the cars I've owned (and even a Saab loaner car), but there was nothing Christian about the "christening."
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nealmhughes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 07:57 PM
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11. It is called that because like baptism it involves liquid, a ceremony,
sponsors and naming... similarities are too many to not have the name taken in continuance of the religious ceremony...
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left is right Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 09:35 PM
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14. I remember seeing broadcasts of old Newsreel footage of
Eleanor Roosevelt christening several warships. It did not seem like they were religious ceremonies. Although the original connotation of the word was in giving an infant his Christian name
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Geoff R. Casavant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 11:09 PM
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15. Probably better to say the words are "cousins."
Both "Christ" and "christening" come from the same Greek root "christos" which means "anointing." So there is no real religious significance to the word "christening" in and of itself, although the word is used to name certain religious observances.
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Conan_The_Barbarian Donating Member (404 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 11:13 PM
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16. FULL SCALE ALERT, DEFCOM 3!!!
damn, I really needed something trivial to complain about :(
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