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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 01:25 PM
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Did they just have a Christian prayer before the NASCAR redneck race?
Day-ummmm...

i was just scrolling through the channels and they were doing the old "in Jay-zusss name we prey" thing. I knew there was a reason why i hate that so-called sport.

:evilgrin:
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Lautremont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 01:26 PM
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1. Who among us does not love NASCAR?
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Caution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 01:28 PM
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me. I can watch and enjoy just about any sport. Heck i even enjoy darts
but NASCAR? I find it to be completely unenjoyable. And I've tried. I have friends who love it. Does nothing for me. At all.
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Lautremont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 01:30 PM
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5. Oh, I hate it too. Bo-ring.
I was just quoting John Kerry. Not the smartest thing he said while campaigning.
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 02:25 PM
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37. Me. I just about never watch it, or indeed, any sport.
I have one Republican friend whose entirely family, himself included is hooked on it. They all have their favorite driver.

When I visit there, I'm kinda forced to see it. I endure it.
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Iwasthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 01:27 PM
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2. HATE
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 01:28 PM
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3. I guess if you're driving around a track at 200mph...
or whatever ridiculous speed...

A prayer couldn't hurt.

Still, it is asinine. I'm sure God really cares about who's going to win the Daytona 500. :eyes:
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 02:27 PM
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39. I think God cares deeply about who wins the Daytona 500
Why do you think He never let Dick Trickle win the Great American Race?

Just imagine: Dick Trickle wins the Daytona 500. Fifty years later, when the race is contested in cars powered by biodiesel, kids will look at the list of winners and think, "isn't Dick Trickle one of the symptoms of VD?"
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spacelady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 06:33 PM
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56. Trickle. What sparked my interest in NASCAR, he's just funny.
The first time I heard him speak, he sounded just like Norm Macdonald.
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 01:29 PM
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4. They do an "invocation" before Dolphins football games (in Miami) also.
And, if you don't stand for the Xian prayer some fanatics will give you serious grief.

I don't attend (or watch) football anymore. Its all too repuke. :puke:





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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 01:31 PM
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6. A "non-denominational" invocation is almost tolerable...but the Xian
Edited on Sun Oct-08-06 01:31 PM by jefferson_dem
thing is so... :puke:ish
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 01:37 PM
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14. I don't see why they have to drag religion into sports.
A lot of us are sick of having these mass superstitions shoved down our throats.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 02:08 PM
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21. Like sports?
That's mass delusion, if you ask me.
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minnesota_liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 01:36 PM
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12. Tried to watch Monday Night Football a couple of weeks ago.
Discovered that it's become a cable-only thing. Oh well. Good riddance.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 01:32 PM
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7. You'll never be rid of shit like that. So what I would like to see
Edited on Sun Oct-08-06 01:33 PM by ComerPerro
is someone get up before a crowd like that, promising to lead a Christian prayer, and then do a prayer or invocation in any other religion. Hell, even Scientology.

Just to watch those Redneck hypocrites suddenly boo and go apeshit, and yell shit like "don't force your religion on me!"
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 01:35 PM
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11. or a pagan blessing...
THAT would be worth some bruises to see. LOL
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 01:40 PM
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16. That would be especially ironic
since a lot of Christian rituals were lifted...
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minnesota_liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 01:40 PM
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15. I'd like to see a prayer of sorts to Pele, Hawaiian fire goddess (n/m)
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Vexatious Ape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 01:35 PM
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8. Cars turning left. Fascinating.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 01:35 PM
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9. Quick thought: Which version of Jesus did they pray to?
NASCAR driver Rickey Bobby liked to pray to baby Jesus, the Christmas version. His friend and fellow racer, Cal Naughton Jr, liked to think of Jesus as a homeless guy. And Rickey's sons liked to think of Jesus as a ninja...


:rofl:
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Monkeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 01:35 PM
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10. Prayers are ok
Its just the far right who give me a headack
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 01:43 PM
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17. I think prayers are alright when in church, but not sport events...it is
stupid to think that God or whatever gives a damn about who wins a game...
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 02:12 PM
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24. I'm guessing you never listened to the invoccation before a game.
They're not praying toward the OUTCOME of the fucking game - they're asking that God protect the players and the fans and that He lead their hearts in good sportsman-like behavior.

None of which is bad, whether you're praying to Allah, God, Yahweh or Budda.

Geesch...
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Lautremont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 02:17 PM
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31. Maybe they should pray to the Marquis of Queensberry, then.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 02:40 PM
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44. Respectfully, when they offer up an exclusionary prayer at a non-religious
sporting event (like the one i encountered that prompted me to start this thread) that is offensive and far worse than no prayer at all.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 01:36 PM
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13. NASCAR...Watching Right Wing Drivers making Left Turns...
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 01:47 PM
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18. You don't have to be Jewish to love NASCAR
in fact you shouldn't be
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madmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 01:53 PM
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19. That's fairly common.
My roommate is hooked on NASCAR. I have my own TV and watch it on his now and then. If the prayers bothered me, I could go to mine and change the channel.
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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 02:07 PM
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20. NASCAR is mostly boring
I prefer more pure forms that feature what the fans are really there for:

Figure-8 racing and demolition derby. Everything else except Grand Prix is just left turns.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 02:09 PM
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22. Is Ricky Bobby driving today? He likes to pray to the
"8 pound, 6 oz. Baby Jesus"
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 02:13 PM
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26. That's where I got my sig line...funniest movie I've seen in a while.
:D
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 02:15 PM
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28. "I like to picture him wearing a tuxedo tshirt"
god that movie cracked me up.

:toast:
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 02:18 PM
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32. It's on our christmas list for sure.
:D
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 02:20 PM
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33. oh yeah us too, i love Will Farrell. I also love John C. Reilly.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 02:10 PM
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23. Boy - for a bunch of "tolerant" "progressives," you guys aren't
either, judging from the majority of posts.

I don't like NASCAR, either, but that doesn't mean I put down anything I don't like or call it "stupid" or "redneck" because it doesn't involve sipping something with your pinky up.

Psssttt.... NASCAR's popular up NORTH, too.

:eyes:
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Maine-ah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 02:16 PM
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30. very popular up here.
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vikegirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 02:25 PM
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35. THANK YOU, Clark2008
I love NASCAR, and it pisses me off when so-called "progressives" resort to "redneck" name-calling. But I guess it doesn't matter because most of you, by default, think I'm "boring." :eyes:

BTW, I'm agnostic, and the prayers don't bother me at all.


Who are the real idiots, anyway? :eyes:
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Telly Savalas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 02:44 PM
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45. So are you of the opinion
that there should be a "Things I Could Easily Avoid with the Press of a Button on the Remote, But Instead I'll Whine and Moan About" forum on DU and that this thread should be moved into it?
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Lautremont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 02:54 PM
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49. Perhaps that forum could be paired with a folder called
"Threads I Could Easily Avoid By Not Clicking My Mouse On Them, But Instead I'll Whine and Moan About Them Within Those Very Same Threads."
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 03:00 PM
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51. Who do you think you're kidding?
:eyes:

The outrage I see here is at people being pissed off about the Reich Wing X-tian fanatics wanting to pray before sports events. Leave the effing prayer at church.

I sure am not jumping on NASCAR, whether I like it or not. Disliking NASCAR doesn't make you a bloody hypocrite, or an intolerant jackass.
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Egalitariat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 07:19 PM
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57. Implying its fans are all rednecks does make you a moron, though***
nm
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 07:53 PM
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60. Oh, please. So happens that NASCAR is among the "redneckiest"
of all "sports." That does not mean that one who reminds us of that reality is suggesting that *all* fans of NASCAR are rednecks.

Cheers.

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gollygee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 02:12 PM
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25. Yes and whoever wins will thank god for his help
because god apparently is focused on sporting events instead of other more trifling matters.
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ngant17 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 02:13 PM
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27. NASCAR is for the mechanic in the family
God obviously has put His blessing on NASCAR because He designed "racecar" to spell the same backwards and forwards. Just like "Madam, I'm Adam".

If you like to take apart and rebuild V8 motors, you're probably be a fan of NASCAR. If you like to take a $20 dollar bill and put a bic lighter to it to watch it burn, then you've met one of the minimum qualifications for becoming a stock-car race driver.

I'm a 4-cylinder kind of guy, haven't ever figured out how impoverished Southern rednecks can afford to drive gas-guzzling V8s, let alone race them at 10k RPMs around the track with race-fuel that costs approx. $10/gallon. You will spend $200 and burn up a motor for a one-time thrill on Sat. night. And this is amatuer-level racing. It isn't real NASCAR stuff which is major bucks to invest in the car.

I can barely afford to drive my 4-banger to work and back. At posted speed limits. Prayers can not hurt for the traffic, I encourage you to pray before driving on interstate highways every day. Praying before a NASCAR event is not a bad idea, people have been known to crash and burn on the track.
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Syncronaut Seven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 02:16 PM
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29. They taunt death, spinning in circles, spinning their wheels.
In what way do they advance humanity?

When we have passed from here, will NASCAR really matter?
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guinivere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 02:22 PM
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34. It's boring.
I have been to car races at Road America. It's a road race, not just left turns. Even that got a little boring after awhile.

I guess if I was going to drive about 200mph I would probably want to ask some deity for a little help.
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 02:33 PM
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40. I just can't help it...channelling...
"I don't care if it rains or freezes,
Long as I have my plastic Jesus
Riding on the dashboard of my car
I could go a hundred miles an hour
Long as I got the Almighty Power
Glued up there with my pair of fuzzy dice"
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guinivere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 02:47 PM
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46. lol
:D


My dad kept a little plastic St. Christopher in the glove box. :shrug:
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 02:51 PM
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48. Was that before or after Christopher got "demoted"?
:)
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 02:25 PM
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36. I Might Not Agree With The Prayer, But Your Derogatory Label Is Deplorable
Such hateful intolerance should not be welcomed here. Just my opinion.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 02:34 PM
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41. Which label? "Redneck"? FYI: I love the South. I'm a fifth generation
southerner and have never lived anywhere but the South...the freaking buckle of this bible-belt even. So I think i've a right to speak out against some aspects of the southern culture that i find offensive, eh.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 02:39 PM
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43. No You Don't.
No one has the right to use such broadbrush terms in a disparaging manner. I really don't care where you live. Using a bit more respect and tolerance for others in our community who might not appreciate your offensive use of the term might be a better way to go next time.
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ngant17 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 05:42 PM
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54. I don't think redneck is really disrespectful
of anyone who fits that category. It's not the same as calling an African-American a "nigger", which is derogatory.

Red-lining a V8 at 10k or more, for extended periods of time on the track, this is a serious torture test and an accomplishment of engineering by itself -- so anything that we can learn about improving the mechanical operation of an auto under those demanding conditions, it could possibly have utility in the production of better performing and more reliable street vehicles for mass-production.

Of course, if we run out of gasoline and have to watch NASCAR using electric or hybrid vehicles to race in the future, I think I could find that interesting, too.
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Hosnon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 07:41 PM
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58. I don't think it's an offensive term either. Most rednecks are proud of it
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 02:26 PM
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38. I spent 3 years going to the Speedrome in Inianapolis...
...watching Figure 8 stock car racing on the southeast side of town when I lived there.

Just going around in circles at any speed doesn't do much for me since then.

Don

http://www.speedrome.com /

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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 02:39 PM
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42. Yeah, they do it at drag races too
Gives me a chance to keep walking, hat on and saying out loud "RW retards can kiss my ass".

Other than commenting out loud, I just ignore it - the southerners who dominate racing come up to NE and feel it necesary to push their culture as much as possible. You should see the blank stares and rolling eyes in the stands as the guy rambles on about how they do things "down South" & saying things like "y'all do pray to gawd dontcha". I'm not kidding when I say they push their culture to the max. I find it kind of funny actually - they have no idea how juvenile it appears to many people who have given themselves permission to think for themselves.
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Ksec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 02:50 PM
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47. Ive been watching NASCAR since the seventies.
Not a rabid fan but I like the long track races like Talladaga. Im watching it today because my Steelers dont play until 8 tonight. And its a talledaga race.
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Bzzzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 02:57 PM
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50. It really tears me up when they score and they...
point to the heavens. But when they fuck up, they sure don't point up there and say "it's your fault...I dropped the ball!!!" :rofl:
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 03:02 PM
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52. yes they did
so what? oh i forgot i`m a redneck christian nascar fan....ever think that there are christian democrats that are nascar fans? the latest bunch of top drivers are not from the south but the northern states and by golly some of those states are blue. yup lets alienate more people from the democratic party...
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 03:03 PM
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53. I despise NASCAR. Boring waste of gas.
:boring:
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William Bloode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 05:56 PM
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55. Wow, what a lack of decency.
I am flabbergasted at the close minded bile spewing forth in here. Bash, us poor Southerners, bash our language, bash our traditions.

What a bunch of pseudo progressive loud mouths. Got tolerance? I think not. How despicable, especially from a group that is supposed to promote tolerance.

Yes theres praying. Nascar is rooted in the South and Southern traditions, of which praying happens to be one.

Heh! And i thought people around here were open minded tolerant types. I get more of the close minded intolerant mindset than anything. What a disgrace.
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Hosnon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 07:44 PM
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59. It's a hallmark of intolerance. You don't have to tolerate something you
label stoooopid or bad. Repubs do it all the time with gay marriage.
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