Voter registrations FAKED in GOP drive - Tennessee - STEALING VOTES!

[spanone]

About 150 forms questioned in Metro, Williamson County

If this is happening across the country, this is how you STEAL ELECTIONS

~SNIP~ At least five apparently bogus voter registration forms were submitted to the Metro Nashville election commission by a worker with ties to the Republican National Committee, and up to 150 other registrations have been called into question, The Tennessean has learned. ~SNIP~

http://tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061006/NEWS0206/610060429

[BlueJac]

1. The sham has started

[Double T]

2. Rethug election fraud has already begun.........

looks like THIS will be the MOST CORRUPT election yet.

[skids]

3. Typical... they accuse of what they do.

While they divert attention from e-voting to "voter fraud" they are up to "voter fraud" themselves. Typical.

Every Dem strategist should immediately upon deciding to call out a Republican for one of their transgressions, think to himself "how are they going to try and accuse us of doing what they are doing?" because it's inevitable. They just cannot diverge from that page of their playbook.

[theHandpuppet]

4. Have you noticed one thing really odd about this article?

Why aren't they providing the name of the accused? If there's some asshole out commiting a federal crime on behalf of the RNC, let the public know who this person is and let's hear what he (or she) has to say rather than just hearing from some mouthpiece from the Republican party. Hell, the local papers report the names of people suspected or accused (not necessarily guilty or convicted) of the most petty of crimes, so why such delicacy in this matter, a federal offense?

[ProgressiveEconomist]

5. This may be all about getting "Voter ID" through the Senate. IMO, it's

highly unlikely anyone would try to swing an election with a few dozen impersonations of suppposedly registered voters. IMO, these kinds of false registrations are motivated by payment of low-wage campaign workers by the signature rather than by the hour. To prevent this kind of signature fraud, IMO it ought to be made illegal to pay people to gather signatures or registrations in that way.

No one has provided in court any evidence whatsoever that any person ever has been impersonated at the polls.

IMO, Republican operatives may deliberately be providing low-wage campaign workers with incentives to falsify registrations, just so these kinds of news stories will be published, and they can use such reports as pretexts for stealing MILLIONS of votes, not just a few dozen, with "Voter ID" legislation.

If "Voter ID" gets through the Senate (it has already passed the House as HR 4844), MILLIONS of voters WILL be disfranchised. Who is not likely to carry picture ID at all times? Why, people without cars or jobs to drive to every day. And who are those people, and how do they tend to vote?

There already have been court decisions overturning "Voter ID" in Missouri and Georgia because they would have disfranchised hundreds of thousands in each of those states. The best estimate of the number of people who would lose their vote if HR4844 becomes law is ELEVEN MILLION (see http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=2841188&mesg_id=2841188 )!

See also a big DU thread on a NY TImes editorial against HR4844, archived at http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x2184544 . Lots of good links there.

[mopinko]

7. highly unlikely

not highly unlikely. it is exactly how they steal elections. see nathan sproul

[EFerrari]

6. We know they're going to go after minority and low income voters.

This IS how they steal elections.

What are we doing about it?

[ProgressiveEconomist]

8. "This IS how they steal elections". NO--they steal 00s OF THOUSANDS

of votes at a time, not 150 at a time.

A more logical way for Republicans to abuse voter registration would be to set up tables in minarity areas, get people to fill out registration cards, and then just throw them away. Perhaps hundreds of minority voters then will show up at the polls believing they are registered, but they will not be.

There have been widespread reports of such tactics since 2000.

[kentuck]

9. Then send them absentee ballots..

then sign their signatures on them. Bingo. No ID required.

[EFerrari]

10. They do both. In 2004, they even offered to come and pick up

absentee ballots so seniors didn't have to turn them in at the polls. They have a thousand tricks to shave votes.

Oh, and we're forgetting the student vote. They were targetted, too, in 2004. They got robo calls that told them they'd lose their financial aid if they voted in the "wrong" precinct, they stood in alternate (long, long) lines, their ballots went missing in the mail.

[progressoid]

11. "I think this is more financial fraud, not election fraud," BULLSHIT!!

The potentially fraudulent forms could be the handiwork of a political worker who was paid by the number of new voters registered, said Jon Crisp, chairman of the Nashville-Davidson County Republican Party.

"I think this is more financial fraud, not election fraud," Crisp said.


Nice try Crisp. No matter how you slice it, it's still election fraud. Not to mention identity theft.

[galloglas]

12. A Tennessee Pissin' Match

Paul Lehto ( DU's Land Shark) posted an article earlier this week about the Voter ID issue as carried by an editorial in the Tennessean. It was an excellent OpEd.

And, as I am from Missouri, I was particularly interested because we have our own state Photo Voter ID bill pending in front of our Supreme Court. You can find the OpEd at the URL below.

http://forums.tennessean.com/viewtopic.php?t=4916

I went to the Tennessean to read the article. I also found a place for interactive reader comments, so I posted my viewpoint, and it was like walking into a swarm of Killer Bees.

To cut to the chase, it was as if every Moss-Backed GOP Red Stater had been mailed a set of talking points by Karl Rove himself about Photo Voter IDs! I see it at the Tennessean and I saw it here at DU when HR 4844 was brought up.

Same old points.

We just MUST pass a Photo Voter ID bill, or every single illegal alien will sneak in to our polls (risking life, limb, and incarceration) to vote Democratic!!

And, if a person doesn't think about it twice, Photo ID seems to makes sense (as in "Why not ??").

That is, until you understand that there are about 13 million currently registered and voting Americans (mostly Democrats) who would lose their ability to ever vote again.

Now this thread reveals the Real Truth. The "Voter Fraud" is being done by the GOP!

Anyway, all of you who will discuss this over the next two years (and you will) are going to to hear the same old lies from the GOP. Find some of them at the URL below, FYI, at the Tennessean's own "Tennessee Pissing Match".


http://forums.tennessean.com/viewtopic.php?t=4916&postdays=0&postorder=desc&start=0&sid=21100a1ac423ad706958b8400e17d2a4

Please note that yours truly, Galloglas, NEVER gets a straight answer from any one of these phony posters.

[ProgressiveEconomist]

13. Great post, galloglas. The "Voter ID" issue is SO confusing.

This thread increases my grudging admiration for the evil genius of Jim Baker, whose idea HR4844 was.

While people are arguing over how to stop nonexistent or very limited RETAIL vote fraud, the GOP is potentially benefiting WHOLESALE, to the tune of MILLIONS of votes that may be prevented by "Voter ID" starting in 2008.

With the decline in their suppport from white evangelicals, IMO the Republicans are going to become more and more dependent on ingenious disfranchisement schemes like "Voter ID" to stay in power.