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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 05:30 PM
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Supporting the Troops
(FYI, the Patriot Guard member featured below is DUs own PaganPreacher)

Supporting the Troops
By William Rivers Pitt
t r u t h o u t | Perspective

Thursday 24 August 2006

Abraham Lincoln's second inaugural address spoke pointedly of caring "for him who shall have borne the battle and for his widow and his orphan," of the solemn responsibility held by this nation to those who served and died in her service. A plaque outside the Veterans Administration building in Washington, DC, bears these exact words. It is a motto, a mantra, and today, an utterly unfulfilled promise.

Consider the following.

The Bush administration's most recent budget framework includes $910 million in cuts to the Veterans Administration. 2,615 American soldiers have been killed in Iraq, and yet efforts to double the death benefit for soldiers killed in active duty have been forcefully resisted by the White House. Pay raises for soldiers have been capped. The tax-cut mantra of the White House has not trickled down far enough to assist the troops on the line; soldiers fighting overseas and soldiers deployed for extended periods have not been deemed worthy of even minimal tax relief, while billions of dollars in tax cuts are gifted to the wealthiest among us.

Nearly 20,000 soldiers have been wounded in Iraq, but must wait nearly six months before being seen by a VA hospital. The prescription co-pay costs for veterans were doubled in Bush's proposed 2005 budget. His 2004 proposed budget would have eviscerated funding for the education of military children. The White House formally opposed allowing National Guard and Reserve members access to the Pentagon's health care program. Perhaps worst of all, the White House quietly attempted to cut combat pay for all soldiers serving in Iraq and Afghanistan, but this measure was quickly scrapped after it became public.

This from the man whose staged photo-ops with serving soldiers have become the stuff of lore. This from the man whose defenders denounce critics with the line, "Why don't you support the troops?" This from an administration filled with officials who, almost to a man, had other priorities when they were called to serve.

The question of how, exactly, one can and should support the troops has been a live political hand grenade over the last several years. Do you support the troops by backing Bush and the Iraq occupation to the hilt? By quashing criticism because it might affect soldier morale? Or do you support the troops by advocating for their removal from the vortex of a failed and deadly policy?

These are, for sure and certain, questions of life and death. They are also, however, political questions all too often dominated by sound bytes and talking points. True assistance to American soldiers, within all this noise, is difficult to find.

Enter the Patriot Guard Riders.

It began with the funeral of Army Specialist Edward Lee Myers, who was killed in Iraq on July 27, 2005. His funeral was scheduled for August 5th, in St. Joseph, Missouri. Word got out that Fred Phelps and his Westboro Baptist Church intended to stage a protest demonstration at the funeral. Phelps and his group believe that America is doomed because of its tolerance for homosexuals, and sees the deaths of American soldiers in Iraq as divine judgment. They began showing up at soldier's funerals to broadcast this message.

D.C. "Big Dog" Hannah and his fellow veterans would have none of it. "The Missouri chapter of Combat Veterans Motorcycle Association," said Hannah in an interview, "established a plan to attend the funeral to shield Eddie's family from the protesters. CVMA contacted other groups; notably the VFW, American Legion and American Legion Riders (ALR), Leathernecks Motorcycle Club - made of current and former Marines - and the Vietnam Veterans Motorcycle Club. On the day of the funeral, eight protesters stood in a ditch across the road from the church parking lot, waving signs and screaming obscenities. Among their group were four children, wearing t-shirts with obscene phrases. 20 bikers and 15 other veterans stood between them and the church. When the Phelpses chanted, the bikers drowned them out."

More: http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/082406R.shtml



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Dystopian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 05:34 PM
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1. k/r thank you
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sarge43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 05:41 PM
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2. Hand salute for Big Dog Hannah and his troops. n/t
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PaganPreacher Donating Member (653 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-26-06 08:42 AM
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26. Returning the salute, Sarge.
Thank you.

DC
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 05:42 PM
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3. An excellent organization,
an eloquent essay.

Thank you.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 06:22 PM
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4. .
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 06:22 PM
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5. These guys and gals are awesome!!
They came from all over the country to my friend's nephew's funeral, who had just been killed in Iraq.
They held up huge flags to block the Phelp's Gang from even viewing the small church and they brought
two school busses and two 18 wheelers and blocked all access from that neanderthal's view!!
These men and women are true :patriot: The family was forever grateful to them...
They are ready at a moments notice to and will immediately log onto their website and say,
"Reporting for duty! Where are we going this time?"
They make sure they express their condolences to the families also.
I think they're a great group of people! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Or, do you support the troops,
by advocating for their removal from the vortex of a failed and deadly policy?


I pick this one! I want them out asap!!! I no longer, I hope, :scared: have a personal
interest in this happening but I do have a continued interest in their coming home,
for my country's sake and for the other's soldiers and their families sake's
and last but NOT least, for the Iraqi people's sakes and their country's sake!

It's time to end this, not send in even more troops!
:grr:

Recommended.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 06:26 PM
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6. Thank You Patriot Guard
:patriot:
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 06:29 PM
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7. Except possibly for WWII veterans
The 'promise' to veterans was breached more than it was kept by the U.S.

My great grandfather fought for the confederacy and each state handled its own veteran's pensions. My father was orphaned at an early age and was actually supported by his grandfather's veteran's pension suppled by a former confederate state.

I'm told that union veterans weren't treated so well, but I imagine that may have been more of the north/south flame wars that still existed when relatives discussed this in the 1950's.

Viet Nam vets have been treated shabbily. Remember the Agent Orange debacle.
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militaryWife Donating Member (105 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 06:39 PM
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8. excellent essay, one nit to pick...
with this line:
"The tax-cut mantra of the White House has not trickled down far enough to assist the troops on the line; soldiers fighting overseas and soldiers deployed for extended periods have not been deemed worthy of even minimal tax relief"

soldiers deployed into a combat zone don't pay federal taxes at all. In military circles it was an issue of where to draw the line. For example, my husband was in Korea, received hostile fire pay, but no tax relief. It was only for the soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan, and only for those in less than 16 years.



FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE January 26, 2006
DEPLOYED SOLDIERS, SUPPORT PERSONNEL GET
SOME EXTRA BENEFITS AND BREAKS AT TAX TIME
Compiled from U.S. Army and Internal Revenue Service sources
Soldiers and support personnel who were deployed during 2005 have some special
benefits when it comes time to file their income tax returns.
“As always, combat zone pay is non-taxable income up to the highest level of
enlisted pay per month. Basically, all of (a Soldier’s) income from downrange is nontaxable,
including student loan repayments and re-enlistment bonuses,” said Carla
Wiggins, tax coordinator for 1st Infantry Division."

http://www.vcorps.army.mil/News/2006/jan27_taxbennies_release.pdf#search=%22tax%20relief%20for%20deployed%20soldiers%22



The biggest sin against the soldier is inadequate funding for health and mental care upon return. And it will come back to haunt us.
:banghead:

oh yea, K & R
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knitter4democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 06:54 PM
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9. And they don't even have what they need to fight!!!
http://anysoldier.com

Sad stuff there.

They still don't have enough socks! We dealt with that in WWI, for crying out loud. You'd think that, one hundred years later, we'd have that settled. Makes me sick.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 06:58 PM
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10. a mission we should all support
well done
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 06:58 PM
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11. Those bikers are awesome!
Phelps and his clan are mentally unstable, I'm glad there are people who can see that.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 08:00 PM
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12. Gonna keep this up
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TomSongs Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-25-06 11:01 AM
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18. Veterans For Peace
I just finished a new song, "VFP", (performed it at the Veterans For Peace Conference in Seattle on August 10th.....wrote most of it during the 4 hour delay/TSA "no liquids" shakedown on the way up) and recorded it /built the slideshow this week. If you like it, please pass it on.

You Tube version:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=3TBOSPoZt5s

MP3 of "VFP"
http://www.tomsongs.com/images/VFP.mp3

Slideshow version of "VFP"
http://www.tomsongs.com/images/VFP.wmv


Here's another one I did "Veteran"

"Veteran"
http://www.tomsongs.com/images/Veteran.wmv


Best,
Tom
www.tomsongs.org
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 08:06 PM
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13. These bikers are true patriots!
And this is an absolutely brilliant idea for countering Phelps.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-25-06 01:50 AM
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14. One last kick
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PhilYerHead Donating Member (160 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-25-06 05:02 AM
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15. Thank you Will, for keeping these issues front and center.
Edited on Fri Aug-25-06 05:03 AM by PhilYerHead
So very proud to know you.

Never Quit, Will, Never Quit.

Peace.

S&D
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PhilYerHead Donating Member (160 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-25-06 07:10 AM
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16. Just a simple kick up for us all. Focus. n/t
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Khayembii Communique Donating Member (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-25-06 08:00 AM
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17. I'll support the troops when they join the revolution
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-25-06 02:03 PM
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19. And which revolution would that be?
The one you've started? I'm not sure they've heard about it yet.

Psssst...'V for Vendetta' was just a movie.
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sarge43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-26-06 11:38 AM
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27. Thank you Mr Pitt
I'm always bemused by people who want the troops to mutiny (a capital offense), but don't want a politicized military and seem unwilling to put themselves to the hazard.
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lapislzi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-25-06 03:52 PM
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20. K + R
This deserves higher visibility.
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lisainmilo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-25-06 04:03 PM
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21. NICE WORK!
Thank You

K&R!:)
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-25-06 04:12 PM
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22. I've talked to a lot of recent vets
that know just how "discarded" they will be after the wars are done with them.
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Neecy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-25-06 04:34 PM
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23. outstanding
Thank you for this - it's good to know that some decency still remains in Bush's America.
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-25-06 04:49 PM
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24. Phelps' church is a clear example of right-wingers...

going straight off the deep end and turning against America itself.
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PaganPreacher Donating Member (653 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-26-06 08:38 AM
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25. From the Big Dog: This is not "left" or "right".
Will:

Thanks for the interview. I appreciated the opportunity to talk to you.


AntiFascist:

Phred is not "right-wing", nor is he "left-wing".

Any honest political discussion about him and his family must include the fact that they are registered Democrats, and have been active in Democratic party politics in Kansas for three decades. If you decide to asign a "wing" to the Phelps family, you must acknowledge that Phred was a state official in the Gore Presidential campaign, and that members of his family ran for office as Democrats.

When you talk about the WBC, leave your politics at the curb. You have common cause with millions of Republicans who abhor the Phelpses, just as you do. Don't be afraid to find something bigger in this life than politics.

Ride safe, and ride proud.


DC "Big Dog" Hannah,
aka The Pagan Preacher
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-26-06 03:22 PM
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28. That's very interesting, btw your work is highly commendable....
Edited on Sat Aug-26-06 03:24 PM by AntiFascist
and I fully support what you do.

I would argue, however, that the thought process behind Phelps echoes that of many in the religious right who believe that our nation has turned evil (particularly with respect to so many who support gay rights) and that it is God's will that the nation be punished for this. In fact, this is the same as radical Islamic Fundamentalist beliefs, when you get right down to it.

People like Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell would probably never advocate protesting at a soldier's funeral, but they have made comments in the past, even prior to 9/11, and continue to make comments that the nation is being punished specifically for its POLITICAL positions which they consider to be immoral.

On Edit: Edited to insert radical before Islamic Fundamentalist.
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