I don't buy the drunk losing inhibitions story, and here's why....

[originalpckelly]

In one of those instant messages, one of the teens from 2003 goes away because his mother yells at him. When he returns Mr. Foley asks whether the teens mother saw any of the messages. And there we have it folks, Mr. Foley was in a state of mind that he was aware what he was doing was wrong. If he was so drunk he lost his inhibitions then he should not have been aware of the taboo nature of what he was doing with the young man. If Mr. Foley is ever prosecuted in a court of law, this defense of being intoxicated at the time would not excuse him from his conduct anyway, but his words in that particular instant message indicate he had an understanding of right and wrong and specifically that his chat with the teen was taboo, that will mitigate any defense along those lines.

[originalpckelly]

1. I also highly doubt someone so intoxicated...

they lose their inhibitions would be able to type at all. Someone should test this just to see if it is possible.

[habitual]

8. k, after extensive testing

i have determined that it is possible. I may be a bad judge tho, i found that after getting drunk i am also still able to juggle 5 balls for over a minute....

[Epiphany4z]

2. its all Bull

he was in a position of power feeling like nothing could touch him ..he took advantage and now he is not even man enough to stand up and take responsibly. I was molested, I was drunk...waaaa waaaa waaaaa...has he said he was sorry? is he worried about the effect his actions may have had on his victims? NO all he is worried about is that his ass doesn't end up in jail where he can play the part of the page..self serving crap that is all he has. He is so typical of republicans...responsibitly is for everyone but them.

its the booze, its the dems, it was the church, I'm gay, aliens abducted me and used an anal probe!!!!

He is not the victim he is the perp........

[originalpckelly]

4. Oh I know...

but I was focusing mainly on his possible legal defense for a court case. He did not have an impaired sense of right and wrong when he sent that IM. That is the smoking gun.

[BR_Parkway]

15. LOL - The Party of Personal Responsibility - they're always the

first to blame alcohol, drugs, lesbian wife, Dems, Gawd, homos or liberal media for each and everyone of their failures.

[myrna minx]

3. So was he drunk on the floor of Congress, too?

Since some of his instant messaging was going on during a vote, and if that is one of his numerous excuses, that must mean that he was drunk while voting in Congress. :eyes:

[originalpckelly]

5. Yep, that is another hole in this story.(nt)

[mod mom]

7. exactly. Also, I hope someone is looking into the allegations he was

sexually abused when he was 13 + 14. (ie looking at the parish he attended and seeing if others came forward)

[DaveJ]

6. Nice observation...

Unfortunately we can't control the trial except by donating money toward his prosecution, but I'm sure the page's family also have plenty of resources. If anything the parents may need some convincing (I'm thinking of the Republican campaign donors with sons that were pages) that prosecuting or suing the guy is the right thing to do. I'm sure he sidetracked some fledgling careers and perhaps a few dynasties.

[Booster]

9. Seems to me his "I was drunk" excuse, damns him even more.

Weren't a lot of these emails done while he was supposed to be working? We got a drunk president and a drunk Congress - that's just great.

[Epiphany4z]

10. Does it matter?

if you are drunk and and you run over a kid your still in legal trouble, if you drunk and steal something you are still a thief, if you are drunk and you beat your wife your are still a wife beater..i really do not care if he has a drinking problem nor should the court.

I doubt he has never had sex with one of these kids....he is such classic predator. It is an abuse of power...I find it hard to believe they are admitting e mails as far back as 2003 and we are to believe he kept it all on line.

take a read over at PERVERTED JUSTICE web site...they don't often keep it only on line for very long.

[originalpckelly]

11. I believe I mentioned that in the OP...

and for the same reasons you said. However, his lawyer might try to use it as a mitigating circumstance so that he receive a shorter sentence/lower fine. That is also the reason we have heard all these other excuses, he is softening up any potential jury. Anything to get him some sympathy and make him less of a predator is what he is putting out there.

[Epiphany4z]

13. ya I know they lawyer will try to use it

I am not disagreeing with you...I just don't think it will get them far it is the text book first excuses these guys use. Anyone who has had to deal with child predators has heard it all before. His excuses are nothing new..nor is his lack of remorse or worry for his victims.

[ellenfl]

14. let him get his sympathy in the slammer. i'm sure there are

plenty of guys there who will be sympathetic to his plight. :sarcasm:

ellen fl

[ellenfl]

12. the drinking and prior abuse (of foley) are red herrings. DO NOT

fall for this crap. the issue is pedophilia. drinking to excess does not make you a pedophile. if it did, there would be a lot more pedophiles in our midst. prior sexual abuse does not excuse it.

ellen fl

[BurtWorm]

16. It's an obviously lame excuse.

He's hiding behind the addiction screen, and it's clearly just another scam.