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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 09:47 PM
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Media uses Foley incident to link homosexuality to pedophilia...
You could see this one coming. The Reich Wing media doing what they do best. Hitler and Goebbels would be jealous:


http://mediamatters.org/items/200610030009

Media conservatives obsess over Foley's sexuality
Summary: In commenting on the scandal involving former Rep. Mark Foley, several conservative media figures and outlets have taken special notice of Foley's reported homosexuality and even linked Foley's sexual orientation to pedophilia.
In commenting on the scandal involving former Rep. Mark Foley (R-FL), who resigned from Congress amid allegations that he sent sexually explicit messages to underage male former pages, NBC News correspondent Mike Viqueira, on the October 2 edition of MSNBC's Hardball, reported that part of Foley's "reputation" was that "in 2003 ... there were some questions raised about his sexual orientation as he was preparing to run for the Senate." Host Chris Matthews agreed that Foley's sexuality was a key component of the scandal, saying: "It is a tricky situation. It has to do with orientation. It has to do with age ... and adult relationships with kids." In making the connection between Foley's homosexuality and his alleged misconduct involving underage male pages, Matthews and Viqueira joined several conservative media figures and outlets that have taken special notice of Foley's reported homosexuality and even linked Foley's sexual orientation to pedophilia.

For example, an October 3 Wall Street Journal editorial attacked "today's politically correct culture" and suggested that "Democratic critics" of House Speaker J. Dennis Hastert (R-IL) are being hypocritical for criticizing him over his handling of the Foley scandal because they aren't saying that "they now have more sympathy for the Boy Scouts decision to ban gay scoutmasters."

From The Wall Street Journal editorial:

But in today's politically correct culture, it's easy to understand how senior Republicans might well have decided they had no grounds to doubt Mr. Foley merely because he was gay and a little too friendly in emails. Some of those liberals now shouting the loudest for Mr. Hastert's head are the same voices who tell us that the larger society must be tolerant of private lifestyle choices, and certainly must never leap to conclusions about gay men and young boys. Are these Democratic critics of Mr. Hastert saying that they now have more sympathy for the Boy Scouts' decision to ban gay scoutmasters? Where's Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi on that one?

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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 09:52 PM
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1. private lifestyle choices .......does not mean that someone
straight or gay can solicit children.....these fucking neocons are shameless...
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 09:54 PM
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2. "these fucking neocons are shameless"
Edited on Tue Oct-03-06 10:26 PM by marmar
When you think they can't go any lower, they find a new depth.
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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 09:54 PM
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3. They're ignorant on at least two counts.
1. Pedophiles aren't more likely to be homosexuals.
2. Pedophilia, according to the body of experts, involves prepubescent children*.

*Don't bother saying that Montel Williams disagrees with the medical definition.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 09:57 PM
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4. I wonder how the Log Cabin GOP will react to this assault on Gays
It's interesting to note that the likes of the female teachers seducing young boys are never mentioned. You think their is an agenda here?
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 09:59 PM
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6. Give them some more tax cuts and they won't even notice this n/t
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 10:04 PM
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10. Yup. I just don't get Log Cabin Republicans....
WHAT has their Party done that's pro-gay? It would be the equivalent of me joining the KKK. I just don't get it! It must be the tax cuts.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 10:35 PM
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14. For this wealthy group of Republicans it is all $$$$$$$$$ n/t
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WorseBeforeBetter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 09:57 PM
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5. And this is what will get the fundies out voting in droves...
on 11/7.

I don't have time to research right now, but isn't there FBI (?) data that shows that pedophiles are most likely to be white heterosexual males of a certain age range - NOT homosexuals? I could have sworn I read that somewhere, but WTF knows any more. I can't keep it all straight. (Pardon the pun!)
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 10:02 PM
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9. There's been too many females committing pedophilia
to sell homosexuals are the cause.

Even the extremist right wingers read papers now and then.
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WorseBeforeBetter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 10:16 PM
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12. I disagree. I think they'll be whipping the extremists...
Edited on Tue Oct-03-06 10:52 PM by TWriterD
into even more of an anti-gay frenzy. I can only imagine what's being "preached" in some of those mega-churches. And "black" churches - didn't Rove have some success (by his warped standards) with older members opposed to gay marriage? They scared the base with gay marriage in 2004; they'll scare them with pedophilia in 2006. Geez, it's like deja vu all over again - 35 days and counting and "gay" may be all we hear about. Well, until OBL releases a tape of some sort.
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countryjake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 12:17 AM
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17. Here try this...Solly Mack found studies...
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hijinx87 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 10:00 PM
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7. I was truly afraid of this

the rethugs invariably play on (ignorant) people's fears.

they will scare their base to the polls. :grr:
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kath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 10:01 PM
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8. yep. Sadly, I think many of us saw this coming a mile away...
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 10:07 PM
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11. Gary Bauer, the short man, is now using hate the gays agenda
to vote GOP. Mary Laterneus's father was a radical right winger.

Sorry, Gary, you won't grow taller by yelling at Gays.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 10:19 PM
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13. He's as big an asshole as there is...
Where do they come from? Is there some kind of sub-human recessive gene some people are born with?
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Greatwildbeast Donating Member (89 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 11:12 PM
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15. Rodeo Song
The following doesn't really relate all that well to the
thread. And it IS a respectable topic. However i thought the
discussion could use a little music. So i found the following
particularly appropriate:


Well here comes Johnny with his pecker in his hand
He's a one ball man and he's off to the rodeo
And it's Alabama left and Alabama right
Come on ya fuckin' dummy get your right step right
Get off the stage god damn goof ya know

Piss me off ya fuckin' jerk get on my nerves
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 11:19 PM
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16. Good, now I have an even better reason to be sematic....
...to bible thumping bigots, fuck those sorry bastards! They want War, Ill give'em War!
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lies and propaganda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 02:06 AM
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18. that WSJ snip war particularly repulsive.
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 04:46 AM
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19. A$$hats
But they never have anything to say about heterosexuality when a man molests underage girls, or a woman molests underage boys. Bloody hypocrites!
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tenshi816 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 05:32 AM
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20. If that's the case, then how are they
going to explain away all the straight people who molest minors? Can it be that heterosexuality leads to pedophilia too?
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 05:48 AM
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21. And another thing...
..Since they want to like homosexuality with pedophile, I think I can link RPUBLICANS with MURDER! War Crimes and Illegal occupattion of 2 countries!
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 07:02 AM
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22. This is making me so angry. Facts be damned.
This MUST be loudly refuted. Bob Shrum did a good job yesterday on Hardball, but where's the rest of the sane world.

There is no correllation between sexual orientation and the propensity to abuse children.

Except in the minds of bigots.
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