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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 05:57 PM
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George W. Bush. First American President to lose TWO wars.
Come on, trolls.

Tell me why I am wrong.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 06:03 PM
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1. (Sound of crickets chirping...) Guess they got nothing.
Redstone
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populistdriven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 06:04 PM
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2. cmon trolls what happened to:
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 06:06 PM
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5. is that flag your work? I'm going to post it to my blog.
Give me a link to where you got this posted if it's yours.
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populistdriven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 08:09 PM
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26. nope. but the author is here
Edited on Sun Oct-08-06 08:20 PM by bushmeat
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Artist's Comments
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Second: I hate the Bush-government. As most dA members stated, he's a monkey, true - so here is one of his ways to bring democracy into the world.

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Little Star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 06:05 PM
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3. Good F. King point!!!!!!!
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 06:05 PM
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4. i am not a troll, but your post interests me.
Two wars: are you referring to Iraq and Afghanistan?

The man has lost much more than that. He is actually a true loser.

He lost election 2000 from hell but it was given back to him by an indebted to his father supreme court. He also lost election 2004--but the diebold machines and who knows what possible threats from the evil father to kerry gave him that all important second term that his evil father wanted so much for himself in 1992.

He has lost the war on capturing the minds and hearts of the iraqis. his sell anybullshit to the american public, karen hughes, has not been all that successful with carrying on this part of his war to the iraqis.

he would have lost a lot of money in harken oil (or was it arbusto oil?) had it not been for his father's friends bailing him out.

he seems to be losing the support of the decent republicans ...

the man is jus a plain loser.

now, instead of flaming you have support...which i hope i got right.
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 06:17 PM
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8. You are absolutely correct.
Let's make it simple.

We were attacked on 9/11/01.

The person responsible was deemed to be Osama Bin Laden.

Our military was directed to bring OBL to "justice".

He was let go at Tora Bora.

Troops were redirected to Iraq by a factor of nine.

We captured Saddan Hussein, who had NOTHING to do with the 9/11 attacks.

We have invaded and occupied a country that did not pose any threat to the United States.

Anyone wanna tell me I'm wrong?
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driver8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 07:50 PM
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25. "But...but...but...the world is safer without Saddam."
The world would be a hell of a lot safer without little lord pissy pants!!
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tinfoilinfor2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 06:09 PM
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6. Now THAT should be the cover story on Time and Newseek.
Or at least a bumper sticker.
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Loge23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 06:09 PM
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7. And he created them!
Two wars that he manufactured - custom made for maximum benefit.
WHAT A STINKIN' LOSER!!!
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PhysicsDoc Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 06:21 PM
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9. I'm recommending this because I don't think the American public
Edited on Sun Oct-08-06 06:22 PM by PhysicsDoc
knows that we are about to lose Afghanistan.
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 06:27 PM
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10. Thanks and welcome
I wish it be on a better note.
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 06:29 PM
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11. Welcome, hubby!
:hi:
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 06:38 PM
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12. My goodness
Is there something new here? :)
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 06:50 PM
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15. No, he finally took the leap. He's been a member for a while and hasn't
posted. :)
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 06:53 PM
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16. Well, WELCOME to PhysicsDoc!
:) :)

Post more often, friend!
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Riddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 06:59 PM
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17. Not only lost 2 wars, but is losing them simultaneously.
Everything this asshole's ever done has been a gigantic failure. Why would anyone think his presidency would be anything but another gigantic failure.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 07:48 PM
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24. Welcome, PDoc! Any friend of MelissaB's is a friend of mine,
and hubbies get 2 points! :hi:
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 08:46 PM
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29. welcome to DU!!
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 09:34 AM
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40. Hi PhysicsDoc!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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FloridaPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 06:38 PM
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13. He's still got 2 years and has his eyes on invading Iran. Don't count
him out yet. He could be going for 3 lost wars.
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 06:41 PM
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14. My God, you are right.
A hat trick. :crazy:
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133724 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 07:44 PM
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23. Is there a 3 strikes your out rule anywhere???????
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 07:01 PM
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18. He lost 2 wars, 2 buildings, and New Orleans
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StraightDope Donating Member (716 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 08:59 PM
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30. 3 Buildings...
WTC 1, WTC 2, and WTC 7, which miraculously collapsed in the absence of being impacted by a jetliner, and not being consumed by fire. Aside from that, I've got no arguments.
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 07:11 PM
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19. 1st American President since James Madison to lose an entire US city
He's something, ain't he?
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 07:21 PM
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20. Excellent point
Not only has he lost two wars, he gave up perhaps the most important port city in the nation.

Important reminder, Mr Scorpio. :thumbsup:
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Justice Is Comin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 09:11 PM
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31. Shit, we almost lost ALL our major ports.
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 09:30 PM
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32. At least Madison saved New Orleans
Not Bush though
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genie_weenie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 07:22 PM
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21. Hell-Oh Moon Batter! W has won every war and lost zero
Victories:
2000 Presidental Election
2004 Presidental Election
Expansion of the Federal Government to reveal it's absolutism
Siphoning off of at least 400 billion to cronies for War efforts

Hi-Yo! W wins again...
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 07:28 PM
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22. I'm not sure if you agree or disagree
:shrug:
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genie_weenie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 07:04 AM
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37. Sorry late night I'll be clear and freepish
The center of gravity during the two wars Bush has started has not been terrorism, enemy combatants, UBL or even Saddam but the American populace.

The DoD definition of Center of Gravity is: those characteristics, capabilities, or locations from which a military force derives its freedom of action, physical strength, or will to fight.

The Wars in the Middle East are not about Freedom or even Iraq's Oil (in the exact sense) but to realign the Middle East with the introduction of client states pliable to US demands/policy, so that the US will dominate the region for the next half century. After that time the oil reserves in the ME may be depleted and we will be positioned to control the Oil/Natural Gas coming from the BTC pipeline and the Caspian Seas.

Also at that time the battle over the reserves in the Spratly Islands in the South China Sea will move to the forefront.

Anyway, the US engaged in a huge IO/Psyops campaign in order to mislead the American people to supporting a War. Which is why the media blitz had to be something tangible Americans could fear (WMD) and not amorphous far reaching strategic goals for which the Ruling Regime reasoned the American populace was too stupid to understand.

So, the goals of the War (as envisioned by the Masters of this one) have to be taken into account. The suffering by the Troops and Iraqis in Iraq really don't matter because those around Bush have worked hard to convince themselves this is WWII and that was the grossest war in terms of death and destruction. 25 Iraqis killed or 3 Americans killed and 15 wounded daily hardly register, hence the comma comment.

Iraq and Afghanistan are minor police actions to the Regime, mere moping up campaigns. Why on earth are the American people against a simple rearguard action? The Wars are won, this is stopping the murderers.

So in conclusion, no one in the cabinet or those Bush will listen to will ever say this war is lost. He will leave office with the firm knowledge he has won the "Wars" and all future Rulers of American
simply have to do is stay strong in the face of the hysterical wimps and keep Iraq and Afghanistan inside the American sphere of influence.
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Keepontruking Donating Member (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 08:12 PM
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27. President???
I'm sorry you mean dictator right?????
Circus Girl
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ariellyn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 08:37 PM
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28. Bush has lost two presidential elections AND two wars
I think you hit the nail on the head--he's a dictator.
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Jcrowley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 09:35 PM
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33. What would it mean to win?
What would that look like?

Let's say the Bush admin. got all that they wanted from the invasion of Iraq. Let's say they "won." Would that be okay?
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milkyway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 10:18 PM
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34. And losing a third war. 5 yrs later, Osama's still free, and bush has made
the terrorist problem worse instead of better.

Iraq is a total loss, and cut 'n run bush never finished the job in Afghanistan. Surrender monkey Bill Frist has waved the white flag on that one.
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GeorgeGist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 06:24 AM
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35. And one country!
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 06:26 AM
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36. WRONG! 3 Wars... the Korean war never officially ended
he is currently in the process of losing that one too...
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 07:09 AM
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38. Two wars, 1 major US city, the Bill of Rights and the Constitution,
our national reputation and world standing, and every drip of goodwill left in the world.

Yup, he's a loser.
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DemonFighterLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 07:21 AM
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39. Not to disagree but winning and losing is in the eye of the beholder
In the eyes of the cronies, the wars are a big moneymaker. They don't want it settled down so quick. More destruction = More repairs. Haliburton and Brown and Root and the weapons manufacturers are happy as hell.
The depopulators are happy anytime people are dying. See: poisoning of the Iraqi police today- 7 dead and 700 sick. hmm!

New Orleans will make a great place for the cronies to build casinos and mansions.

dubby sucks, but you have to try to get inside his little mind. :dunce:

daddy said!
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 10:38 AM
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41. AND pay for both sides of both wars (think about it). nt.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 11:11 AM
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42. it goes right along with his* other failures. nt
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