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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 12:54 PM
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Cannon jumps into Foley mess 'Precocious kids' comment triggers outburst

FRONT PAGE of the Salt Lake Tribune!



By Thomas Burr
The Salt Lake Tribune
Salt Lake Tribune
Article Last Updated:10/07/2006 02:00:03 AM MDT


WASHINGTON - Rep. Chris Cannon on Friday attempted to clarify public comments he made a day earlier seeming to blame teenage congressional pages in the unfolding scandal of former Rep. Mark Foley of Florida.
"These kids are actually precocious kids," Cannon, R-Utah, told KSL Radio's "Nightside" program. "It looks like, uh, maybe this one e-mail is a prank where you had a bunch of kids sitting egging this guy on."
Cannon, who has defended House Speaker Dennis Hastert's handling of the scandal, also said Thursday that there is not much to do other than educate kids to the dangers of going online.
"Frankly, this is the responsibility of the parents," Cannon said. "If you get online, you may find people who are creepy. There are creepy people out there who will do and say creepy things. Avoid them. That's what you have to do. And maybe we can say that a little more to the pages."
Democrats reacted to the comments with disgust.
"It's outrageous and irresponsible," said Christian Burridge, a Democrat challenging Cannon in the 3rd Congressional District. "You have a district here with the most children in the United States in a congressional district and we've got a congressman blaming absolutely irresponsibly outrageous conduct that needs to be investigated on the victims. That sends a horrible message to the victims of sex crimes."
Cannon said Friday morning he was not trying to blame the pages whatsoever in the scandal where Foley is alleged to have had several sexually explicit electronic conversations with teenage boys. Foley resigned a week ago after ABC News first reported the instant messages between Foley and a former page.
"The point of what I said is that institutions can't protect kids in a day when you have instant messaging and cell phones that do texting but also take pictures," Cannon said in an interview Friday. "Parents need to take some responsibility and teach their kids what to do."
Cannon's statement about a "prank" echoed a comment from conservative radio host Rush Limbaugh, who said this week that maybe it was the kids "engaged in some kind of chicanery."
"Maybe they were laughing at Foley in the page room," Limbaugh said. "Maybe Foley's making advances and maybe you know , 'Let's egg this guy on.' ''
Matt Drudge, conservative muckraker of the Drudge Report, cited anonymous sources close to one former page calling an initial e-mail a "prank" and saying, "he goaded an unwitting Foley to type embarrassing comments that were then shared with a small group of young Hill politicos." The outed page's attorney told the Daily Oklahoman that the e-mail was not a prank.
Cannon, who again repeated in an interview that "all kids" are precocious, said he doesn't see his comments as blaming the victims.
"This is not about minimizing Mark Foley, who really is creepy," Cannon said. This is "not about blaming kids. It's about warning parents and kids that they need to take responsibility in a world full - or with an increasing number - of predators."
Cannon, later appearing on CNN's "Situation Room," more squarely laid the blame on Foley. "Foley is the guy who was the predator, and he's who to blame here," Cannon said.
He didn't back off his ''precocious'' statement, adding that because of their technological savvy, pages "may put themselves in more danger."
Steve Olsen, a Democratic candidate in Utah's 1st Congressional District, said he was troubled by Cannon's comments.
"Minors do dumb things, it's almost to be expected. But you expect adults to be responsible - at the very least, not take advantage of a minor's lack of judgment."
State Democratic Party spokesman Jeff Bell posted on his blog that Republicans have been trying to blame Democrats for making the scandal political.
"Fine. Do it. I don't care," Bell wrote. "And, you want to know why? Because one of Utah's politicians said the most disgusting, irresponsible and overwhelmingly partisan thing about the Foley scandal: Chris Cannon blamed the pages, the children. . . ."

http://www.sltrib.com/ci_4456550
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 12:56 PM
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1. NUTS and SLUTS!!!!!!!
My goodness, it didn't take long, did it? Those hussy-boys, those tempters, slutty lads who ASK FOR IT!!!

And front page, that's great!! Stay home, GOP Mormons, stay home!!!!!!
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 01:00 PM
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5. Really.
Those bearers of tight, firm, athletic young asses and other manly attributes, designed by Satan to tempt any Republican member of congress so...ahem...inclined.

Spawn of the devil, they are. Spawn of the devil. Undoubtedly egged on by The Democrats to sap our vital bodily fluids and essences.
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 12:57 PM
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2. Ahhh, The Party of Personal Responsibility.
For anyone but themselves.
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 12:59 PM
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3. Avoid the creepy Congressmen you work for, kids!

:eyes:
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 01:00 PM
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4. Hmmm, interesting, this is the SECOND time a republican makes
reference to pictures with regard to the foley scandal. Once might be "mispeak" but twice is more than a coincidence, imo.
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 01:02 PM
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7. Which prolly means...
That these dumbasses are dropping their tongues and there are pictures.

Question: Are there pictures of Foley as well, sent to the kids?

Wouldn't doubt it for a second.
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 01:06 PM
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11. you know there's gotta be pictures!

If Foley's texting teens, he's fantasizing about them and looking at pictures. WHo's got Foley's computer???
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 01:02 PM
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6. Sometimes, one person will defend another as a way of justifying...
...his or her own behavior. It makes me wonder if Chris Cannon has been "egged on" by "precocious children." It may be time to shine a light on his activities.
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 01:06 PM
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13. Very good point..

Cannon seems to have a real issue with precocious children.
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Kierkegaard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 01:03 PM
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8. Well, that pretty much completes the cycle.
EVERYONE is to blame except the perpetrators.

Not to judge a book by its cover, but why do all the Punks speaking out on this look like conniving weasels who's own mothers wouldn't turn their backs to?
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 01:03 PM
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9. Can you still edit and break this story up a little?
Into paragraphs

I hope this guy goes down, why do they look like they do?


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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 04:35 PM
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23. I'm sorry - I ran out the door to deliver campaign materials after I
posted this - too late now. :(
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 01:05 PM
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10. K&R for them stepping in it (more) n/t
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RufusEarl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 01:06 PM
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12. It's about mudding the waters, that what it's about!
This is what the repugnuts are all about, muddy everything keep the truth as far away from the wignuts as you can. Geez these people are have no shame, and will do and say anything to stay in power.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 01:07 PM
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14. Makes you wonder how many pages
he's diddled?

I think these guys are terrified of these kids coming forward. I think we are going to find out that Congress is the little hotbed of all kinds of illicit behavior,.



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Bob3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 01:18 PM
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15. The pages are getting a valuable lesson in GOP ethics
in that there are none. Sweet Jesus these kids are working for you for free because they actually are interested in government and politics and working for the Republicans because they actually believe the swill you spout (well they are young). These kids want to have a career in government, for them this is like interning at a prominent law firm prior to going to college when they want to become lawyers. These are serious young people, so to have bloated GOP toad after GOP toad imply that these kids are some kind of gay baiting kids gone wild cause they get their jollies off of egging on old gay congressman is just F##king insane and vast insult to these kids.
Being a congressional page isn't pledging at animal house.

God in heaven what next, the parents are at fault cause they raised such good looking kids?

swine.

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The Blue Flower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 01:19 PM
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16. With R's it's all projection
From day one, they've accused everyone else of engaging in behavior that belongs to them alone.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 01:27 PM
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17. K&R
:kick:
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 01:28 PM
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18. I wrote him and told him to grow a conscience instead of covering up
and blaming victims.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 03:03 PM
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19. Another fat dirty old white man getting into the fray!!!!!!!!
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wiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 03:27 PM
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20. The Pathophysiology of the Republican Brain
If Orwell had written Lord of the Flies we'd have a primer for the treatment of this diseased Republican mindset. Get them out of my government! Put ankle monitors on them to keep them away from children and power!

I've never seen anything like this.

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yellerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 03:30 PM
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21. Thank you.
This guy really deserves much wider exposure. K&R :kick:
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 04:30 PM
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22. I am going to write an LTTE suggesting the pages be required to wear burqa
burqas - after all, we can't have them tempting our weak willed pedophiles in Congress.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 11:09 PM
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24. :P
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