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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 12:32 PM
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Hastert lives with his Chief of Staff Scott Palmer? Odd, but, oh well.
According to Lawrence O'donnell...

~snip~ There are plenty of odd couple Congressmen who have roomed together on Capitol Hill, but I have never heard of a chief of staff who rooms with his boss. It is beyond unusual. But it must have its advantages. Anything they forget to tell each other at the office, they have until bedtime to catch up on. And then there's breakfast for anything they forgot to tell each other before falling asleep. And then there's all day at the office. Hastert and Palmer are together more than any other co-workers in the Congress.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lawrence-odonnell/who-is-...



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Pharaoh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 12:39 PM
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1. REALLY?
OMG this could get insanely funny!!!!!!! :popcorn:
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 12:41 PM
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6. I couldn't make this stuff up. It's a comedy of hypocrisy & weirdness.
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Pharaoh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 12:47 PM
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13. Damn! We need to vote this up!
K&R
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 12:46 PM
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11. Hasturds Wife Resides At A Hotel
And the fellows at Casa De Denny don't cook. It's been restaurants for 20 years! (Obviously the diet platter is not on their menu card.) The assistant chief of staff lives with them as well. Denny must be assembling another wrestling squad.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 01:03 PM
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31. Denny lives with two of his employees? That defuses the scandal.
But he doesn't own a house? What does he use as his residence address for elections?
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 01:08 PM
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39. Denny Has A Million $ Plus Property In IL
His personal wealth has increased from $300,000 when he entered Congress to over 6 Million! Shrewd investor Mr Bratwurst is! Indeed.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 12:40 PM
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2. The moral majority is suffering some slippage..
Apparently their moral standards aren't mutually exclusive..
Just more back door politics..
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 11:22 AM
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 12:40 PM
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3. "Tell each other before falling asleep."
Pay attention.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 12:41 PM
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7. G'night John Boy,....G'night, Denny...n/m
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hsher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 01:01 AM
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102. Bwaaaaaaa
:rofl:

(Cue Waltons end theme music)
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 12:40 PM
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4. Congressman David Dreier Lives With His COS Who Is Also His Lover
Is this a GOP family values tradition? I'm sure GOP voters would find this DISTURBING!
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 01:02 PM
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28. John Kasich used to live with his COS, as well, a few years back NT
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 01:04 PM
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33. And were they just good friends?
Sorry, I don't know Kasich.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 01:06 PM
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35. He was another in the "open secret" file, near as I know NT
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mithnanthy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 11:46 AM
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121. Tony Blair's son...
also recently lived with Dreier and Dreier's boyfriend during an internship, young Euan Blair was enrolled in. Google Euan Blair and David Dreier.
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POAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 12:40 PM
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5. He must live with someone
How else could he tie his shoes?
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 12:48 PM
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14. Or Eat His Toenails. n/t
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POAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 12:49 PM
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15. Not an image I needed before eating lunch.
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 12:54 PM
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21. Sorry I Think It Is One Of The Few Low Calorie High Protein Snacks
Denny dines on. That and a large amount of navel lint.
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POAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 01:01 PM
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26. Ok there goes lunch
:puke:
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 01:15 PM
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42. I Saved You Some Calories Today n/t
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POAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 01:27 PM
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54. Thanks, I needed that! n/t
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dogfacedboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 11:34 AM
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116. Damn, that's nasty! You're my Hero of the Day! I love it! n/t
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 12:42 PM
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8. Must Be from Hastert's Wrestling Coach Days...
... you know, boys will be boys during sleepovers and field trips, and bunking arrangements are especially close for wrestlers, who are used to grappling with one another on the mat...

; )

- Dave
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Tinksrival Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 12:43 PM
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9. HHHHAAAA HHHAAA !!!!



:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 12:45 PM
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10. There are two possibilities with Hastert:
1. He is super straight and only thinks of it as bunking, like bunking in the military.

2. He is gay and that is why he lives with his male chief of staff.

It should be noted that Tom DeLay, another member of the House leadership, lived in a small apartment...alone.

It is kind of weird for the most important person in the House to live with other people, especially when Hastert has a net worth of $6 million dollars.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 01:01 PM
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24. Last bigwig who lived with an employee was J. Edgar Hoover.
Is there a red dress in Denny's closet?

My GOD! With this in the hopper why didn't he resign????

The only thing I can think of is that he is not committing a crime, except maybe adultery (like Clinton), and he's always been protected so far.

But, between Americablog and O'Donnell, I don't think this secret will last the week. If you put the articles together, Hastert is outed.
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POAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 01:03 PM
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32. Maybe a blue dress?
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 01:17 PM
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45. I know, this is a very weird circumstance.
VERY weird.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 11:27 AM
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112. O'Donnell is almost shrieking Palmer covered for his lover, Denny.
Edited on Sun Oct-08-06 11:28 AM by aquart
He refuses to be the one who comes right out and says it, but he infers, hints, juxtaposes...he's making it really hard to miss.
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 01:20 PM
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49. Denny Didn't Resign Because Malignant Narcissists Don't Quit
They only stop when they are fucking forced to IMPLODE. It is a trademark of the disorder. I can't wait for the fall out. It will be a stinking huge load of pants that's fer sure!
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 01:56 PM
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70. Does anyone on Earth have less justification for Narcissism than Hastert?
I know it's a cheap shot, but jeeze louise!! Fundies show pictures of Hastert when they're trying to turn gay men straight!
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 10:50 PM
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98. HI Binka!
We don't want Hastert to IMPLODE, for christ's sakes he could cause a BLACK HOLE with that bulk and the result would suck all of the known universe into his force field, probably his navel :)

Tho if he Exploded it would be like Krakatoa, shock waves felt all the way to Britain no doubt.

I like what Hunter Thompson once said about Nixon. He'd said that he wanted to see Nixon dead, when his editor told him, "You can't say that, you can be arrested for statements like that, you can use metaphors but not direct statements.."

So Hunter replied, "How about 'I'd like to see Nixon with his intestines wrapped around a phone booth'?"

The editor said that would be fine :)

I'm pretty sure that Hastert has enough intestines to wrapped around Congress, gaily festooned just in time for Christmas :)

I love the pic they supplied with the "Soros and the Aliens are after us" schtick that Hastert started with the other day, before his saner pals told him to knock it off.. the picture showed Foley, looking creepy as usual, and then Hastert with his night crawler LIPS making a perfect circle - he looked just like a giant inflatable sex toy :)
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 01:02 PM
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27. He's a bit old for roommates
especially since it's not a financial issue.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 01:18 PM
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46. I know, that is the weirdest part of this. Someone with money...
shouldn't have to worry about this.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 01:29 PM
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57. I would never live with
one of my employees. I don't think that would be appropriate. Not unless I was already related to the person in some other way.

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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 01:34 PM
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60. Just one more reason this is strange.(nt)
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 03:29 PM
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87. Strange, weird, and hysterical...
Edited on Sat Oct-07-06 03:30 PM by seasonedblue
those fun lovin' family values guys.

Maybe they'll send out a group Christmas card pic :+
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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 05:25 AM
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106. As I recall it....
In a lot of ways, Congress resembles a university, or more often a fraternity at a university. As such, Congress has a large dorm system. It used to be official, but I don't know if it still is. Other Members shack up with one another because they at least are bound by the same rules of confidentiality, and lack thereof. There have been all sorts of unusual pairings in DC, not a single one of which I can recall beyond James Buchanan and Rufus King, who lived together for sixteen years before going on to be President and Vice President in later times.

Years ago I knew a lobbyist with an inside track on a particular Republican Member of Congress because that guy lived with the lobbyist's good friend, a Democratic Member of Congress--an odd-couple living arrangement which was noted for its humorous potential, but which was hardly unique. Now I really do wish I could remember who they were.

Most of those relationships are not even remotely suspected of being sexual. Rather, many Members of Congress make something of a show of "just visiting," either because they're one-or-two termers or because they want to let their consituents know that they still "live" at home, or because the rest of the family does not wish to relocate, or because they're such sluts that they don't need a bed of their own.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 11:36 AM
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117. A Congressman living with a Congressman is EQUALS.
They can yell at each other over who didn't buy the toilet paper.

But living with an EMPLOYEE???? Different. Very different. Unless the employee has some other kind of power to equalize the relationship.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 11:34 AM
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115. Which would only make it more complicated, trust me.
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 01:49 PM
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68. No it's not that weird for important people to live with others
politics is a 24hr a day profession, like being in the military on permanent campaign.
If I were an important legislator I would definitely want some of my staff to live with me, and not for midnight tickle fights. Conspiracies really require face to face presence.

Tom Delay lived alone in a small apartment because his downtime requirements were fulfilled by a coffin full of dirt.

Here's the thing though: if you were a straight legislator (or a gay one) who needed live-in help--counselors and advisors and research assistants--you'd want not just minions and underlings who can do research but above all one trusted person who was your equal mentally and in tune with you ideologically. Where will you find such a person who will not have their own family life to interfere with serving your cause on a 24hr basis? Where will you find someone who's your equal on the one hand, but on the other hand who represents no threat to "go off on his own" as an elected politician?
That's right: you need yourself a GAY.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 02:00 PM
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72. How does a high school coach make $6mil? One lobbyist at a time?
Culture of corruption, run by a Vulture of corruption
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pscot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 11:30 AM
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113. He got lucky on a real estate deal
after Congress funded a highway construction project that runs near some farm land he had recently purchased. Proximity to the road apparently increased the value of his land by five million bucks.
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dogfacedboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 11:36 AM
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118. That is precisely why many here in his district want him gone.
There is an in-law of an in-law in my family who purchased a bunch of land in that area just before that deal went down. He's also a close friend of Hastert.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm????
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 12:47 PM
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12. I always just assumed Hastert was married.
Edited on Sat Oct-07-06 12:53 PM by Pirate Smile
OK, I found this:

"Just ran into: Jean Hastert, wife of House Speaker J. Dennis Hastert

Valentine's Day special....
Just ran into Jean Hastert, the wife of House Speaker J. Dennis Hastert (R-Ill.) in the hallway outside the speakers' Capitol office suite. She just dropped in on her husband.

It's a rare D.C. appearence for Mrs. Hastert. She was here a few weeks ago for President Bush's State of the Union address. She was off to an afternoon tea, at an ambassador's residence, sponsored by some international group.

When in Washington, the speaker lives in a group house with his chief of staff, Scott Palmer and top deputy, Mike Stokke.

I asked her if she is bunking with the guys.
She is not. She stays in a hotel.
As we parted from our brief encounter, Mrs. Hastert said to me, ``write good things.''

I said something like it's not always possible. I mumbled a bit about how her husband has gotten peeved with me.

In my business, I said, they ``shoot the messenger.''"

http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2006/02/just_ran_into_j...
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 12:50 PM
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17. I just did a search. He's married and yet that doesn't always mean
anything.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 12:51 PM
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19. True.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 01:20 PM
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48. Look at McGreevey. And if a Democrat needed to do it...
imagine a Republican back in the '80s.
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 12:51 PM
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20. He Is Married It Appears To Lovely Facial Hair AKA A Beard
I read on DU earlier that his wife resides at a hotel.
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hsher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 01:03 AM
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103. That is so sad



www.yourmorningleibowitz.blogspot.com
The Daily Show as a comic strip
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 01:19 PM
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47. Now that is FUCKING WEIRD! Who does that?
Why wouldn't he stay with his wife at the Hotel? I'm definitely starting to think Hastert is gay, and that is about the last nail in the coffin.
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 11:25 AM
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111. I wonder if she gets paid for playing "wife"
Edited on Sun Oct-08-06 11:39 AM by LiberalEsto

Here's a snip from his official bio:

"Hastert lives in Yorkville, Illinois, along the Fox River with his wife Jean. They have two grown sons, Ethan and Joshua who lives and works in Washington, DC. Whenever he can find free time, Hastert enjoys attending wrestling meets, going fishing, restoring vintage automobiles, carving and painting duck decoys."

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Opusnone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 12:49 PM
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16. Does anybody remember the story or have a link to
a group of Christian repuke congressmen sharing a house together in DC, living in "brotherhood" being waited on by students from a local college?

Worth a re read if I can find the link.



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mcg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 02:52 PM
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82. "Fellowship finances townhouse where 6 congressmen live"
I think is it ...

http://www.tennessean.com/government/archives/03/04/317...

copied at
http://www.govsux.com/where_evil_resides.htm
(with more information)

The Article: Fellowship finances townhouse where 6 congressmen live, By Lara Jakes Jordan, Associated Press, Sunday, 04/20/03

WASHINGTON Six members of Congress live in a million-dollar Capitol Hill townhouse that is subsidized by a secretive religious organization, tax records show.

The lawmakers, all of whom are Christian ("believer"), pay low rent to live in the stately red brick, three-story house on C Street, two blocks from the Capitol. A group, alternately known as the Fellowship and the Foundation, that brings together world leaders and elected officials through religion, maintains it.

The Fellowship is host of receptions, luncheons and prayer meetings on the first two floors of the house, which is registered with the IRS as a church. The six lawmakers U.S. Reps. Zach Wamp, R-Chattanooga; Bart Stupak, D-Mich.; Jim DeMint, R-S.C.; and Mike Doyle, D-Pa.; and U.S. Sens. John Ensign, R-Nev.; and Sam Brownback, R-Kan. live in private rooms upstairs.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 12:50 PM
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18. greatest #5
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 12:56 PM
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22. Wasn't it also
O'Donnell who was warning that Republican voters would be shocked at the number of gay Congressional leaders? And he then writes this article about Hastert? Hmmm.
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 01:01 PM
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25. yes he did on MSNBC the other night



spot on
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 12:58 PM
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23. David Drier lives with his COS, Brad Smith
And in the "open secret" files, they're a couple and have been for years.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 01:03 PM
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30. This Ain't Ozzie And Harriet...
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 01:04 PM
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123. Yes, but Drier is openly gay. Ironic - he was up for DeLay's position, but
was passed over because of his acknowledged sexual orientation.

What an irony if Hastert turns out to be a closeted gay. I'd be really POed if I were Drier.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 03:36 AM
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127. No he is NOT...he used to "date" Doro Bush, Bo Derek and a few other
beards. Ask him, he will deny it.

He's so far in the closet that you'll find grandma's old winter coat before you find him.
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Senator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 01:03 PM
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29. The Other Houseboy -- "Hastert's Intern"
Interesting article titled Inside Hastert Inc.:

Second to Palmer is the deputy chief of staff, Mike Stokke, 43. In addition to the men's government salaries, Hastert's political action committee pays them for outside political work, records show.

...Stokke, Hastert's deputy chief of staff and chief political operative, has a history with the speaker that dates to 1981, when Hastert was a freshman state legislator and Stokke was a college intern in the legislative liaison office for the Illinois Department of Conservation.

... When in Washington, Palmer, Stokke and Hastert share a townhouse near the Capitol. And, like Hastert, his top aides maintain residences in Illinois--Palmer in Aurora and Stokke in Bloomington. A typical night in Washington for Hastert is likely to end with a dinner with Palmer and Stokke at AV Ristorante Italiano, a red sauce Italian restaurant in a transitional neighborhood of Washington.



Sounds cozy enough.

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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 01:08 PM
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38. Ye gods. Which one is the chaperon?
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 01:14 PM
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41. Now Now They Are All Adults
Which one wears the chaps is a more interesting question.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 01:16 PM
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43. Binka asks the right question. Chaps make the man.
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 01:28 PM
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56. Where Do They Shop? XX Large Queer Guys Lane Bryant?
Edited on Sat Oct-07-06 01:31 PM by Binka
And NO I am not gay bashing. I really want to know. BTW my gay son who is a JR at George Mason University says that the scuttlebutt (pun intended) is that Denny has been a known queer for years. Davfid Thomas of BBC's Little Britain will be shocked to know he is " Not The Only Gay In The Village."
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 01:24 PM
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53. Adults - fine. It is with consent. Or is it? Employer/employee issue?
If person in subordinate employment position wants out of any relationship, they may have problems with job & housing. Hmmm, there's an issue/

Haven't there been problems in the past with polls who have relationships with subordinates? Accusations of abuse? Blackmail? Oh yeah.

This could open up THAT can of worms ;) Oh, just musing & fishing :evilgrin:
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 01:39 PM
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63. I believe they're called streamers when they reach a certain size.(nt)
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 01:09 PM
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40. Are the other two married men also?
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 01:08 PM
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124. It just gets deeper and deeper, doesn't it?
How in the world did these guys keep this secret all those years?
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Phredicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 01:04 PM
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34. I know of someone who I bet is SO envious of this arrangement:
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Pharaoh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 01:06 PM
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36. Ha HA !!!
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

:toast:
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 01:07 PM
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37. What about Trent Lott? Heard he frequents clubs in DC
the FULL Monty in riding (cowboy) chaps! ;)
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Janice325 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 01:16 PM
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44. Oh my goodness!
I read O'Donnell's article as well as the comments.
I'm speechless.
I don't think they can fix all this Foleygate. :rofl:
k&r
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pat_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 01:20 PM
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50. more tidbits
Edited on Sat Oct-07-06 01:21 PM by pat_k
Tidbits

Just ran into Jean Hastert, the wife of House Speaker J. Dennis Hastert (R-Ill.) in the hallway outside the speakers' Capitol office suite. She just dropped in on her husband.

It's a rare D.C. appearence for Mrs. Hastert. She was here a few weeks ago for President Bush's State of the Union address. She was off to an afternoon tea, at an ambassador's residence, sponsored by some international group.

When in Washington, the speaker lives in a group house with his chief of staff, Scott Palmer and top deputy, Mike Stokke.

I asked her if she is bunking with the guys.

She is not. She stays in a hotel.

As we parted from our brief encounter, Mrs. Hastert said to me, "write good things."
I said something like it's not always possible. I mumbled a bit about how her husband has gotten peeved with me.

In my business, I said, they "shoot the messenger."


Not a smoking gun. Don't even know if it is the same guy, but came across this from DCFR News in 2003:

. . Highlights of the race included Scott Walsberger finishing 17th overall, Blake Rushin finishing 2nd in her division, Scott Palmer injuring his leg at mile 1 but still finishing. . ."


From DCFR Welcome page:

DC Front Runners is a road-running and walking club for gay men, lesbians, and friends in the Washington, DC, metropolitan area. Membership is open to all people regardless of race, age, gender, sexual orientation, or athletic ability.


Haven't come across any more Stokke tidbits. . . Until he fell on his sword yesterday, looks like he kept a much lower profile than Palmer.

WRT other player, Fordam -- as back as 2004 reports identified Kirk Fordam as gay (e.g., Washington Blade article).

This Kos diary covers the Gannon connections, but provides insights for those who are unfamiliar with the network of Cohnist types.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/2/19/204254/937
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laststeamtrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 01:21 PM
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51. Not the ' do nothing' congress. The 'do each other' congress...
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 01:35 PM
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62. OMG! That is so FUNNY!!!!!!
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
On that you get 5 ROFL!s
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 01:24 PM
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52. The hypocrisy of the 'thugs shows it's face once more...
:puke:
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 01:28 PM
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55. This song popped into my head
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Pharaoh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 01:30 PM
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58. HA! That's great!
You DUers are so resourceful..............I love my DU! :party:
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 01:39 PM
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64. Thanks.. this little site has a ton of theme songs
Edited on Sat Oct-07-06 01:42 PM by SoCalDem
I bookmarked them ... a handy resource

http://tripletsandus.com/80s/tv_theme_wav.htm

It also has all the old 80's video games

http://tripletsandus.com/80s/80s_games/arcade.htm
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 01:32 PM
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59. long time no hear. thanks
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 01:34 PM
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61. Haster can't be gay.
He's fucking ugly!

:D
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 01:40 PM
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65. Has anyone heard of anything about JUDGE NAPOLITANO??
From FAUX (he works at faux)

A good friend of mine has a brother that lives in New York and has seen him on many occasions with his significant other.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 01:44 PM
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66. Thank you, Laurence O'Donnell!
I can see why this is such Pertinent information that denny-boy and his chief of staff, scott palmer, live together and have an incredible amount of time to catch up on information that one needs to know to run the big House.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 11:33 AM
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114. He's hinting, broadly, that Palmer covered for his lover.
Which impeaches Palmer.

That IS relevant.

Would you take a fiancee's testimony that her man was innocent? Would you take a wife's? Hastert is vindicated ONLY by Palmer.

If they lie, and cheat, and then cover themselves in the protection OUR honor gives them? To hell with them. They have earned NO protection.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 01:47 PM
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67. VERY IMPORTANT QUESTION:
Now that Scott Palmer has resigned (he HAS, right? am I correct on this?) we would expect him to move OUT, RIGHT???????

If he doesn't one would want to know why - like, is he still COS functionally but not legally? Or are they too, ahem, buddy-buddy for him to just up and leave?

Enquiring minds want to know!
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 02:05 PM
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73. It was Kirk Fordham (Foley's old COS) but Palmer may have to quit soon...
because it was revealed in a Washington Post article this weekend that he WAS TOLD, this was not from Kirk Fordham's mouth but another staffer on the hill, who works for Hastert.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 02:25 PM
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80. If Palmer WAS TOLD, and Palmer LIVES WITH Hastert,
nobody better try to pull a fast one on me and say Hastert didn't know.

I didn't just fall off some turnip truck.

These ass carrots better be glad I'm not with DOJ or other law enforcement involved in this.
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DesertRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 01:51 PM
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69. Can't wait to hear the freepers spin this one
Edited on Sat Oct-07-06 01:51 PM by DesertRat
:popcorn:
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 01:59 PM
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71. I'm wondering if this thread and this other one are related in some way.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 02:08 PM
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75. He was a wrestling coach and that might be a position of power...
a child predator might exploit. I, too, wonder about that.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 02:15 PM
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76. It was a red flag for me when I heard the shrub praise him as a coach.
Edited on Sat Oct-07-06 02:17 PM by OmmmSweetOmmm
I don't want to disparage all of the wonderful people who work with youths in sports, yet many child molesters do work with kids. A dear friend of mine was sexually molested at 15 by his baseball coach. I was always very alert when my sons were involved in organized sports because of the possibility of something happening.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 02:21 PM
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78. And the sport of wrestling of all sports...
baseball players hardly make contact, wrestlers, well obviously make more contact.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 02:54 PM
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83. True. nt
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Stand and Fight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 02:07 PM
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74. Wow.... If this is true FReeper heads are going to explode. n/t
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Homer Wells Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 03:08 PM
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84. FREEPERS are standing united on this one
all of them standing at attention, fingers firmly in ears, singing "LA LA LA LA LA I Cant hear you!!!!!"
(It's all a liberal plot to destroy our precious bodily fluids!)

:spank: :spank:
:rofl:
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 02:19 PM
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77. All the more reason why Hastert was in the know all along
I figure they rented in the same place to save money as many legislators do. And I couldn't care less who sleeps where. The important thing to note is that they had more than enough opportunity to apprise each other of what goes on in the House of Rep. Bottom line - Hastert knew and put the Party above the youngsters.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 02:22 PM
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79. It really does seem like that, but an article has yet to written...
with undeniable proof that will force Hastert to resign.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 03:17 PM
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86. Proof of his failure is that he wasn't told - if that's what happened
IMO, undeniable proof isn't the key. It's how Hastert managed the House. A Page predator in Congress is something he should have been aware of.

If his management style was to put the word out that he didn't want to deal with such important matters as the safety of youngsters - then that's a black eye to his leadership style. His staff, and others in the House, should know by his orders that he wants to know about such things immediately.

Even if he surrounds himself with staff who are negligent - that's his poor judgment again because he hired them.

Hastert is in a box and has nowhere to turn.
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 02:38 PM
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81. So, when his wife visits and stays in a hotel, does he stay with her or
...does he stay with his roommate?
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 09:28 PM
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96. It sounded like Denny sayed with Palmer and Stokke!
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 08:58 AM
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107. That's what I thought!
I can understand people having roommates in WA DC, after all it is terribly expensive and they do have primary residences in their home states. But, to have the wife stay in a hotel, alone? That does not make sense.
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DireStrike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 03:15 PM
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85. Oh, that DARN LIBERAL MEDIA!!!!
Seriously, how has nobody reported this before?
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 03:29 PM
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88. A purely personal comment. I'm sure it's all meant in good sport,
but much of this thread is an embarrassment to me as a gay man and a fellow DU'er. Just my two cents and I'll leave it at that. Thanks.
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Pharaoh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 03:32 PM
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89. It's not about the gay
it's about the hypocrisy,
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slaveplanet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 09:38 PM
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97. Being Gay
Edited on Sat Oct-07-06 09:43 PM by slaveplanet
Isn't the problem.
Being in the closet is.

It makes one extortion friendly, easily compromised to do another's bidding.

I hate to say it, but this aspect is even worse than Foley's predation.
High crimes indeed.
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hsher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 01:05 AM
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104. If you're going to legislate against gay people
You waive your right to having a rent boy.
Sorry.


www.yourmorningleibowitz.blogspot.com
The Daily Show as a comic strip
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 07:55 PM
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91. Come on now.
A lot of politicians bunk together to share expenses. They do it on the Dem side also. This is ridiculous.
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lies and propaganda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 07:57 PM
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92. this stopped me dead in my tracks.
i still dont know what to say and ive been staring at the screen for a minute or two.
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 08:58 PM
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93. This is just delightful news....
Has dirt is too damn ugly to have sex...but I suppose it's possible.

And aren't all wrestling coaches gay?
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GCP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 09:03 PM
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94. and his sister, Rosy
:evilgrin:
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 09:08 PM
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95. well, Hastert is, or was a wrestling coach right...
:rofl:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 11:44 PM
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 10:51 PM
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99. says Assturd did not jump to his defense during the press conf.

.....In Hastert's brief, evasive press conference on Thursday, sharp reporters immediately zeroed in on Palmer's role in the Foley information flow. Did Hastert leap to the defense of his chief of staff's honor in the crucial credibility contest with Kirk Fordham? Did he say I know Scott Palmer and I know he's telling the truth? No. He avoided every question with Palmer's name in it. Hastert obviously does not want to talk about Scott Palmer.

If Fordham did warn Palmer about Foley a long time ago, what are the odds that Palmer did not tell Hastert? As close to zero as you can get. Many chiefs of staff are close, very close, to their bosses on Capitol Hill. But none are closer than Scott Palmer is to Denny Hastert. They don't just work together all day, they live together.
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eviltwin2525 Donating Member (269 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 12:42 AM
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101. "...they have until bedtime ..." Or, maybe that's when it starts?
Ick! Ick! Ick! Ick! I just completely grossed myself out. Ewwwwwwwwwwwww!
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Generic Brad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 01:18 AM
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105. Not That There's Anything Wrong With That
They may think so, but I do not.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 10:14 AM
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108. For some reson...
...the picture of J. Edgar Hoover and Clyde Tolson came to mind when I read this.



Or...maybe that was Joe McCarthy and Ray Cohen???



Just a bunch of evil, sick Repuke pols and their little side-kicks.... :puke:
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 11:23 AM
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110. So what? Two men can't live together now? (NT)
NT
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 11:37 AM
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119. Two men who force an anti-gay agenda on the Nation.
Questions will be asked.
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Rockstone Donating Member (633 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 11:38 AM
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120. Is he the Palmer of Hastert's staff?
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 12:54 PM
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122. Reminds me of J. Edgar Hoover and Clyde Tolson
Edited on Sun Oct-08-06 12:58 PM by leveymg
They also had a need for 24/7/365 togetherness. In their case, Washington press corps kept a respectful silence -- nobody wanted to piss off the head of the FBI.

But, why has the Speaker's living arrangements been kept under cover for so long that we haven't heard about this until now?

Odd, in more ways than one.
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HughLefty1 Donating Member (67 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 01:08 PM
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125. As a woman..
I can understand why no woman would voluntarily live with Hastert..has anyone taken a good look at this man? While flipping thru the channels, my ignorant bf mistakenly thought Hastert was the pervert Foley last week,lol..
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 01:17 PM
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126. Welcome to DU, HL1!
I can't imagine why anyone could stand to see Denny in his shorts. Even if it's just a dorm arrangement.

If all this is true about Hastert, I imagine your bf will soon see enough of his face on TV to associate it with the name and position -- but, then he'll be gone.

Rehab.
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