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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 06:09 PM
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I went camping this weekend...2 stories which may peak your interest
I won't reveal which state park, not the person or their occupation (for item #2) to protect their identity (nor will I say what they do for a living, suffice it to say they are in a position to know).

Before I get to them - wanted to say it was a great time, great park, and we all had fun!!!!

#1 - Big campground cook out, all campers were invited and the food was great. Put on by the park to show their appreciation to all who visited there.
Right before the meal they passed out stuff to the winning campers for decorations (halloween). Gave a nice speech (the ranger, there were five or six of them at least there for this), and then turned it over to the chief cook (I do not know if he was a volunteer, worked for the park, etc and so on).

He thanked us all for coming and then said how thankful we all should be and led us in prayer thanking the Lord Jesus for our blessings. Everyone followed with an 'Amen!'.

I am guessing most of the campers, including me, were christians. And they do have a church service at the same location each sunday (put on by a local church, not the park). I felt a little askew at this as I was not sure I would have shouted 'praise allah' had it been a islamic leading things, but on the very same vein I can say that if I had went to a campground which was mostly islamic it personally would not have bothered me at all to share this moment with them (though I would not have prayed with them, bowed my head, etc - I would have been as polite as possible).

At any rate, I thought of DU the very second this started :) (been in a lot of religion battles here, guess it left a mark eh...)

#2 - My source for this is someone I know, and need to protect their identity. This came up during a conversation about computers and security. I can't say a lot more than this except said person has done this and knows his stuff better then many I know in the field (all I can say is the job is goverment related, and I won't say at what level).

One of the items mentioned were on-star. Apparently (and I ain't even going into blue tooth...but keep an eye on that one) my source was able to listen in on a conversation a person was having as the on-star is an open mic in your car if needed to be for certain people. They guy being listened in on had no idea, and incriminated himself time and again.

Also of note are some printers with hard drives in them (or your home pc) where hackers will store items (like kiddie porn) to distribute, thus keeping their systems a little cleaner. A lot more prevelant than I first imagined it appears.

I can see that as the other night I was on back porch and could not copy files to my wife's computer. I checked my settings and found out I was on my neighbors' network. I hit their gateway and they had no password set so I was able to log into their router easily (among other things). I let them know of course :) but even then they have no idea what files are on their computer if they are not on the desktop.

At any rate - just wanted to share :)


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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 06:19 PM
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1. Why are Christians so interested in spying?
When are they going to help fight the bad guys?
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 06:23 PM
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2. FYI - the word is "pique"
Most people don't seem to know that.

:shrug:
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 06:26 PM
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3. Pique, peak, it's all good to me :)
But you are correct. Been a long weekend, will make not of it but won't edit since it would make your post seem a little off ;)
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G Hawes Donating Member (440 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 04:00 AM
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7. Well, in keeping with the pedant streak....
that would be "naught", not "not"

:D

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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 11:46 PM
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4. Why Not?
(though I would not have prayed with them, bowed my head, etc -

The Muslims pray to the exact same Diety from the exact same Holy Book as the Christians: the God of Abraham, Moses, etc. :shrug:
Its not like they pray to a different God or anything.
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tenshi816 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 04:18 AM
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8. The RW fundies don't like to admit that though.
They insist that Muslims pray to a "moon god", but I don't know where they get that idea.

I remember years ago telling my fundie stepmother that Christians and Muslims pray to the same god and she went ballistic on me. Like I said, they just won't accept it.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 06:14 AM
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12. Made up shit because Muslim holidays are based on a lunar
cycle and not a solar one.

Dumb, I know, but that's their justificiation.
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tenshi816 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 08:49 AM
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13. Jeebus.
I'm trying to work out the thought process that involves taking holidays based on a lunar cycle and twisting that to mean worshipping a moon god.

And there I was, thinking that fundies lack imagination...who knew?
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 01:57 PM
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15. The Jewish Calendar is based on the moon
and worship the same god
so I wonder why the OP would not bow his head in prayer of the same God if
he was with Jews, Muslins or Christians.
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Red Right and BLUE Donating Member (774 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 11:53 PM
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5. This is all pretty much Greek to me
so I wouldn't have any idea how to protect myself:

"I checked my settings and found out I was on my neighbors' network. I hit their gateway and they had no password set so I was able to log into their router easily (among other things)."

If anyone can throw that into layman's I'd appreciate it :)
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 03:20 AM
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6. OK
when you buy a WIFI router for your home/apt, it comes with security OFF. Most people do not know to turn it on. If you have a laptop /PC with WiFi you can search to see what networks are around you. It is common in an apartment to see other networks.

If you can find one, you can try to connect and probably will be able to. Now you can access the net with their WiFi unit.

Next you can try to Explore this new Network and see if there is any puters on it. If you see one you may or may not be able to access their harddrives. Again a security issue.

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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 05:01 AM
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9. So those of us on dialup don't have tihs problem, right?
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 05:56 AM
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10. For most ppl on dialup that is Right BUT
you could have one puter dialup the net, and also have a WiFi on it so other ppl in your home could use the Net and share your 56kb modem :)

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Red Right and BLUE Donating Member (774 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 01:54 PM
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14. Ohhhh, thank you.
I don't have WiFi, so I have nothing to worry about (well, as far as this particular topic, anyway). :)

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peacefreak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 06:07 AM
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11. The Onstar story doesn't surprise me.
I spoke to someone who had just purchased a new cell phone. He was told all new cell phones were equipped with GPS. How convenient. Not only can they hear what you say, they can also tell where you are. Big Brother, anyone?
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Sugarcoated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 02:06 PM
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16. If you log onto another person's wireless network
can they see what sites you've been to?
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