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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 05:32 PM
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How compromised is Bob Woodward?
Is this new book an attempt to get his reputation back? Or is it a distraction. . . (a la Rove's permission to "distance from B*sh" on Iraq?)
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 05:34 PM
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1. Mr Woodward
should always be considered in the context of the unit he has been associated with since the 1960s. His change in position on Bush represents something other than his personal opinion.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 05:36 PM
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2. Exactly
Maybe history is replaying in more ways than one...

:shrug:

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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 05:37 PM
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4. I was thinking
exactly that with the NIE thing. Bush reminded me of a former president who didn't want to give up classified information ... for the good of the country.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 05:36 PM
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3. This makes me wonder...
Did Woodward play nice with bush in order to get this info out?
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 05:41 PM
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7. Interesting question.
I assume that Mr. Woodward may have been closer to some others in the administration, than to Bush. But the president may assume everyone who smiles and nods their head is in his fan club.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 05:39 PM
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5. check. .. . . . . n/t
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 05:40 PM
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6. How About Being Burned
Woodward's nice gig and "reputation" took a big hit when he got dragged into the Plame mess. Someone gave his name to Fitzgerald...and methinks Bob wasn't too happy being viewed as a White House stenographer. Also, the new vogue inside the beltway is second guessing...the "Who Lost Iraq" game has been joined. Payback's a bitch.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 06:01 PM
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8. Not sure about that one. He's probably got his finger to the wind
and watching which way it's blowing today.

I doubt very seriously that any complaints about him being a White House stenographer (which, of course, he IS - one of the WORST order) phase him not. After all, WE in the opposition are not perceived as the money crowd. The money crowd is traditionally the conservatives/republi-CONS/regressives/owners/bosses/elites in whose circles he orbits. He cares what THEY think because they hold his publishing contracts and they can influence his book sales - and as long as he has his precious "access," he doesn't give a rat's ass about anything. It's "access" above all other things. Access to the "in" crowd of the moment is the ONLY thing to him. He doesn't want to bite the hand that feeds.

My guess is that he's watching the wind change, and assuming that it's time to start shifting ever so slightly and hedging his bets. We're coming to the end of the bush years in one way or another - whether we force them to end sooner than two years from now, with IMPEACHMENT, or not. His guru won't be in charge for too much longer, and if he wants to continue with those nice lucrative book contracts and speaking engagements and all those nice invites to be on TV, he's gonna have to cultivate new sugar daddies. So NOW, I suspect, he's starting the maneuvering to position himself as the "objective" reporter we thought he was back during Watergate. If he starts now, he'll be sufficiently well-positioned as a member of the "new" anti-republi-CON "in" crowd when he evidently anticipates it will take over the White House. He's merely protecting his "access" to people, and he knows those to whom he'll have to cozy up in the future are NOT members of this particular power structure.

bob woodshed is loyal to one thing only: bob woodshed - and the greater bank accounts, fame, fortune, and hob-knobbing privileges that make bob woodshed one of the inner-circle elites. He's investing in his own future, assuming that if he tattles on this White House (now that it's down on its luck and he's the fair-weather friend he's always been), he'll improve his reputation with the non-bush establishment. And we'll start trusting him again - and buying his books.

Yeah, sure, bob.

Interesting and MOST instructive as a strategy-assessment tool. If you want to get a better idea of which way the political wind is blowing, watch bob woodshed. Observe whichever way (or WHOEVER) HE'S blowing. He obviously thinks change is in the wind and that the bush machinery is toxic. That's why he's talking outside of school now. I doubt he would have wanted to endanger his access to THIS White House back when he was crouched at bush's feet like a puppy, taking notes for his last two books. Now, I suspect he's decided that access to THIS White House is no longer of as much value, especially since they're on the way down, AND out. He's ready to become somebody else's baby.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 06:20 PM
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9. Well Said...
I totally agree that Woodward is an opportunist. It was good when he was busting Nixon or Casey, but it's always been about him and his status.

He lost me totally with that suck-up job to this regime a couple years ago...and yes, that was definitely putting his finger to the wind and trying to cash in. Now that it's come the other way, he's seeing new opportunities. I just think he's got a score to settle here and wants to establish a different "street cred" and make it seem like he wasn't used by this regime.

Right now I'm not gonna bitch if he makes the rounds for the next week and keeps saying over and over how this regime has screwed up in Iraq. Sure beats the hell out of the GOOP Propaganda show we just went through.

:hi:

Cheers...
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 06:26 PM
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10. Funny that lately I respect John Dean and suspect Bob Woodward
Back during the Nixxxxxxon era, my opinions were reversed.
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 06:28 PM
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11. What's the highest score?
But seriously, Woodwards loyalty is to Woodward's bank account and notoriety. If he can ride on fascist coattails, he will do so (and has). If publishing a little criticism will get his name back in the papers, he will do so.
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