Just on Pakistani News- Pope Being Burnt in Effigy

[JCMach1]

It shouldn't take long to make the US MSM...

Was visiting my Pakistani friends in downtown Sharjah (UAE) and just happened to see... I don't speak much Urdu so I didn't get the words of the report.

[msongs]

1. ain't religion wonderful :-)

if all these christians and muslims would go out and do good things for the human race maybe the world would be a better place.

Msongs
www.msongs.com/political-shirts.htm

[madokie]

4. I'm just glad I'm not one of them

I was raised as a baptist but when I started putting two and two together I decided I wasn't gonna' be no more. If a person wants to or really believes then more power to them. I know where I am going when I die, my ashes will be put in a shallow hole and a tree planted there upon. I like that. my soul, seeing as how it is not a part of me in life then :shrug:

[asjr]

6. Madokie, I like your way of thinking! The Baptist church

I attended in my youth almost ruined my life. I like the idea of planting a tree over your ashes. I told my son I wanted him to build a plywood canoe, put me in it, light a fire and send me down the Tennessee River. He then told me Viking funerals are against the law in this state.

[madokie]

7. and all this time I was worried about being crucified

[Kingshakabobo]

8. Baptists.

I grew up next to a family of them. The father was my first experience with the right-wing mentality. He was a know-it-all anti-tax, anti-seatbelt laws type of guy. He once told me how he busted up the bathroom of a gas station because the owner pissed him off - good christian(coward hypocrite) that he was. I think it was over a political argument.

Somehow, my parents thought it would be a good idea if we would attend vacation bible school with their kids even though we were catholics. I think it was to get us out of the house. Anyway, one of the teachers told us a really gruesome story about some angel/devil? that would come and punish children if they mis-behaved. IIRC, the angel would come and claw your eyes out. It scared the shit out of me for months. I don't think I slept for weeks after that. Nice thing to tell little kids.

[movonne]

2. The pope is a right-wing shill for the bush adm...I really believe

that this adm. had something to do with him becoming pope...probably blackmailing them over all of these court cases with the priests that could break the vatican...

[JCMach1]

3. My Pakistani friends already knew where I stood on this guy!

I agree... right-wing shill

[nadinbrzezinski]

5. I'm not surprsied

but with all this talk of WW III, there seems to be a concerted effort to get it going

[RaleighNCDUer]

9. Geography shaky -- where is Effigy? nt

[DoYouEverWonder]

10. While Ratzi couldn't have imagined anyone would be upset

over his horrid remarks. What's with this guy, did he take excuse lessons from Condi Rice?

[jwirr]

11. *ss's allies are great aren't they?

[genie_weenie]

12. YES! Death to everyone who says

something I don't like!

[AlamoDemoc]

13. reaction from German muslim leader;

Muslim leader says Catholic Church's history also bloodstained
Published: 9/14/2006


BERLIN - The president of Germany's Central Council of Muslims has reacted to the pope's criticism of Islamic radicalism by recalling violent chapters in the history of the Roman Catholic Church, the Sueddeutsche Zeitung reported on Thursday.

"After the bloodstained conversions in South America, the crusades in the Muslim world, the coercion of the Church by Hitler's regime, and even the coining of the phrase 'holy war' by Pope Urban II, I do not think the Church should point a finger at extremist activities in other religions," Aiman Mazyek told the newspaper.

http://www.turkishpress.com/news.asp?id=142152

[Igel]

14. But, you see, he didn't say 'also'.

The bad things in Islam are from extremists; the bad things in Xianity are part of the package.

Pope said that jihad to spread the faith was part of the Islamic package. That's intolerable; Islam is perfect. And to show how peaceful and tolerant they are--when their religion is properly honored and respected as inherently good and superior--they do violent things.

Pope didn't say Islam was violent; he just quoted somebody from 1391, a person who undoubtedly had seen armies working at spreading Islam by the sword, who said such conversaions were wrong. A small part of a large topic. But the imam's don't look at context; they don't care about attribution. There's a rage to be flamed, indignation to be kindled, and riots to be fomented. Must keep the Other truly the subject of xenophobia, and make the congregation feel superior.

The insult is that it's an article of faith that the faith was eagerly adopted by people hungry for the light of Islam. Coercion was never needed or used. At least only few extremists bothered with it. All the contrary accounts are fake. And the standard response isn't to deal with the issue "syn logo", but to resort to counterattacks. Thus perfectly proving the Pope's larger point. Dignity above truth, honor above reason.

It's damned hard to write that kind of parody and make it seem in the least convincing, but these guys parody themselves and their Prophet on a frequent basis. Amazing.