Howard Fineman: 'This election is a rout", Church going bushies PISSED!

[Philosoraptor]

On tweety's show he said the numbers don't lie, and the people at the megachurches he's spoken to say they are FED UP with republicans.

HA. HA. HA. FUCKIN' HA.

[azmouse]

1. What a shame it's taken this long

for them to come to their senses. Better late than never I guess.

[butterfly77]

5. Some of these same so called christians ...

are evil as hell and they will vote for the liars no matter what.

[GreenPartyVoter]

2. What is scary is that the fundies are pissed that he's too liberal

[dkofos]

8. Too liberal??

The fundies are so confused.
They don't seem to have any idea what is going on around them.

[GreenPartyVoter]

12. No, it''s true. They are really mad that he hasn't managed to get gay

marriages banned (and gays stoned etc)

[mdmc]

15. true enough

[BootinUp]

17. I think its also seeing the filth of politcs too closely.

The corruption with one party rule.

[Irreverend IX]

23. Then let's make that work for us.

The time is right for someone--a mole on our side, perhaps?--to rally these guys together and found the "Jesus Party" or something. This party will rabidly attack both Republicans and Democrats and be a massive spoiler for Repub candidates the way Greens are for us.

[Philosoraptor]

3. Joe S. absolute disaster, gonna lose house and senate

sweet music to my tired ears

[BOSSHOG]

4. republicans have been lying to these assholes for

the last six years nonstop and just now they are opening their little puppydog eyes??

Christian conservatives don't like it when the pedophiles they send to congress get caught. They want them to continue to vote for their constitution destroying agenda.

[Cha]

26. Took ol' mark foley, denny hastert, tom

reynolds, and shimkus(though I'm not exactly sure what shimkus did or didn't do) to do it.

[MADem]

6. SUSAN RALSTON (DeLay/Abramoff mole) just QUIT Rove's office

Could it be she's been called to TESTIFY??????

[BootinUp]

7. Wow. But seeing is believing for me. Its been a long 30 years

of watching this mess develop, I want to savor every second of the collapse.

[Philosoraptor]

11. a toast to mark foley

[yellowcanine]

9. What I read somewhere is that it is the people who only go to church

once a week that are deserting the Pubbies, the ones who go two or more times a week are sticking with them. Go figure. I have no idea what that means.

[GreenPartyVoter]

13. I do. The more-than-oncers are rabid. The other ones tend to be

mostly in it either for show or "life insurance".

[BootinUp]

14. The ones that go more than

once a week are the real worker bees. Their brains stopped asking questions a long time ago.

[riderinthestorm]

16. Uber evangelicals go Weds eve, Sunday am and Sunday pm

I'm thinking he is referring to those who are really hard core believers.

Presumably under that theory anyone who just goes on Sunday am (or to Temple only on Fri pm etc.) wouldn't be so hard ass about deserting the repukes.

[Swamp Rat]

10. BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

[City Lights]

18. Howard and Joe gave a devastating assessment.

:wow: They didn't hold anything back. Not just Foley. It's DeLay, Ney, Cunningham, Abramoff.

Today's Hardball is must-see tv!

:beer:

[Drum]

19. I don't necessarily hear that as great news,

except---here's the optimistic part---in terms of numbers of voters.

If the Dems take over Congress, which they should do for the good of the country, I am still worried about "megachurches" infiltrating ANY party, so that they maintain some kind of creeping-ivy stranglehold over American politics. That sort of compromise has certainly flowered under the Bush administration and among the GOP-controlled Congress before Bush, and I don't want one sect---no matter how popular or prevalent---to pull their moralistic strings in our government. No party has immunity from their kinds of temptation and blackmail of politicians, after all.

US Government must be secular again, no matter who is in office. It worked from the 18th century until now...sure, with flaws, but we are a long way from those noble ideals made real these days.

Church-going folks should remember that, and not presume themselves to be political...or do they forget that separation of church and state is a protection of both sides from the intervention of the other??


:scared: & :mad:

[kerry-is-my-prez]

24. You're worried about Dems letting the churchs take over the party??

I think that's about as likely as the Pope turning Jewish.

[Drum]

27. Taking over? No.

But compromising some Dems through pressure...yes. The church/state separation has never been weaker, and that is bad for all of us.

The fundies' belligerance with "owning" a piece of government and foisting bad policies on us while denying others' rights is a symbol of a bad bad trend.

Or have we forgotten how empowered they are, have we forgotten Bush's pandering to them, the "holy" war the right-wing purports to be waging in the Middle East and Persian Gulf? This shit is bad for us, And I want it to be about different motives from here on out.

How many bad political turns in the past 6 or 7 years did we say weren't "likely" to happen? :shrug: Just sayin'....

[Renew Deal]

29. We must continue to build a movement.

And that should include religious folks. Christians and others in this country should know that we will let them practice freely, and we will not let them discriminate against others. I think that's a fair compromise.

[Drum]

30. That's all I'm saying.

Not exclusion of religious folks, just stop the hijacking of gov't.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

20. I don't care about the church going bushies think.

I want to know what the fence sitters think.

[symbolman]

21. The Evangelicals

HATE Competition, and Foley is sucking up all the Young boys they might have had their eyes on, so they've got to get the Repigs out, before all the massive abuse happens and they don't get a piece of the action :)

But at the same time, ALL of them scream and cry the same thing, "AH have SINNED.." and "Let us not Forget the Lesson of Christ, FORGIVENESS.."

Here's something I bet no one sees coming.. the whole Amish thing of being Magnanamous enough to forgive the killer.. watch them take this, and the Media is pushing it HARD and apply it to BUSH and FOLEY and anyone else who's screwed right now and for future LEGAL issues..

Seriously, they are going to start screaming on the Media that as CHRISTIANS we need to FORGIVE the right wing, Betcha a hundred bucks it becomes a media/Rove PUSH..

And hopefully I haven't given them a Get out of Jail Free card right here, If I did please FORGIVE ME :)

[sarge43]

22. Is that the same Forgiveness thang they offered to Clinton?

Hypocrites. Feh.

[Cha]

25. "Ha Fuckin' Ha"

:lol:

So there's hope for those church goin' repukes?

[Renew Deal]

28. I want the church people in our party.

I think it's critically important. They are us and/or people like us. We may not be the perfect party, but we care about them. The republicans just care about power and money.