Lieberman Joins REPUBLICANS On The Campaign Trail

[kpete]

Lieberman joins Republicans on the campaign trail

Lieberman is once again showing his true colors "RED"!!!

Joe Lieberman trveling across the state rallying up the GOP vote for himself (thus hurting the Democrats chances in capturing three Congressional seats).............

Lieberman will appear with two prominent Republicans, Gov. M. Jodi Rell and U.S. Rep. Rob Simmons, R-2nd, to celebrate last year's reversal of a Pentagon decision to close the Groton submarine base.

http://connecticutblog.blogspot.com/
http://www.courant.com/news/local/hc-ctsenate0824.artaug24,0,6788295.story?page=2&coll=hc-headlines-local

[bryant69]

1. He just keeps going doesn't he?

I would expect him to eventually feel some shame, but I suppose I am too optimistic about human nature.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com

[Toots]

5. If he were truly a Democrat he would feel shame

Republicans have no shame.....no manners, no civility,,no Dignity, NO HONOR....Joe is proving our points daily.

[ejbr]

57. THIS STORY IS DUBIOUS!!!!!

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/8/24/144152/314

Before the wingnuts call us on being as nutty as they are, we should put the brakes on this story until more information is available! (I only replied to your post in order to get this link near the top of this thread)

[magellan]

2. Says it all. (nt)

[marmar]

3. Uncle Joe's Cabin...

He's a self-centered prick who doesn't give a damn about the Democratic Party. It's all about Joe Lieberman. Hopefully the Dems who still supported him in the primary are getting to see exactly what he's all about. Gawd I cannot stand that bastard.

[tyedyeto]

6. Hopefully the Dems who have continued to support him

after the primary will 'see the light'.

[BuhByeChimp]

14. I have seen the light.

And I think Leiberman has now as well.

You can't be a moderate without the absolutist demonizing you. Fortunately, the absolutist don't appear to have the numbers to get rid of Joe.

[TankLV]

19. Fortunately, the REPUKE in sheep's clothing is lossing ground steadily.

It's harder when the VOTERS want you out, but you still INSIST on running anyway.

Not easy with the REPUKE wannabe demonizing you as "unpatriotic" and "support the terrorists" bullshit.

Fuck "holy" joe and his supporters.

[redqueen]

23. Amen! I'm sick of him *and* his defenders.

Centrism is for SUCKERS!

[kenfrequed]

24. That doesn't hold water

Joe was the one doing most of the demonizing. He castigated anyone who had the temerity to take a stand against the president and his idiotic policies. I mean someone could ALMOST forgive him for his pattern of cozying up to the religious right, seeming interest at weakening the first amendment, and that ridiculous kiss. But then stabbing his own party in the back routinely to earn brownie points with the guys we voted Democrats into office to oppose really raises my hackles.

And the idea that somehow bloggers, liberal elites, hollywood, Terrorists, or Santa Claus sought to take him down is equally idiotic.

It's called voting, and it wasn't a convention of party insiders that brought him down (most of the old guard were probably backing him) it was a primary. A primary where the every day working class Democratic voters came together in a state with a high voter turnout (though not as high as my native Minnesota;)) and decided he didn't represent their party anymore.

It's Democracy, stupid.

[BuhByeChimp]

34. Well, if its democracy then...

You shouldn't be upset if Lieberman wins.

I like Lieberman, he has done a lot of good things in his past especially for civil rights.

I'll support Lamont, but I'll continue to support and defend Lieberman from these assinine attacks that really do nothing other than enflame people.

[kenfrequed]

39. Sure

And Ronald Reagan started out as a Democrat, but people change and Lieberman thought he would follow the flock and play it safe rather than actually doing what a leader of the opposition party is supposed to do.

Have you EVER heard the Republicans talk about supporting Clinton when he was in office? Answer that and you might stumble upon one of the reasons why this country has been slipping to the right for about 30 years.

[BuhByeChimp]

40. Didn't Clinton get Welfare reform through?

I know the Republicans supported him in that.

[kenfrequed]

41. I think you missed the point

I was talking about language and rhetoric. Joe scolded Democrats for opposing or talking against Bush.

Republicans who backed that absurd "Welfare Reform" (aka kicking poor kids and single mothers in the teeth) usually grimaced and growled and accused the president of "stealing their ideas." There really was no lightening of the language or calls within the republican party to "support the president." To pretend otherwise reveals to me where you have come to this discussion from.

I have not forgotten Newt Gingrich's GOPAC and his how-to books for running sleazy campaigns that specialized on demonizing your opponent.

[Ms. Clio]

46. good catch

and welcome to DU.

[kenfrequed]

47. Thanks

Well he didn't make a very developed argument. It was sort of dumped without any explanation or analysis.

[Richard Steele]

66. Hi, kenfredqued! Welcome to DU!

I think you were right on target when you said:
"To pretend otherwise reveals to me where you have come to this discussion from."

That instinct should serve you well around here.

[FighttheFuture]

58. As good as Clinton was in comparison to Bu$hitCo, he was beholden to the

corporate whores of the DLC, just as Joey Loserman is. As such, Clinton made some serious mistakes because of this (Welfare Reform, Telecom Deregulation, NAFTA). Yet, he also made some real good moves too, such as pushing the income tax increase to balance the budget! Oh My!! Remember that?!

Regardless, Lieberman shows the danger of the DLC corporate whores' influence and damage they have wrought to the Democratic party. My view is that Clinton is, ultimately, a Democrat first. Joe is nothing but a money grubbing narcissistic corporate shill. A perfect little DLC poster boy who has received his well deserved, democratically determined, ejection from the Democratic Party!

[PinkyisBlue]

63. If it's democracy, Lieberman lost the primary and he should gracefully go.

He ran as a Democrat and lost; to then change his affiliation to Independent seems pretty sleazy. The more I hear about Joe, the more I dislike him.

Hope he loses (again).

[fooj]

68. Educate yourself.

All the way back to 1995...

Good Old Joe...such a honorable :sarcasm: guy. LOL!!!

http://www.commondreams.org/views01/1213-05.htm

[TankLV]

79. And we'll make sure we follow you around to tell the TRUTH about how big

an ASSHOLE "holy" joe LIE-berman is.

Especially to counter all the bullshit on how "liberal" and "a Democrat" he is...

[last1standing]

28. You might want to check out the rules of DU.

We don't allow the support of repubs or independents when there's a viable Democrat in a race.

[ComerPerro]

30. please. Lieberman is hardly moderate. He's right of center.

Problem is, this country has been dragged so far to the right that even moderate liberals seem like radical leftists.

And he is not a victim here.

He got voted out by his party.

He is not automatically entitled to his job, you know.

[Ms. Clio]

42. yes, people who expect a Democrat to act like one are "absolutists"

what a ridiculous and polarizing statement that only "enflames" (sic) people.

[FighttheFuture]

60. All you see is your own fear of a party of, for and by the people,

coming back!!!

All moderate in your case means is you cannot make up your mind of the key issues facing the world today. You are simply trying to preserve your little piece of a disappearing pie. Trying to claim the illusionary middle simply means you are pushed to whomever controls the megaphone and the levers of power -- in this case, the Crazies of the Right Wing and their failed conservative policies. Of course, you may have made up your mind and then you are just a snake in the grass like Joey "Short Ride" Lieberman.

I want a party and politics back that looks to the concerns of people first. To this country, and to the world. Not corporations, business, rich fucks who won the womb lottery or power-mad fucktards. Joe Lieberman doesn't cut it, hasn't cut it for years. Good riddance to bad rubbish.

[Richard Steele]

65. The "light" you have seen seems to be coming from radioactive Koolaid.

You say, "And I think Leiberman has now as well".

So: you think that completely supporting and promoting the B*sh Agenda™
while crapping upon the idea of "representational democracy"
is "seeing the light", do you?

[fooj]

67. Joe's not a moderate. Who do you think you are joking?

You know who is gonna get rid of Old Joe? JOE. Ask him about the PNAC. "Moderate" Joe will fill everyone in...because he is such a HONORABLE :sarcasm: guy.

[walldude]

4. I love this part:

"to celebrate last year's reversal of a Pentagon decision to close the Groton submarine base." Yeah because the troops have enough armor and what we really need for this desert war is more submarines...

[spanone]

7. This guy is a true political piece of shit.

[wisteria]

8. He seems to be blaming the Dem's for HIS loss.

It is a shame, he really doesn't seem to give a sh*t what he is doing to our party- and he has the nerve to say he is still a Democrat.

[madinmaryland]

9. What is going on with Joe?

He says he is still a Democrat, yet he is out helping repub's get elected.

:wtf:

GO HOME JOE.

[durrrty libby]

10. He really needs to start taking bi-polar meds n/t

[helderheid]

11. And for this very reason I am thrilled he didn't win the primary.

[w4rma]

12. If he wins the general election the Republican governor will replace him

in 1 year when he takes Rummy's job.

Imho, he's campaigning for the Defense Secratary position under Bush at this point and trying to do as much damage to Democrats as he can on the way out.

[Exultant Democracy]

13. Traitor Joe has about a weeks left

at this rate, what a sad end to a carrier.

[Bretttido]

33. Indeed, he could have ended his career with dignity.

Instead he will go down like a laughing-stock.

[CrispyQ]

15. I will print this article out & fax yet another plea to dino Ken

to please, please, please support democrats, you fucking dino shithead! Your days are numbered, Salazar. You too, will go the way of Lieberman.

[Name removed]

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[Zodiak]

18. just a reminder

You cannot support Leiberman on DU bandwidth.

He's not a Democrat.

[Zhade]

52. Where are the mods?

They've banished threads on Lebanon to I/P (which isn't about Lebanon at all), so they can't be too busy with those.

Why do people keep getting away with pimping lieberman? Did the announced "clarification" of the rules (was that ever posted? I might have missed it) decide to give lieberman a pass, or is it really busy for the mods?

Whatever, the pro-lieberman posts are against the rules and should be stopped, or people will wonder why they're not.

[TankLV]

20. There you go, posting your bullshit.

"Glad" you joined up to lecture us all with your "wisdom".

REMINDER:

It's against the rules to support someone other than the DEMOCRATIC nominee.

[ComerPerro]

31. What does he stand for? Honestly!

[CrispyQ]

35. I am not familiar with Senator Lieberman's career,

but going out by bad mouthing the party that has supported him during that career is bad form. As for Lieberman going back to DC, time will tell.

BTW, Salazar, whom my derogatory name calling was directed toward, does not have a good record. His first 18 months in the Senate shows that he votes dem about 30% of the time. :eyes:

[Zodiak]

64. So true about Salazar

I have him at about 25%. He is part of my "dirty baker's dozen", a group of DLC-heavy Democrats that seem to think that being a moderate is supporting Bush extremists >55% of the time.

Feinstein (California)......... 45 *
Cantwell (Washington).......... 43 *
Conrad (North Dakota).......... 43 *
Leiberman (Connecticut)........ 43 *
Carper (Deleware).............. 38 *
Baucus (Montana)............... 36 *
Johnson (South Dakota)......... 33 *
Lincoln (Arkansas)............. 29 *
Pryor (Arkansas)............... 26 *
Nelson (Florida)............... 24 *
Salazar (Colorado)............. 24 *
Landrieu (Louisianna).......... 19 *
Nelson (Nebraska).............. 5 *

By the way, the asterisk means DLC

[CrispyQ]

71. Mind if I steal that line?

"...Democrats that seem to think that being a moderate is supporting Bush extremists >55% of the time." :thumbsup:
I'd like to use it in a letter to him.

[kenfrequed]

82. The DLC

This organization has actually done more damage to the Democractic party than the Republicans could have by moving the Democratic party away from its primary constituents.

[Bretttido]

36. The REALITY is that Traitor Joe's double digit advantage has dissappeared

in only a week's time. He has become a joke, and those like you who attempt to use the bandwidth of DU as a Lieberman campaign-rally are directly attacking the democratic party and the rules of DU.

[kenfrequed]

38. Sorry but that really isn't happening.

Lieberman must accomplish the following to win:

A: Get decent support from Republicans.

Ok this is simply not going to happen. To appeal to some of them he will have to embrace fetus and firearms crowd. Movements to the right to accomodate these people won't work very well and will alienate Dem's and Indep's.

Shlessinger isn't going to play dead, he had every intention of running against Joe when he thought he would be facing off with him in the general election. It is very rare that a candidate of one party stands up and throws support for another of a completely different party.


B: Win the Independents rather thoroughly.

Independents are NOT the media misconception of "Moderates" Presently Independents are rather against Bush and are blaming anyone that sides with him (thus all the crazy polls that point to Democrats being more trusted than Republicans and the public preference for Democrats.) Playing a sane version of Ross Perot's 'monkey-in-the-middle' will not win these guys over.

C: Take a sizable portion of the Democratic vote.

And wandering around the state and campaigning with Republicans is really the greatest way I know of to get liberal and moderate Democrats to back you. Sorry, but most Democrats are going to feel betrayed by this whole move. Their well of sympathy has dried up.

The numbers may seem to give Lieberman an edge for now but as he draws more and more on Republicans his lead will quickly disintegrate.

[VP505]

43. No I don't like it

Lieberman has given the voters in Connecticut the finger, he has given all Democrats the finger and I am supposed to respect him for it, bullshit!!!

[Ms. Clio]

44. If he goes back, he does so as an independent, not a Democrat

So why would you support that? It's asinine. And I could give a rat's ass about your precious sensibilities, or the ancient history you appear to think is relevant. How about current events, and this warm embrace from the "Chimp" in your nick? Your position is wildly inconsistent.

[Zhade]

49. You are now breaking DU rules by advocating for lieberman.

Mods?

[opihimoimoi]

17. THE PUB MOLE OUTS HIMSELF!!!!! Joe reveals his RED COLORS

in this latest move...

He must be BRAIN IMPAIRED...what is it? Drugs? Intoxicated by POWER? GREED? He is a DEM TRAITOR and should be censured by the DEM Party...cast out from the Party membership and Banished from the HUMAN RACE

Look at the dude...he is MOLESQUE

[Botany]

21. Joe is in for a real ass kicking

http://www.surveyusa.com/50State2006/50StateBushApproval060815Approval.htm

look @ the #s in CT

[Nikki Stone 1]

22. How very "independent" of him!

:sarcasm:

[Az_lefty]

25. Is CT. ready to toss that asshole from the Dem party yet???

if not, why not? He's showing his true colors all right, and screwing up everything in the process. It's all about Joe and nothing else.
:puke:

[ginnyinWI]

26. MyDD weighs in on it:

http://www.mydd.com/story/2006/8/24/123532/403

[GreenTea]

27. Who still wishes Lieberman would of beaten Lamont for the Dem nominee?

All the people who said we were being to tough on Lieberman, because he's a "democrat"...The ones that supported Lieberman saying we need him to win so we don't lose a democratic senate seat....Well looky here, the fucker is, as most of us knew for years, a fucking republican...he voted that way, scolded democrats for not supporting Bush and now is campaigning for them.

this is who some people wanted to win the democratic primary, simply because he had a "D" next to his name?

Have they ever heard of the words, MOLE or SHILL?

[bdamomma]

29. he is showing his true colors isn't he?

why doesn't he just change parties. stupid jerk.

[Chico Man]

32. Where's Dolstein?

[Zhade]

51. Upthread?

Oh, wait, that's a newbie breaking the rules, not dolstein.

(Right? I mean, we think Benchley had a sockpuppet, so...)

[TankLV]

80. Probablly conferring with MrBenchley on what to say next...

That's my take.

Peas in a pod.

A spoiled, stinking, pod...

[AlCzervik]

37. Joe you lost, get over it!! OMG he makes so fing mad.

[PegDAC]

45. Two words:

True colors.

[bpeale]

48. hmmm.....

Like my daddy used to say ... you are who you associate with. If that's true, what does this make LIE-berman?

[bigtree]

50. puke

[FighttheFuture]

53. Joey is a wolf in sheeps clothing. There's a reason William F. Buckley

supported this traitor in his initial Senate run.

Whether Ned wins or not, it was the right thing to do to get rid of Joe "It's my ball" Liberman!

[ElboRuum]

54. How? How?! HOW?!?!

How did this political hack get three terms in office in the first place?

[ejbr]

55. THIS STORY IS DUBIOUS!!!!!

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/8/24/144152/314

Before the wingnuts call us on being as nutty as they are, we should put the brakes on this story until more information is available!

[B Calm]

69. Why would the wing nuts call us nutty? 75% of Connecticut republicans

plan to vote for Lieberman!

[ejbr]

78. touche n/t

[Joe Chi Minh]

56. If he'd only been just a bit bipartisan.... with the Dems, I dare say

it would have gone a long way, given the already strong right-wing bias of US politics. But moderation was never a forte of the far right.

[Nightjock]

59. It's BIZZARRO WORLD!

PUH-LEEEESE Ct. voters get him the F*** out of here!

I feel guilty saying this but I HATE HIM. He is enabling bush to ruin this country!!!

[Biernuts]

73. And HATE is a family value we want to pass on to our kids, isn't it? n/t

[Joey Liberal]

61. LIEBERBUSH IS A TRAITOR N/T

[MzNov]

62. We all need to contact Harry Reid immediately and get

this traitor off Committees and strip him of any Democratic-related responsibilities. This guy is a bigger joke than Bush, and that's A BIG JOKE.

:dem:



"Let's Landslide!!"

:bounce:

[Biernuts]

70. Just what Rove would recommend. Think EXACTLY like us or face

banishment.

Should Joe win in Nov, a very real possibility, will you still advocate pushing him to the republicans if his one seat decides Senate control? You can't have it both ways and be anything other than what Rove already insists - that the extreme left is planning a McGovern style voctory in two months.

There are plenty of Dems who ran on other tickets - Mario Cumo running against Ed Koch for example - was it on the NY Liberal party ticket while Koch had the Dem nomination. Let's tar & feather Mario!!

Support Lamont to your heart's content - but it's stupid to burn bridges you may need in your retreat to get control of the Senate.

I'll go one step further and stir the pot to start the weekend off right: If Joe wins and Senate control hangs on his one vote, Harry Reid, John Kerry, Evan Bayh, Chuck Schumer, Joe Biden and Ted Kennedy will be standing in line to kiss his ass trying to be majority leader and committee chairmen rather than minority leader and ranking members. Intuition tells me that Russ Feingold, however, will skip that line because his principals are more important to him than running a committee. People who put their personal principal ahead of party are rare, especially in the Senate. The only two that I think would hold to their positions, even of the payoff for flipping is very great, are Feingold and Liebermann. Regardless of whether I agree or disagree on an issus by issue basis, I respect the conviction they both demonstrate. Although they have very different views on what is best for the country vis a vis GWOT, particularly the Iraq theater, neither would put party ahead of country.

[cmkramer]

72. Typical leftist bullshit

The event was to celebrate the fact that the Groton Submarine Base was not being closed. In what universe would the governor of the state, the representative of the district where the base is located and the United States senator from the state who championed the cause not be there? Are you seriously telling me that if the other two pols had been Democrats, Lieberman would have stayed away?

[FighttheFuture]

75. Tsk, tsk, don't cry now! Lord Joe BJ's Repugs regularly. This is just...

a coincidence. I mean, if Dems were involved, I am sure he would be supporting them with that incredible party loyalty and camaraderie he has shown over the years, especially since Bu$hitCo $tole the Presidency in 2000 ans 2004 and the Repugs $tole the Senate in 2002. Heck, his support of Clinton is the stuff of legend... like Caesar and Brutus!

Yeah....

Feel better now?

[cmkramer]

81. Typical leftist bullshit again

Again, I ask. In what universe would the governor of the state, the respresentative of the district where the base is located and the U.S. Senator who championed the cause not be there to celebrate the base not being closed?

[paulk]

76. in Jane Hamsher's universe

she's the one who started this particular story, as per the dKos article.

Lamont really needs to make clear that she is not a part of his campaign.

[FighttheFuture]

74. FDL has a good argument of why Lord Joe is shilling for Repugs with this.

It is at: http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/08/25/the-wonder-years/

[paulk]

77. this is simply not the truth

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/8/24/144152/314