****Official PT911 Night 2 Thread****

[JHB]

It's starting, in the Florida classroom, and on the planes

[LSK]

1. and now they went back to 2000

USS Cole bombing

[JHB]

2. Teaser's over

bask to NYC, Oct 2000, ONeil hears about the Cole bombing

[Connie_Corleone]

3. They got the timeline wrong already.

They showed Bush in the classroom BEFORE the first plane hit the tower. He already knew about that plane before he went into the classroom.

Oh, they also showed a fighter jet being scrambled. I don't think that happened until the second plane hit.

[JHB]

4. So much for "observant females"...

The ambassador to Yemen is a real dick, isn't she?

[Crunchy Frog]

8. Was that ambassador another "composite"?

[LSK]

5. Im guessing this is fiction right now?

Dress codes???

Dont offend the local authorities?

[JHB]

7. Time to check the 911 report

Any accuracy about the ambassador to yemen?

[LSK]

12. page 193

She clashed with O'Neill apparently.

But despite the initial tension, the Yemeni and American investigations proceeded.

[Olney Blue]

6. It's Yemini, not Yeeemeni...

Patricia is one tough ambassador to Yemen!

Clinton's photo is in her office.

Is this story true?!!!!!!

[Viva_La_Revolution]

9. I can't watch this tonight.

the acting and camera work are atrocious, and the script is worse even worse!

[Olney Blue]

15. Don't blame you. I'm watching it only so I can fact-check the coverage of

the fall-out. I also have a morbid fascination with the ability of some to LIE.

[LSK]

10. skipped right over the Millenium bombing

Dont want the sheeple knowing we actually stopped a terror threat before Bush.

[JHB]

16. Millenium Bombing was last night

not that any credit was given to the WH

[LSK]

19. I must have dozed off by then

[Crunchy Frog]

11. More of that nasy, nasty Madeliene Albright.

[Olney Blue]

13. Madelaine Albright: "We cannot make peace when we're bombing

Muslims"

She expressed concern that going after the USS Cole attackers would scuttle
Clintons I/P peace efforts. WTF? I don't believe this little nugget, either.

[JHB]

14. Bush launched "an invasion in the last ...months"

Somolia, anyone.

So, just how many lies did that washington scene show?

[Crunchy Frog]

17. Awww, they just had bin Laden right in their sites

and they couldn't get him, all because of the fecklessness of the Clinton administration.:sarcasm:

[LSK]

20. thats like the brazilianth time isnt it???

[Crunchy Frog]

29. But they had him walking around on the screen

'n everything.

[TheDonkey]

18. I'll be watching on the west coast later to see how bush is handled

because Clinton's penis obviously caused all terror in the 1990s, what has our real hero done?

[RockaFowler]

21. Thanks for this

I am watching the Marlins-Mets game. This game is more exciting. Marlins up 9-3 in the 5th

[JHB]

22. Well, here comes the transition...

Let's see how this goes...

[Olney Blue]

23. Shows Bush and Gore giving campaign speeches.

Now, Gore in Congress announcing the Chimperor.

:cry:

[Crunchy Frog]

24. The country has been saved!

Bush just won the election! Now they can go after those terrists properly.

[Olney Blue]

25. Give me a break. Richard Clarke has big crazy eyes talking to Condi.

She kicks him off the committee.

[Raydawg1234]

26. Don't Watch!!!

[JHB]

27. Meeting with condi, the stolen briefcase affair

Who just wants to slap condi?

[JHB]

32. Bushies ignore terrorism, but "political correctness" gets the blame!

n/t

[LSK]

28. Look, its Mrs Palmer playing Rice now

She gets all the "evil" roles.

[Connie_Corleone]

33. And this is the second movie she's played her too. LOL!!

[LSK]

54. what other movie?

[LSK]

30. did the briefcase thing ever happen?

[King_Crimson]

37. It sure did...

it led to O'Neill's leaving the agency and going to work for security at the WTC....where he meets his demise! O'Neill was "The Man Who Knew Too Much"!

[kerry-is-my-prez]

31. Is Bush Pretzeldent Yet - In the movie, I mean

n/t

[Connie_Corleone]

34. Unfortunately, yes.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

35. It looks like this is negative about BushCo now, isn't it?

n/t

[senseandsensibility]

38. Is it really negative?

How so? Details, please.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

40. John O'Neill is po'd at them for not cooperating or paying attention

n/t

[kerry-is-my-prez]

42. Some cop just told them that they are supposed to be "nice" to Saudis

n/t

[JHB]

41. Weakly...

So far Condi comes off bad, but the Heros blame "politcal correctness", not disinterest by the Bushies.

[Olney Blue]

36. Yes, after all, this is fiction.

[JHB]

39. Nothing about the trials of the Embassy bombers

If we're up to July 2001 that should have happened.

A victim of "condensation", no doubt.

[tlsmith1963]

43. Hey, Wait a Minute...

I heard somewhere that the second part of the 9/11 film was postponed until Saturday. The Chargers game will air instead. Is this just for San Diego then?

Tammy

[Connie_Corleone]

45. It must be because nationally, the game is on ESPN.

[Olney Blue]

46. It's on here in D.C. area. Wonder if they will take a break for the

Pretzeldential speech.

[doublethink]

59. Yea just looked it up in San Diego ..

seems abc is showing the Raider/Charger game tonight along with ESPN out here ..... and that's just fine with me! This PT911 thingy getting pre-empted while I'm down here in Diego is awesome. Peace. :)

[Connie_Corleone]

44. This is about the third time they're trying to make the case for

racial profiling.

[LSK]

47. BAM- Attack on the FISA court right there

They denied the request.

[Crunchy Frog]

48. Now we see that it's all FISA's fault.

Thanks for clearing that up.

[Connie_Corleone]

49. Any fact-checkers know about FISA request being denied for

Moussaoui's computer??

It seems to me if you have reasonable suspicion of illegal activity, you can get a search warrant easily.

[LSK]

50. from the 9/11 Report - FISA did not deny it, the FBI didnt take it to them

The FBI agent who handled the case in conjunction with the INS representative on the Minneapolis Joint Terrorism Task Force suspected that Moussaoui might be planning to hijack a plane. Minneapolis and FBI headquarters debated whether Moussaoui should be arrested immediately or surveilled to obtain additional information. Because it was not clear whether Moussaoui could be imprisoned, the FBI case agent decided the most important thing was to prevent Moussaoui from obtaining any further training that he could use to carry out a potential attack.92

As a French national who had overstayed his visa, Moussaoui could be detained immediately. The INS arrested Moussaoui on the immigration violation. A deportation order was signed on August 17, 2001.93

The agents in Minnesota were concerned that the U.S. Attorney's Office in Minneapolis would find insufficient probable cause of a crime to obtain a criminal warrant to search Moussaoui's laptop computer.94 Agents at FBI headquarters believed there was insufficient probable cause. Minneapolis therefore sought a special warrant under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act to conduct the search (we introduced FISA in chapter 3).

To do so, however, the FBI needed to demonstrate probable cause that Moussaoui was an agent of a foreign power, a demonstration that was not required to obtain a criminal warrant but was a statutory requirement for a FISA warrant.95 The case agent did not have sufficient information to connect Moussaoui to a "foreign power," so he reached out for help, in the United States and overseas.

The FBI agent's August 18 message requested assistance from the FBI legal attaché in Paris. Moussaoui had lived in London, so the Minneapolis agent sought assistance from the legal attaché there as well. By August 24, the Minneapolis agent had also contacted an FBI detailee and a CIA desk officer at the Counterterrorist Center about the case.96

The FBI legal attaché's office in Paris first contacted the French government on August 16 or 17, shortly after speaking to the Minneapolis case agent on the telephone. On August 22 and 27, the French provided information that made a connection between Moussaoui and a rebel leader in Chechnya, Ibn al Khattab. This set off a spirited debate between the Minneapolis Field Office, FBI headquarters, and the CIA as to whether the Chechen rebels and Khattab were sufficiently associated with a terrorist organization to constitute a "foreign power" for purposes of the FISA statute. FBI headquarters did not believe this was good enough, and its National Security Law Unit declined to submit a FISA application.97

After receiving the written request for assistance, the legal attaché in London had promptly forwarded it to his counterparts in the British government, hand-delivering the request on August 21. On August 24, the CIA also sent a cable to London and Paris regarding "subjects involved in suspicious 747 flight training" that described Moussaoui as a possible "suicide hijacker." On August 28, the CIA sent a request for information to a different service of the British government; this communication warned that Moussaoui might be expelled to Britain by the end of August. The FBI office in London raised the matter briefly with British officials as an aside, after a meeting about a more urgent matter on September 3, and sent the British service a written update on September 5. The case was not handled by the British as a priority amid a large number of other terrorist-related inquiries.98

http://www.9-11commission.gov/report/911Report_Ch8.htm

[Crunchy Frog]

51. Oh God!

The fucking asshole is coming on now. I have to go and turn off the sound now. :puke:

[Crunchy Frog]

52. And as I go to turn off the sound, Charles Gibson fellates Bush.

D'you think this would be sufficient grounds to impeach * for getting a blow job?

[Olney Blue]

53. OK, here with go with the nonpolitical speech.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

56. I'll bet that the Freeps have all stopped watching the movie by now.

If they're still watching - they have to see how their little tin god failed them.

[Connie_Corleone]

55. The Supreme Chimp speaketh.

[Olney Blue]

57. OK, its September 10. DU must have had a meltdown.

[Crunchy Frog]

58. Did DU just go down?

I've been stuck watching this awful thing without moral support. :(

[LSK]

69. i think it went hyperactive when Chimpy spoke

[Crunchy Frog]

60. Delete. Dupe

[Connie_Corleone]

61. 80 year old Dick Cheney on the scene. nt

[Olney Blue]

62. Bwahahahaha- kudos to the casting directors!

[Crunchy Frog]

63. Well, that's done.

What a piece of shit. I can't believe I missed KO for that.

Charles Gibson is on now. Says he's going to be discussing the "controversy" later, but I'm through with ABC for good now. Someone else will have to report on that.

[Connie_Corleone]

64. I DVR'd KO.

Now I'm going to watch it!! :headbang:

[gumby]

65. That's it?

What a stinker!!!

There wasn't a mention of all the war games going on that day, was there?

[LSK]

70. one dude asked if it was a test

[ripple]

66. And Bush??????

Why did they show him after the WTC attacks, as though he addressed the nation before the other two planes were hijacked? I know why, but FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, PEOPLE! WHAT THE FUCK??

[gully]

67. I watched the last 15 minutes, and I wonder what the RW will think when

they read that we've not implemented the 911 commission recommendations?

I'm glad I didn't watch anymore, but I AM glad they noted that Republicans are failing miserably in "protecting America."

[Connie_Corleone]

68. That was the only good part in this crappy movie.

[susanna]

71. My guess? They didn't watch it that long. n/t