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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 10:05 AM
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Why do Democrats continue to support Bush and torture policies?
Do they do it out of ignorance? Are they too incompetent to be in Congress? How do you explain it and how do we change it??
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http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/15/opinion/15fri1.html?pagewanted=2

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The nation is in this hideous mess because Mr. Bush ignored the advice of people like this when he tried to set up prison camps beyond the reach of the law. It’s hard to believe their warnings will be ignored again, but the signs are ominous. Last week, the military’s top lawyers told the House Armed Services Committee that they strongly opposed the rules of evidence and other due-process clauses in the White House’s bill. The committee just went ahead and passed it anyway. Only eight of the 28 Democratic members had the courage to vote “no.”

Bill Frist, the majority leader, has already introduced the horrible White House bill on the Senate floor. Senators Warner, McCain and Graham have come up with a serious alternative, and they deserve enormous credit for standing up to Mr. Bush’s fearmongering — something many Democrats seem too frightened to do. (It was good to see the Senate Armed Services Committee Democrats join them in rejecting the president’s bill yesterday.)

But their bill still has serious shortcomings, and should not be rushed through Congress in the current atmosphere, which has very little to do with stopping terrorists and everything to do with winning seats in November.

There is no urgency. Mr. Bush could have tried the 14 new inmates of Guantánamo Bay at any time if he had just done it legally. It’s hard to imagine that anyone in the White House is really worried about a swift resolution of their cases. Many members of Congress who succumb to the strong-arming will know, in their hearts, that they were doing the wrong thing out of fear for their political futures. Perhaps the voters will not judge them harshly this fall. But history will.
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 10:14 AM
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1. Because There Are No Consequences Whatsoever
The Clintons got it right - who the hell else are you going to vote for? If incumbent Dems simply raise enough money to keep the Democratic Party's nomination, then stay oh-so-slightly to the left of the Republicans, and never stray to the "left", then you have no choice but to vote for them.

Voting against "terra legislation" might be the correct thing for the Dems to do - but it might piss of some "moderate" righties, and you'll vote for them anyway, because you won't vote for the Republican.

Face it - we're suckers!

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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 11:08 AM
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2. Because They Are Being Blackmailed By the NSA

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democrat_patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 11:14 AM
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3. They want to get re-elected and the current administration

has a HUGE microphone, which they scream from daily. Plus a complicit media.
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