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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 06:31 PM
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The Republican House leadership has known about Foley for a year
The page worked for Rep. Rodney Alexander, R-La., who said Friday that when he learned of the e-mail exchanges 10 to 11 months ago, he called the teen's parents. Alexander told the Ruston Daily Leader, "We also notified the House leadership that there might be a potential problem," a reference to the House's Republican leaders.

House Speaker Dennis Hastert said Friday he had asked the chairman of the House's page board, Rep. John Shimkus, R-Ill., to investigate the page system. "We want to make sure that all our pages are safe and the page system is safe," Hastert said.

He said Foley submitted the letter of resignation to Florida Gov. Jeb Bush and submitted a copy to him. A House clerk read Foley's resignation on the House floor.

"He's done the right thing," Hastert said. Asked if the chain of events was disturbing, he said, "None of us are very happy about it."

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2006/0...

http://americablog.blogspot.com/2006/09/house-gop-leade...

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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 06:35 PM
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1. so has hasnt done any more of it during this year while
hastert sat on it?

or is hastert an accomplice to harassment happening during that time. did they implement a way to keep all of the pages insulated from predation as soon as they found out?
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 12:19 AM
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50. Hastert may very well be an accessory after the fact to child sexual abuse
as is anybody ELSE that knew and did not go to law enforcement about it.

Put THAT in your pipes and smoke it, Pukes!
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 06:37 PM
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2. HOUSE REPUBS COVER UP PAGE SEX SCANDAL
That SHOULD be the headline tomorrow. Damn liberal media.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 06:39 PM
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3. The fuggers needed his votes
This should be exposed everywhere
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 10:39 PM
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44. Does give possible explanation for lock step voting...
God knows what they have on each of their own... Those NSA wire taps pay handsome dividends when there are votes on the Hill.

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William Bloode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 06:45 PM
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4. That'd be Roves headline if this was a Dem.
You betcha.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 04:44 PM
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95. No doubt about it
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ProgressiveEconomist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 06:57 PM
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5. That should be at the top of the DU "Greatest" page tonight! PLEASE
repost with that title, if TacticalPeek does not edit the OP so it has that new title.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 07:00 PM
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7. This Thread is Already About The Same Topic, Maybe You Could Ask
The OP to change the title? :shrug:
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populistdriven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 08:49 PM
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28. House Speaker Complicit in Foley Teen Sex Scandal Coverup?
Rep. Mark Foley (R-FL) Resigns over sexually explicit Email's and IM's to 16 year old boy...

Here is one of the sexually explicit instant messages to a 16 year old boy (Foley's screenname is Maf54):
House Speaker Complicit in Foley Teen Sex Scandal Coverup?

The Republican House leadership are monsters. They knew and let him remain in the GOP leadership for a year. They let him remain the Chairman of the child sex offender caucus. Jesus H. Christ.


GOP = Gathering Of Pedophiles

Foley was Chairman of the House Caucus on Missing and Exploited Children
House Speaker Complicit in Foley Teen Sex Scandal Coverup?

The Republican House leadership has known about (and covered up) Foley for a year
Quote:
The page worked for Rep. Rodney Alexander, R-La., who said Friday that when he learned of the e-mail exchanges 10 to 11 months ago, he called the teen's parents. Alexander told the Ruston Daily Leader, "We also notified the House leadership that there might be a potential problem," a reference to the House's Republican leaders.
House Speaker Complicit in Foley Teen Sex Scandal Coverup?
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AIJ Alom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 06:58 PM
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6. Kicked and recommended...Republicans knew of Foley for 1 year and did noth
ing.
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sproutster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 07:03 PM
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8. HOUSE SPEAKER COMPLICIT IN COVERING UP SEX SCANDLE WITH MINORS!!
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ProgressiveEconomist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 07:17 PM
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9. TP: Please change the title of this thread so it will rise faster on the "Greatest"
Edited on Fri Sep-29-06 07:23 PM by ProgressiveEconomist
"Greatest" page. You've found THE MOST TIMELY STORY EVER in my opinion.

I'd suggest something like, HOUSE SPEAKER COMPLICIT IN FOLEY TEEN SEX SCANDAL COVERUP?

IMO, tonight is no time for subtlety. The Republicans may be on the ropes--you may have the makings of a knockout punch if the alternative, then mainstream media frame this story appropriately.
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Chipster Donating Member (139 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 11:52 PM
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46. HOUSE SPEAKER COMPLICIT IN FOLEY TEEN SEX SCANDAL COVERUP?
Foley adds a whole new meaning to "I don't like Bush."

This saga is just beginning. If Hastert knew (and it sounds as though he did), he and others are complicit in covering up the sexual exploitation of a child. Democrats should be seeking a thorough investigation.

"Rep. Rodney Alexander, R-La., who sponsored the page from his district, told reporters that he learned of the e-mails from a reporter some months ago and passed on the information to Rep. Thomas Reynolds, R-N.Y., chairman of the House Republican campaign organization.

Alexander said he did not pursue the matter further because "his parents said they didn't want me to do anything."

Carl Forti, a spokesman for the GOP campaign organization, said Reynolds learned from Alexander that the parents did not want to pursue the matter. Forti said, however, that the matter did go before the House Page Board - the three lawmakers and two House officials who oversee the pages.

It was unclear what the officials did.

The board currently is headed by Rep. John Shimkus, R-Ill., who did not respond to requests for an interview.

House Speaker Dennis Hastert said Friday he had asked Shimkus to investigate the page system. "We want to make sure that all our pages are safe and the page system is safe," Hastert said.

Pages are high school students who attend classes under congressional supervision and work as messengers."

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20060930/D8KET47G0.html

Anyone find it suspicious that it's alleged that parents allowed the abuse, while the teen says his mother isn't computer savvy?

The age of consent in Florida for male-female sex is 18. If the adult is 24 or under, the age of consent is 16. Male-male and female-female sex is illegal in Florida.

http://www.ageofconsent.com/ageofconsent.htm

This is soliciting underage child for sex. It's a crime. Tom Foley should be charged and tried.

"To be designated as a predator, the subject must have been found by the court to be a sexual predator. Florida law requires a written court finding for sexual predator status. Sexual predator designation only applies to sex offenses committed on or after October 1, 1993. In addition, the subject must have been convicted of either one first-degree felony sex crime, or two second degree felony sex crimes. In the latter situation, the second offense must occur within 10 years of the previous offense, conviction, or release from the sanction of the court, whichever is later."

http://offender.fdle.state.fl.us/offender/FAQ.htm

"10. A Member of the House of Representatives who has been convicted by a court of record for the commission of a crime for which a sentence of two or more years' imprisonment may be imposed should refrain from participation in the business of each committee of which he is a member and should refrain from voting on any question at a meeting of the House, or of the Committee of the Whole House, unless or until judicial or executive proceedings result in reinstatement of the presumption of his innocence or until he is reelected to the House after the date of such conviction."

http://www.house.gov/ethics/Ethicforward.html

This young man was also subjected to sexual harassment in the workplace.

CODE OF ETHICS FOR GOVERNMENT SERVICE

Any person in Government service should:

1. Put loyalty to the highest moral principals and to country above loyalty to Government persons, party, or department.

2. Uphold the Constitution, laws, and legal regulations of the United States and of all governments therein and never be a party to their evasion.

3. Give a full day's labor for a full day's pay; giving to the performance of his duties his earnest effort and best thought.

4. Seek to find and employ more efficient and economical ways of getting tasks accomplished.

5. Never discriminate unfairly by the dispensing of special favors or privileges to anyone, whether for remuneration or not; and never accept for himself or his family, favors or benefits under circumstances which might be construed by reasonable persons as influencing the performance of his governmental duties.

6. Make no private promises of any kind binding upon the duties of office, since a Government employee has no private word which can be binding on public duty.

7. Engage in no business with the Government, either directly or indirectly which is inconsistent with the conscientious performance of his governmental duties.

8. Never use any information coming to him confidentially in the performance of governmental duties as a means for making private profit.

9. Expose corruption wherever discovered.

10. Uphold these principles, ever conscious that public office is a public trust.

(Passed July 11, 1958.)

http://www.house.gov/ethics/Ethicforward.html

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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 07:26 PM
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10. Oopsy.
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Peanutcat Donating Member (492 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 07:37 PM
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11. What is it about conservative and minor boys?
Hmmmmmmmmm?
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mcg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 07:56 PM
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12. So the GOP (Grand Old Perverts) is harboring pedophiles.
From the Heritage Baptist Church 'God and Country' web page:

http://www.heritagebaptistpsl.com/gpage1.html



Mark Foley, Caleb and Timothy

Mark Foley takes some time to interact with our children. Here he poses for a picture with Caleb DeBerry and Timothy Parker.


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Generic Brad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 08:23 PM
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19. Grabby Old Perverts
Seems more apropos.
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Generic Brad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 08:23 PM
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20. Grabby Old Perverts
Seems more apropos.
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mcg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 08:40 PM
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24. Grabby Old Perverts, Gross Old Perverts, Greedy Old Perverts
Yes, that's more like it, there is nothing grand about them.
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LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 11:57 PM
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47. G.rope O.our P.ages
How 'bout this one? :D
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 12:21 AM
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52. He probably got a boner getting to touch those little boys.............
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 08:04 AM
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71. You can e-mail the pastor at pastdowns@aol.com.
Strangely, the e-mail address on the linked page does not work. An e-mail to the AOL address seems to get through - hasn't bounced yet, anyway.
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 12:45 PM
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86. God's Own Pedophiles -- since they're all hypocritical Bible-thumpers. nt
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VPStoltz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 08:02 PM
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13. That reminds me of the Jim West thing here in WA.
After his dilly dally was exposed, Pam Roach - a Republican, need I say more - claimed West approached her and made a compromising statement to her about her son who was serving as a page in state house at the time. Apparently she, as did all the party members, knew of his reputation. As we know, they'll put up with the mightiestly stinking scum to hold office.

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mhatrw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 08:09 PM
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14. Who do these Republicans they think they are -- the Catholic Church?
;-) I'm Catholic, so I can say that.
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ProgressiveEconomist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 08:15 PM
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15. Five EXCELLENT QUESTIONS for Speaker Hastert, from the link
Edited on Fri Sep-29-06 08:17 PM by ProgressiveEconomist
to AmericaBlog in the OP ( http://americablog.blogspot.com/2006/09/house-gop-leade... ):

"(1) why did Republican House Speaker Denny Hastert permit Foley to remain in the House GOP leadership for almost a year after they knew he was having sex talk with minors online, minors he met on the job?

(2) Why did Republican House Speaker Denny Hastert leave Foley as the co-chair of the House body in charge of child sex offenses for a good year after they knew?

(3) Why did Republican House Speaker Denny Hastert permit Foley to stay in the House at all, where he would be around other pages every day all day long?

(4) And just as importantly, why did Republican House Speaker Denny Hastert let Foley lie publicly yesterday about the emails, claiming they were innocent, and simply a dirty attack from the Democrats, when the House leadership knew the real story?

(5) And finally, we find out that the FBI was contacted two months about this story. Was there any follow-up from the Bush FBI? Or did they just let this potential case of child sex offense go by the wayside because it involved a friend of Bush?"
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colorado_ufo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 10:37 AM
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77. Excellent post.
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AIJ Alom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 08:17 PM
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16. Hmmm....Spence, male prostitutes, Johnny Gosch, and Republican sex scandal
of the 1980's comes to mind....Somethings though, never change in Washington.
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Blue Gardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 02:20 PM
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89. One of the first things I thought of
The Johnny Gosch story connection about teenage male prostitutes touring the White House after hours. These people are just sick bastards.
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mcg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 08:21 PM
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17. Foley on Sex Offender Bill

http://www.house.gov/list/press/fl16_foley/060905SOBILL...

"Sex offenders are not petty criminals. They prey on our children like animals and will continue to do it unless stopped."

- Mark Foley testifying on June 9, 2005 before the
House Judiciary Committe


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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 12:23 AM
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53. Well I guess he'd be the one to know about that, huh?
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 08:09 AM
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73. Right up his alley.
:evilgrin:
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populistdriven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 08:22 PM
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18. House Speaker Complicit in Foley Teen Sex Scandal Coverup?
Rep. Mark Foley (R-FL) Resigns over sexually explicit Email's and IM's to 16 year old boy...

Here is one of the sexually explicit instant messages to a 16 year old boy (Foley's screenname is Maf54):
House Speaker Complicit in Foley Teen Sex Scandal Coverup?

The Republican House leadership are monsters. They knew and let him remain in the GOP leadership for a year. They let him remain the Chairman of the child sex offender caucus. Jesus H. Christ.


GOP = Gathering Of Pedophiles

Foley was Chairman of the House Caucus on Missing and Exploited Children
House Speaker Complicit in Foley Teen Sex Scandal Coverup?

The Republican House leadership has known about (and covered up) Foley for a year
Quote:
The page worked for Rep. Rodney Alexander, R-La., who said Friday that when he learned of the e-mail exchanges 10 to 11 months ago, he called the teen's parents. Alexander told the Ruston Daily Leader, "We also notified the House leadership that there might be a potential problem," a reference to the House's Republican leaders.
House Speaker Complicit in Foley Teen Sex Scandal Coverup?
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 08:27 PM
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21. "None of us are very happy" implies some of them are somewhat happy. n/t
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 08:30 PM
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22. oh my goodness...hastert and shimkus knew this was happening!
not that it will hurt fat boys reelection here in the 14th. to bad Rahm Emanuel did`t care if hastret was reelected.
two sleaze bag illinois republicans...jesus there are a lot of outstanding illinois republicans who are turning over in their graves.
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 08:32 PM
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23. So their only concern was political
Where was the concern about this freak running loose? Where was the concern for the law? Protecting children?

House leadership notified there might be a problem... Whew boy. The fun just never stops with them, does it?
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lies and propaganda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 08:42 PM
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25. thats fucking sick.
i thought this timeline was current, which means that fuck would have never resigned had this not gotten whatever push it got ten months later.

But remember their pro life, and pro women and children, and blah blah blah.
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BurgherHoldtheLies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 08:43 PM
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26. MEMO: "Foley determined to strike in the US (Congress)
Ignored by the Repug leadership. Hmmm, seems to be a theme.....
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lies and propaganda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 03:16 PM
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92. LOL!
they obviously paid as much attention to that memo.
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mhatrw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 08:45 PM
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Gross Old Perverts. n/t
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mcg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 08:51 PM
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29. Gang Of Pedophiles. n/t
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fearnobush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 11:23 AM
Response to Reply #29
80. The Repedophile Party - Reboylickans
Does the US M$M really wanna go with The Repedophile Party.

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johnnyrocket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 08:45 PM
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27. Can you say 'Catholic priest'!? This looks bad for Hastert....
...I'm talking resiging, lawsuits, JAIL!!!


This is American politics, now that it's about sex, it's bigtime!
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mcg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 08:52 PM
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31. Is Hastert guilty of obstruction of justice?
Good question I think.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 12:25 AM
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54. He and those who knew are accessories after the fact to child
sexual abuse, IMHO. I get the funny feeling that's no misdemeanor.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 08:52 PM
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30. EVERY independent newspaper in AMERICA
needs to run this on the side of the story of him resigning on the front page

"TOP REPUBLICANS COVERED UP FOLEY'S CRIMES"


So, how many papers are we going to see this in?




This is SHOCKING, to know that they KNEW and they LEFT HIM ON THAT CHILD PROTECTION COMMITTEE IS BEYOND DISTURBING!

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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 03:25 AM
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62. Start e-mailing them.
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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 08:57 PM
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32. It seems to me that the whole damned able bunch of them is
guilty of harboring and aiding and abetting a felon! Why is there no talk of criminal investigations of who knew what when? Monica's blue dress is looking more damned frivolous about now huh? :grr:
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 09:13 PM
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33. Clinton should go on Olbermann tomorrow
and say, "at least I wasn't trying to bugger young boys in the page program"

but seriously, I AGREE 100%

how is HASTERT and anyone else who knew not GUILTY of covering up a crime? Foley at the LEAST was leading to the delinquency of a minor with his sexual talk about their jock strap, wanting to know if the boy was horny, and how he masturbated (in detail). Did Hastert know the exact details, along with Rodney whatshisface, the Congressman in LA???

Did the family feel it was RIGHT (!!!!) to allow Foley on in the Congress and say nothing? Are they Republican?




SHOULD I SEND THIS LETTER TO HASTERT?

Very upset you knew about Foley sickly saying these things to corrupt these young boys' and whatever else he did with his POWER (hate to wonder now!) over the young pages below him in the Congress.

Why were you complicit in covering up a scandal? How's there any justice in you keeping Rep. Mark Foley on in his duties after you knew he was trying to bugger young boys in the page program? This is quite disturbing to hear about. WHY WASN'T THIS PERVERT ASKED TO RESIGN OR FACE CHARGES? WAS IT BECAUSE OF HIS NEEDED VOTES? WHO CARES, YOU SHOULD'VE CAME DOWN HARD ON IT THEN.

Wasn't he on the committee protecting kids on the internet of ALL things?

Very sad. What a horrible decision, Speaker Hastert. This makes many people question why you would be complicit with allowing him to stay in his congressional seat.
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 03:34 AM
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63. Send it as an open letter to newspapers also.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 11:21 AM
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79. good idea n/t
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erpowers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 09:21 PM
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34. More Republican Hypocrisy
These are the same people who criticized the media for not doing enough to get out the Clinton-intern story. Now they sat on the fact that one of their people was writing sexually suggestive letters to teenage boys. At least Monica Lewinsky was an adult.
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nevergiveup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 09:31 PM
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35. Maybe some of the Democratic Leadership
will now acknowledge John Laesch, who is running against Hastert. It is a disgrace how they have ignored him here in Illinois 14. Because of Hastert's crooked land deal he has already lost favor among many in his flock and this new scandal could cook his goose.
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ProgressiveEconomist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 09:41 PM
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38. Is Laesch ready to go THIS negative on Hastert? Where do I send my $$?
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mcg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 09:40 PM
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36. Foley still co-chairman of Missing and Exploited Children Caucus - 7/21/06
The following shows the Mark Foley was still co-chairman of the
Missing and Exploited Children Caucus on 7/21/2006:

http://www.house.gov/apps/list/press/fl16_foley/072106s...

The FBI received a complaint two months ago.

When did Foley stop being co-chairman of this caucus?



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danhan Donating Member (59 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 09:41 PM
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37. This is f___ed up!
It is disgusting that the republican leadership sat on this in the hopes of maintaining a seat and was willing to potentially put others at risk in the process for political gain.

It is equally disgusting if any democrats knew and sat on it waiting to release it at the "right time" potentially putting others at risk in the process for political gain.

Unfuckingbelievable.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 12:28 AM
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55. You seem to think Dems have some sort of power or influence in DC.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Hastert and the REPUBLICAN leadership knew. For a year. It was THEIR responsibility to speak up. They kept the only Dem on the page board in the dark. Dems aren't f---ing psychics.

Welcome to DU. Enjoy your stay.
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 10:07 PM
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39. The story changes. . . Everybody's running for cover. - TPM
(September 29, 2006 -- 10:11 PM EDT)

The story changes. Did Rep. Alexander (R-LA) report Rep. Foley (R-FL) to the NRCC, the House Republican campaign committee?

An NRCC spokesman says the matter was brought before the House Page Board. But it's not clear what they did about it.

Everybody's running for cover.


-- Josh Marshall

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/010055.php

http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/001644.php

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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 03:23 AM
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61. Right! Why was this reported to the HouseRepublican campaign committe?
Edited on Sat Sep-30-06 03:47 AM by mom cat
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 10:10 PM
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40. Republican child abusers and perverts abound
It takes a pervert to be a republican, and if you torture them, with
electrical current to the genetals, they will become aroused for
more nobbing of children.

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williesgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 10:33 PM
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41. They were waiting til Nov 8th when they could appoint his replacement
SCUMBAGS, CORRUPT BASTARDS. No one is safe from their greed.
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 10:36 PM
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42. That's nothing short of criminal negligence...
Dems in Congress should be demanding the page's boss, and Dennis Hastert's immediate resignations.

Family Values Party, my ass!
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williesgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 10:38 PM
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43. As of 11:37 est, still no mention of GOP knowledge on WP,CNN,MSNBC pages
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 11:20 PM
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45. It's up in the WP now-
Rep. Foley Quits In Page Scandal
Explicit Online Notes Sent to Boy, 16

By Charles Babington and Jonathan Weisman
Washington Post Staff Writers
Saturday, September 30, 2006; Page A01
snip>
House Majority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio) told The Washington Post last night that he had learned this spring of some "contact" between Foley and a 16-year-old page. Boehner said he told House Speaker J. Dennis Hastert (R-Ill.), and that Hastert assured him "we're taking care of it."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/20...
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ProgressiveEconomist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 12:16 AM
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49. Who is Boehner's Democratic opponent in 38 days? Hastert's is
military vet John Laesch, website http://john06.com ..

Also, who are the opponents for the other House leasers:

Blunt (R-Mo),
Boehner (R-OH), etc.

And who's running against Alexander (R-La)?

Remember, Democrats need a net turnover of 15 seats currently held by Republicans.
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 03:46 AM
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64. And what about Rep Thomas Reynolds, R-NY?
_The congressional sponsor of the page, Rep. Rodney Alexander, R-La., said he was asked by the youth's parents not to pursue the matter, so he dropped it.


_Alexander said that before deciding to end his involvement, he passed on what he knew to the chairman of the House Republican campaign organization, Rep. Thomas Reynolds, R-N.Y. Reynolds' spokesman, Carl Forti, said the campaign chairman also took no action in deference to the parents' wishes.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2006/0...
And why did this go to Reynolds chairman of the House Repub campaign organization?
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ProgressiveEconomist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 07:28 PM
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98. Oops! Good catch! And, like Alexander(LA), Shimkus(IL), Boehner(OH), and
Hastert(OH), Reynolds(NY) represents a state where the Governor is likely to be a Democrat next year.

I recently realized that even the most furious media frenzy might take more than 38 days to build up a head of steam strong enough to have "resignation" on the lips of all the talking heads in the MSM. Any Republican worth his or her salt ought to be able to stonewall longer than that.

But, even if they are re-elected, should an Ethics Committee or Special Counsel report lead to their resignations, IIRC Governors will have much say in picking interim US Reps until the 2008 election or a Special Election. And all those governors are very likely to be Democrats!

Blanco's (LA) 4-year term began just three years ago;

Blagojevich (IL) leads Topinka by 10 points ( http://www.belleville.com/mld/belleville/news/state/156... );

Stickland (OH) leads Blackwell by 12 points ( http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/200... ); and

Spitzer (NY) leads Faso 72% - 21% ( http://www.newyorkbusiness.com/news.cms?id=14769 ), which would be the largest margin EVER in NY State!

The kinds of candidates parties put up against shoo-ins like the House leaders and most other incumbents tend to be "sacrificial lambs", political neophytes filling out their resumes. But all the Democratic opponents of these incumbents might have to do to help swing control of the House to Pelosi is show up! They might get lucky and win seats in DC their first times out. But even if they don't, they may be able to precipitate local media frenzies that will empower Democratic governors to appoint successors. Of course chances are Governors would choose Democrats other than those who ran and lost. Bad for them, but still good for Democrats!

See http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph... for a lot more on this topic.
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dicknbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 12:14 AM
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48. WHY DID HOUSE REPUBLICAN LEADERSHIP APPOINT A PEODOPHILE
TO BE CHAIRMAN OF THE HOUSE CAUCUS ON EXPLOITED CHILDREN?

REPEAT THIS PHRASE UNTIL NOVEMBER!!!

WHY DID THE HOUSE REPUBLICAN LEADERSHIP ALLOW A PEODOPHILE TO BE CHAIRMAN ON EXPLOITED CHILDREN
'
WHY DID HOUSE REPUBLICAN LEADERSHIP KNOWINGLY ALLOW A PEODOPHILE TO BE CHAIRMAN OF THE HOUSE CAUCUS ON EXPLOITED CHILDREN

RAM THIS DOWN THE THROATS OF THE AMERICAN VOTING PUBLIC ESPECIALLY THE RIGHT WINGED CHRISTERS UNTIL NOVEMBER! ram it down their thoats ram it down their throats.
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dicknbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 12:19 AM
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51. this is a very simple easy and clear event for the average guy to .....
voter to grasp and Vote on:

WHY DID THE REPUBLICAN LEADERSHIP "KNOWINGLY" SLLOW A PEODOPHILE TO BE CHAIRMAN OF THE HOUSE CAUCUS ON ABUSED AND EXPLOITED CHILDREN?????

WHY DID THE HOUSE REPUBLICAN LEADERSHIP (DENNIS HSTERT AND BONNER) "KNOWINGLY" ALLOW A PEODOPHILE TO BE CHAIRMAN OF THE HOUSE CAUCUS ON EXPLOITED CHILDREN?????

RAM THIS DOWN ERVERY SWCUM BAG REPUBLICANS THROAT UNTIL NOVEMBER.

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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 03:20 AM
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60. They brushed off the report.
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The Wizard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 05:26 AM
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67. Boner
only has one N. Yes it's pronounced BONER, not BAYNER. Who whould vote for a guy named BONER anyway? Maybe Jeff Gannon, Mitch McConnell, Orin Hatch, Ken Mehlman, Mark Foley, David Drier, J. Edgar Hoover, you know, guys like that.
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 08:07 AM
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72. My ex-wife was named Boner. I should have known!
She has a gay brother who legally changed his name to Bonner.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 11:45 AM
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83. ask and you shall receive
a jpg to send to everyone anonymously or directly, or a sticker...

I think this is HUUUUUGGGGGE. Why would they do that?? Was he protecting all the perverts in Congress in his role, or WHAT? Hastert acted like he didn't know ANYTHING in his appearance yesterday from what I saw. I might have missed him talking about last year, but I didn't see it!

This is HORRIBLE!


www.cafepress.com/warisprofitable <<-- antibush prodem stickers/shirt
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 01:18 AM
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56. reminds me of the old joke- "why don't congressmen use bookmarks?"
"because they like their pages bent over :silly:

sorry, had to do that :P

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 01:21 AM
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 01:22 AM
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58. Maybe this is how they get the Repukes to vote in lockstep.
Maybe Hastert has some dirt on all of them, and waves it over their heads like a club. But then Hastert is pretty dirty himself.
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 03:18 AM
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59. Hastart must go!
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StrictlyRockers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 04:06 AM
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65. This guy was chairman of the Missing and Exploited Children's Caucus?
Amazing. My irony meter is going of the Richter scale.

"Foley, as chairman of the Missing and Exploited Children's Caucus, had introduced legislation in July to protect children from exploitation by adults over the Internet. He also sponsored other legislation designed to protect minors from abuse and neglect."

It does not get much beter (worse) than that.

SR
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The Wizard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 05:28 AM
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68. But who better
could find missing exploited children than a child stalker?
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AIJ Alom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 04:29 AM
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66. Additional knowledge implicating House Leadership and failure to alert the
Democrat on the House page system a year ago can be found in this post.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
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pecwae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 06:50 AM
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70. Thanks I was just gong to post that.
small snippet from: www.rollcall.com/issues/1_1/breakingnews/15259-1.html

Rep. Dale Kildee (D-Mich.), who serves on the page board, was never told of the interview with Foley.

"I became aware of it this afternoon when came by my office. I think we should have had a page meeting right away," Kildee said, referring to last year's discovery of Foley's e-mails.

When asked if was upset about being excluded, Kildee said yes, adding, "I've been on the page board for 20 years."
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Sherman A1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 06:35 AM
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69. To have done something about him earlier might
have interfered with their "Heavy" workload. What was their schedule like this year, some 93 days I heard on CNN yesterday.. Come on now these guys are soooooo busy.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 08:10 AM
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74. But, but but
Jeb Bush wason CNN saying he only heard about it from the AP report yesterday :sarcasm:
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 08:58 AM
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75. Hastert should do the honorable thing and resign!
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Lurking Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 09:05 AM
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76. Sorry.
I got as far as Hastert should do the honerable thing and was overcome by uncontrollable laughter.

Alas.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 11:14 AM
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78. kick
.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 11:38 AM
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81. A blast from the past
Congress sees through party-colored glasses

By BILL ADAIR

St. Petersburg Times, published September 12, 1998

WASHINGTON -- For more than a week, members of Congress said they would avoid partisan politics when they got Kenneth Starr's report on President Clinton. But when they finally saw it Friday, they split along party lines.
http://www.sptimes.com/Worldandnation/91298/Congress_se...
Republicans were aghast at Clinton's behavior, with many saying it showed he had lied and abused his power.

"It's vile," said Rep. Mark Foley, R-West Palm Beach. "It's more sad than anything else, to see someone with such potential throw it all down the drain because of a sexual addiction."
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 11:40 AM
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82. Hastert: "None of us are very happy about it." (Folie)
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 11:54 AM
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84. SLEAZE! n/t
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sce56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 12:43 PM
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85. It is the repugPEDOPHILElican way
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huskerco Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 01:31 PM
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87. This is not an isolated incident.
Republicans have a history of showing young boys the White House.

http://www.thelawparty.org/FranklinCoverup/franklin.htm
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huskerco Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 01:48 PM
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88. NBC Dateline
I wonder if Chris Hansen from NBC Dateline - To Catch a Predator - is going to interview Foley?
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Blue Gardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 02:23 PM
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90. Welcome to DU huskerco
Did you see Chris Hansen on Oprah the other day? She's on a mission to track down pedophiles. I would love to hear what she has to say about this.
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No DUplicitous DUpe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 03:01 PM
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91. Holy Fvcking Sh*t Storm, Batman.
I mean Dennis
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Monkeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 04:37 PM
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93. You guys can help defeat this ugly person Hastert
Go here if you can help

www.john06.com
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classysassy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 04:38 PM
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94. Rush to the rescue
Limbaugh where art thou brother,one of your boys got caught,defend the bastard?,bet my last peso you want hear a thing about this scandel on Limbaughs lewd,news.
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LuckyLib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 05:38 PM
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96. I'm a parent of a teen. Is it me? Even a whiff of this shit, and I'm
yanking my kid OUT OF THERE, demanding a meeting with House leadership to out the offender, and not threatening, but actually taking it to the press. Big time. I'd like to think my kid would tell me about such sleazy rumors. And if he was IMing with this dog? my Mom claws would be out in full force!
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 06:35 PM
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97. Absolutely.
But they were probably Republicans themselves. A lot of Republicans are brainwashed enough to let their kids be used as camnnon fodder in Bush's war of lies. So what's a little child exploitation, if it's in the best interest of the GOP?
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jslsingleton Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 12:32 AM
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99. "The fish rots from the head down."
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jslsingleton Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 04:47 AM
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101. More Republican sex scandals
Edited on Sun Oct-01-06 04:50 AM by jslsingleton
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ProgressiveEconomist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 12:40 AM
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100. Hastert's Democratic opponent posts on dKos, demanding DH resign; 374
replies so far!

See also http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph... for links to the Democratic opponents of the other Republicans most vulnerable in the House Teen Page Sex Scandal Coverup.

From http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/9/30/212758/946 :

"Response to Hastert/Foley Pagegate Scandal, by John Laesch

Sat Sep 30, 2006 at 06:27:57 PM PDT

This is John Laesch, the Democratic candidate running against Dennis Hastert. Our campaign office reports that the phone has not stopped ringing all day and the Inbox on our e-mail account is exploding. We know that Dennis Hastert has been the "cover-up" guy for everything that is wrong in Washington. Hastert has been cleaning up messes all the way from this Wednesday's "get out of jail free" detainee bill that he gave to George Bush to gutting house ethics rules after Tom DeLay was indicted.

I am currently working with Danny Stover who is running against Shimkus in Illinois' 19th District ... This morning we held a press conference in St. Charles, IL and I basically said that it is time for Dennis Hastert to resign. If he does not do the honorable thing then voters should fire him on Nov. 7th. I started my speech with some of Hastert's own words from a 1998 press conference. "Even though our children may be at home with the doors locked," "that doesn't mean that they are safe. We must continue to be proactive in warding off pedophiles and other creeps who want to take advantage of our children...It's not infringing on liberties, it's about protecting our kids."

Apparently proactive in Washington means waiting 11 months... Exactly one month ago today Dennis Hastert made the front page of the Kane County Chronicle, a local paper, that covered Dennis Hastert's town hall forum on Internet safety. Protecting children is OK for Dennis Hastert when it is earning him votes, but he doesn't give a damn when it is a page working on Capital Hill. The fact that Hastert tried to cover this up is reason enough for him to resign. ..."

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AwakeAtLast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 04:46 PM
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102. Anyone who is even near this scandal should be fired immediately!!!!!
No amnesty whatsoever! The fact that Foley has done his is bad enough, but for other Congresspersons to cover it up is just plain shocking! There should not be one person in this country, Dem or Repub, who would not demand a formal inquiry.

I am soooo outraged! :grr: :grr: :grr:
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