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kerry-is-my-prez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 06:37 PM
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Why aren't we talking about the children being held at Gitmo? (60 of them)
Edited on Thu Sep-14-06 06:45 PM by kerry-is-my-prez
It seems to me that it it a good time to really start really screaming about this since Bush is trying to use this as a "campaign issue." I would have to absolutley be one of the most damning things we could use against BushCo.

I was talking to some wing-nut a the pool and aksed him if he knew that there were children being held at Gitmo and they had been raped and tortured and that one of them had committed suicide. He was shocked and it completely shut him down. He said "I didn't know that - where did you hear that from?" I told him that some of the attorneys for the prisoners there had reported it and also Sy Hersh. I don't think he beleived me and sort of muttered that under his breath.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,941876,00.html
US detains children at Guantanamo Bay

Staff and agencies
Wednesday April 23, 2003
Guardian Unlimited

The US military has admitted that children aged 16 years and younger are among the detainees being interrogated at its prison camp in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. Lieutenant Colonel Barry Johnson, a US military spokesman, yesterday said all the teenagers being held were "captured as active combatants against US forces", and described them as "enemy combatants".

The children, some of whom have been held at Guantanamo for over a year, are imprisoned in separate cells from the adult detainees, Lt Col Johnson said. He would say only that the teenagers are "very few, a very small number" and would not say how old the youngest prisoner is.

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The US military confirmed their presence yesterday after Australia's ABC television reported that children were being held at Guantanamo, the controversial detention centre where prisoners from the war in Afghanistan have been held by the US, in breach of the Geneva conventions, for over a year.

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"That the US sees nothing wrong with holding children at Guantanamo and interrogating them is a shocking indicator of how cavalier the Bush administration has become about respecting human rights," said an Amnesty International spokesman, Alistair Hodgett.

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http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article6492.htm
Seymour Hersh : The US government has videotapes of boys being sodomized at Abu Ghraib prison.

"The worst is the soundtrack of the boys shrieking," the reporter told an ACLU convention last week. Hersh says there was "a massive amount of criminal wrongdoing that was covered up at the highest command out there, and higher."
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http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1001218842
Judge Orders Release of Abu Ghraib Photos
By Greg Mitchell
Published: September 29, 2005 12:45 PM ET

NEW YORK A federal judge ruled today that graphic pictures of detainee abuse at Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison must be released over government claims that they could damage America's image. Last year a Republican senator conceded that they contained scenes of "rape and murder" and Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld said they included acts that were "blatantly sadistic."

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"'The American public needs to understand we're talking about rape and murder here. We're not just talking about giving people a humiliating experience,' Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina told reporters after Rumsfeld testified before the Senate Armed Services Committee. 'We're talking about rape and murder -- and some very serious charges.'

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In the same period, reporter Seymour Hersh, who helped uncover the scandal, said in a speech before an ACLU convention: "Some of the worse that happened that you don't know about, ok? Videos, there are women there. Some of you may have read they were passing letters, communications out to their men ... . The women were passing messages saying 'Please come and kill me, because of what's happened.'

"Basically what happened is that those women who were arrested with young boys/children in cases that have been recorded. The boys were sodomized with the cameras rolling. The worst about all of them is the soundtrack of the boys shrieking that your government has. They are in total terror it's going to come out."

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http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/article620704.ece
The children of Guantanamo Bay
The 'IoS' reveals today that more than 60 of the detainees of the US camp were under 18 at the time of their capture, some as young as 14
By Severin Carrell
Published: 28 May 2006
The notorious US detention camp in Guantanamo Bay has been hit by fresh allegations of human rights abuses, with claims that dozens of children were sent there - some as young as 14 years old.

Lawyers in London estimate that more than 60 detainees held at the terrorists' prison camp were boys under 18 when they were captured



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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 07:35 PM
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1. If we wait long enough, the kids will all turn 18.
:sarcasm:
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kerry-is-my-prez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 07:38 PM
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2. I don't know of ANYONE who wouldn't condemn this (except sickos)
why are we lettting ourselves be beat up by Herr Leader about Gitmo and not bring this up? I don't get it.......
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 07:40 PM
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3. So what happened to those pics?
I knew about the Abu kids, but not the Gitmo kids.

-Hoot
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kerry-is-my-prez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 07:43 PM
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4. and videos.. Buried apparently. The media is barely talking about it
n/t
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 10:09 PM
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5. WTF? Why did *this* sink? n/t
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