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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 09:49 AM
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Freepers now working to protect child molesters
Edited on Sun Oct-08-06 10:23 AM by nomad1776
Seems the freepers have found a new low to sink to. They found there is now a tip page for Congressional Pages, who were sexually harassed or molested. To encourage reporting it doesn't require a name or phone number. Seems the freepers are so afraid this could catch more sexual predators, that they are flooding the email address with phony emails. I think NAMBLA and Freee Republic have formed an alliance.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1714499/posts
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 09:52 AM
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1. This one thinks the kid was an adult?
Isn't this great? ABC news is trolling for slander now. And let me guess, merely making a charge will be enough for ABC to make further accusations. LOL, this is a network desperately trying to bail itself out from a sinking ship on this scandal. The kid was an adult, no one laid a hand on him and he was a willing participant playing a prank by soliciting these kinds of remarks. I think most Americans are smart enough to see this for what it is.
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beyurslf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 10:08 AM
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5. Yes, most Americans are smart enough. They can see you are stupid too
Edited on Sun Oct-08-06 10:09 AM by beyurslf
I am saying that to the freeper post inside your post BTW.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 11:22 AM
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14. LOL!!
Thanks for the clarification. :)
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 10:57 AM
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9. OMG...
...those assholes on Free Repuke STILL think that the sexually explicit emails from Foley to a minor page is a PRANK? What in the hell then do they call rape? A really big prank? The fault of the victim? What???

:puke:

Talk about being reprehensible. ANYONE who gives a free pass to any adult who has sexually exploited a minor should get a does of Bush's torture policy, IMO.

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emdee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 05:56 PM
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31. The kid(s) that were asked to measure their erect penises
Edited on Sun Oct-08-06 05:57 PM by emdee
were not of age, were they? That is NOT ok. Unbelievable!

emdee :mad:
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 10:03 AM
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2. Beginning of the neoconservative fascist "Generlplan Ost" for the
...United States of Amerika, children turning on adults through accusation and lies.



<snip>
Generalplan Ost stipulated, after Wetzel's revisions, that 50 million people, mainly Slavs, were to be deported from Eastern Europe. Their place could be taken, over a period of 30 years - allowing for natural increase and immigration from other Germanic countries - at most by 10 million, though probably not more than 8 million, settlers. Dr. Wetzel realized the difficulties that would arise in the settlement of the eastern regions, but he consoled himself with the thought that a similar situation once faced North America. The use of this analogy suggests a further train of thought, admittedly not pursued by Wetzel, but which can hardly be ignored. The Americans were incapable of exploiting the vast territories they had acquired through extermination of the Indians and had to resort to Negro slave-labour. The Nazi scheme to detail manpower from among the native population to work on the farms of German settlers strongly recalls the buying of slaves by American farmers and plantation owners in the first half of the 19th century. This scheme did not talk about the "hiring" of farm labourers but expressly used the word "detailing," in other words, the willingness, or at the very least the wishes, of the people concerned was to be completely disregarded. In addition, the labourers assigned to each farm would have belonged to different nationalities unable to speak each other's language. It was supposed that this would force the labourers to use German, the only language that all of them would out of necessity know, and thus hasten the process by which they would lose their sense of nationality and even bring about their Germanization. It seems, however, that the main object was to hinder any opportunities for collusion which might lead to passive resistance or even organized revolt against the Germans.

This has been a very general description of the provisions contained in Generalplan Ost, and particularly in Wetzel's memorandum which, as was said before, was an elaboration of it. That this plan was to have been put into effect, and would have been, had Nazism triumphed, is shown by the fact that a number of its provisions were actually carried out, especially in Poland.
<more>

http://www.dac.neu.edu/holocaust/Hitlers_Plans.htm
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populistdriven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 10:03 AM
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3. The GOP has been using the FBI to cover up Pedogate
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 10:06 AM
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4. This should go on the front page of DU, to the blogs, then the media.
And capture that screen.
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populistdriven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 10:14 AM
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6. The FBI could be jamming them also - they covered it up back in July
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 10:25 AM
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7. Makes you wonder how many more Republican peverts
there are?
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 10:28 AM
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8. Fugg the Freepers
I see they've only managed 19% of their donations' target in a week. Things aren't looking good over there and I'm loving it :rofl: :popcorn:
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 11:08 AM
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11. Just my opinion,
but "fugging" is too good for the Freepers. Wish there was some way to "unfug" them. It would be a much better world if there was a treatment for what ails those morans.

:hi:
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 11:34 AM
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16. What ails them is
their repressed attitude to basic human instincts like fugging. So they and their fake christian leaders sneak around and peak around. They're genuine sickos.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 01:56 PM
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22. Yep...
...I guess the only solution would be BRAIN TRANSPLANTS and this time, provide them with something between their ears that contains at least two cells of gray matter to rub together!

:hi:

IMO, you hit the nail on the head in your description ~~ such totally repressed people who have totally "fugged" up religious ideas. Please note: I did not say IDEALS for the obvious reasons!
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 11:05 AM
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10. Send This To The Press, RE: Morals And Values GOPers
Just like in the bible, the ones crowing about their own moral superiority are the ones who pull shit like this. Unbelievable.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 11:18 AM
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12. Been my experience that the ones crowing about moral values
Usually do so, to hide THEIR OWN lack of them.
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 11:21 AM
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13. There are alot of people without
Edited on Sun Oct-08-06 11:22 AM by undergroundpanther
A conscience in this country. There are alot of People who beat their own kids behind closed doors, people that rape kids,How do you expect a statistic like 1 in 4 girls are raped by age 18 to occur unless our nation is full of psychopaths who SYMPATHIZE with those in power wanting to get away with shit like what foley did? Because THEY too like to do it or WANT to,and would like to get away with it too.The poor thugs voting republican don't want money they want to get away with abuse.In all it's evil ugly ways.
Underneath the money and fraud, the GOP is the bully and psychopath party.
http://www.jimhopper.com/abstats /
http://www.armchairsubversive.com /
http://www.stoptherod.net /

The majority of abusive parents represent a range of personality and emotional disorders(Justice 77). An authoritarian personality is characteristic of abusive parents, as well as drug or alcohol dependency, neurosis, mental deficiency, and/or emotional immaturity(Justice 77).

http://www.roadtopeace.org/research.php?itemid=714&cati...

How the authoritarians ruin the future..
http://www.insidetime.org/May06_Articles/abuse.htm

Coincidence? NOT.
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 02:00 PM
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24. Very well put. nm
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DaveJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 11:28 AM
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15. "You Think" freepers are behind it??
They are saying that they are.

Your link shows that they actively support abusing this site. Sarcastic lines like "Jeez I hope no one plays a prank on ABC with tons of false stories." "I hope not...it would be a shame." "No - that would be very wrong and irresponsible" "This crap should only motivate our base." "I know the location of Big Foot.." "Yeah...that would be real shame. :^)"

Nobody is condemning these people who want to write fake reports. They are ALL behind it!

One guy posted a fake/joke report and got the response "Oh it has so motivated me. I am ON!"

I agree with them to the extent that I can see how a form like this would be useless if it is abuse. They are the ones doing the abuse!
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 11:43 AM
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18. YES!
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 11:42 AM
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17. How bad is it?
This paper will examine two systems - families and communities - and how each contribute to the problem of incest/sexual abuse of children.

Two determinants of incest/sexual abuse in families are:

1. the structure of the family
2. the rules and norms of the family

Two determinants of incest/sexual abuse in communities are:

1. the status of women and children
2. the criminal justice system

The most important attribute of a social system is the social norms which hold it together. Norms consist of all the agreements, formal and informal, explicit or implicit, which regulate and give order and purpose to a system, be it a primary or secondary group...Norms give stability and a sense of unity to social systems, but they are also a major source of conflict in social systems." (Longres, 1990, p. 35)

Families have rules and norms that regulate the behaviors of its members. These rules and norms give the family stability but at the expense of the rights of individual members. In the incestuous family, it is at the expense of women and children.

...(A)ll the people in our society have been raised by rules of the poison pedagogy. And these rules create dysfunctional families...These rules are non-democratic. They are based on inequality of power and unequal rights. They promote the use and ownership of some people by others and teach denial and repression of emotional vitality and spontaneity. They glorify obedience, orderliness, logic, rationality, power, and male supremacy. They are flagrantly anti-life.

These rules are carried by family systems, by our schools, our churches, and our government. They are a core belief of the modern `consensus reality'.
Society itself thus becomes the ultimate dysfunctional family system. As a system it follows the principles of general systems theory,Like the individual families..., the society as a closed system dictates the roles (sex roles) and behaviors the individual can choose from. (Bradshaw, 1988, p. 167)

The role of denial , repression, and dissociation in individual, family, and community systems can't be underestimated. These mental processes are learned early in life, are deeply entrenched, and are protecting and preserving the systems. Denial, repression and dissociation provide immediate relief from pain, are substitutes for healthy coping skills, and are used to*** avoid change.***

http://www.clinicalsocialwork.com/systems.html

And What do republicans do? Protect the sick evil status quo they offer to protect the"family values" to "discipline children" and beat them, to reinforce the rigid gender roles,(women as servants) protect the corporate thieves ..The Gop stands for all the evil soul killing stuff that authoritarian,narcissist and psychopath's do,to this world in effect the GOP is about keeping the bully on top.
And when so many people have such distorted personalities it is easy to see why they appear to on the surface to vote against their own interests,because we looking in do not understand what these joe six pack gop loyalists interests really are . It's not money it is to ABUSE PEOPLE and ABUSE POWER to RULE absolute,to DOMINATE even if it is just over a wife and kids..
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 11:45 AM
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19. they are degenerates
sickening, repulsive degenerate freaks
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 11:57 AM
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21. We need to get these criminals out of power
And do what need be done to tyrants. As written by our founding documents.
Psychopaths cannot be negotiated with.
psychopaths cannot be trusted.
Psychopaths refuse to respect others.
Psychopaths have have knowlege of right and wrong,but don't care because they have no consience.
Psychopaths seek to build a culture of tolerance in others to accept the abuses and crimes they do as OK or "normal" or a "prank",so they are not accountable to the people they deliberately targeted and wounded..

The founding fathers knew tyrants never stop abusing power....America especially liberal, has forgotten how brutal one must be to remove tyranny,permanently.We quote the founding fathers alot,but we omit the fact that they were willing to kill tyrants in thier midst to preseve OUR liberty from tyranny.

Think about it.

The death penalty, as it is currently administered in the US, is thus revealed as lynching by other means in the service of greater power for scoundrels and demagogues.

The first order of the business of restoration of humane values in our society is to dismantle this barbaric system. Once that is accomplished, once individuals who are capable of deadly violence are safely restrained, once the fears of victims are adequately addressed by society's iron-clad assurance that individual perpetrators will not be allowed to inflict further violence, once our system of justice is in the hands of people with integrity, honesty and humanity, only then can we consider any other possible situations where the death penalty can be imposed with humane reason.

Given that a just society has been made to function properly, I would submit that there is a category of perpetrator who might best be dealt with in a summary manner. Namely, those individuals who are parts of combinations that continue to use their power to subvert law and decency, who continue to commit crimes of conspiracy against humanity, seem to me to be reasonable targets for the final punishment. These individuals cannot be said to be safely incarcerated because their partners who remain free can be expected to try to subvert the system, likely through the use of further measures of mass violence and terror, in order to secure their release. Such individuals are a threat to lawful individuals but, more importantly, they truly are a threat to the fabric of a just society itself.

http://www.unknownnews.org/051213a-HerbRuhs.html
Child abusers..Cannibals..
http://www.unknownnews.org/050908a-hr.html
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 03:54 PM
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28. my sentiments exactly
although I'm less restrained than you.
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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 11:48 AM
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20. Thank you very much Freepers
Now we know just what kind of people you are.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 01:58 PM
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23. Maybe Some Of Them Will Use It As An Opportunity To Confess...
eom
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 02:06 PM
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25. Perhaps someone should notify their ISP? This is certainly a violation...
...of most standard service agreements. Using a site for
activity like this can get your site YANKED in a hurry.

And given the nature of the site they are Freeping,
an actual CRIMINAL Investigation may be in order.

And I'd suggest saving that thread before FR scrubs it.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 03:41 PM
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27. I think ABC could go after Free Republic
A lawsuit might do the trick.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 02:16 PM
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26. Freepers are posting their vile shit on DU too.
Edited on Sun Oct-08-06 02:17 PM by TheGoldenRule
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 05:15 PM
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30. Bingo n/t
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Ksec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 04:23 PM
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29. I think that was all part of the plan
When Hastert made the email that pages could use, the assholes would flod it with thousands of emails, and then start the talking point that there are "millions of pages being abused and wanting money." I knew this would happen the minute Hastert talked about this new email you can report abuse to.
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