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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 11:38 PM
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Fun with Sims
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 11:43 PM
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1. This is what happens when you argue with your spouse.
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-20-06 12:09 AM
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2. Check nationstates a free-online game


Jennifer Government: NationStates is a nation simulation game. You create your own country, fashioned after your own ideals, and care for its people. Either that or you deliberately torture them. It's really up to you.


My country is this



The United Socialist States of 82much

"It is a common wealth not personal wealth"

UN Category: Democratic Socialists
Civil Rights:Very Good
Economy:Fragile
Political Freedoms:Excellent
Location: The East Pacific

Regional Influence: Minnow

The United Socialist States of 82much is a tiny, environmentally stunning nation, notable for its punitive income tax rates. Its compassionate, intelligent population of 6 million are fiercely patriotic and enjoy great social equality; they tend to view other, more capitalist countries as somewhat immoral and corrupt.

It is difficult to tell where the omnipresent, socially-minded government stops and the rest of society begins, but it is mainly concerned with Social Welfare, although Healthcare and Education are secondary priorities. The average income tax rate is 56%, and even higher for the wealthy. Private enterprise is illegal, but for those in the know there is a slick and highly efficient black market in Book Publishing.

Crime is totally unknown. 82much's national animal is the praying mantis, which frolics freely in the nation's many lush forests, and its currency is the norki.

82much is ranked 4061st in the region and 63,406th in the world for Largest Automobile Manufacturing Sector.

http://www.nationstates.net /

The book, Jennifer Government is very dark and funny


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jennifer_Government
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-20-06 12:13 AM
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3. Tax Rate Of 56%? There's One Country I Ain't Gonna Fuckin Live In LOL
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-20-06 12:17 AM
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4. Make your own fucking country then perhaps you would enjoy this country
The Imperial Corporate Republic of Neo-Industria
motto:
"World Domination for a Better Tomorrow"

UN Category: Corporate Police State
Civil Rights:Few
Economy:Frightening
Political Freedoms:Unheard Of
Location: Gamingforce

Regional Influence: Eminence Grise

The Imperial Corporate Republic of Neo-Industria is a massive, economically powerful nation, notable for its barren, inhospitable landscape. Its hard-nosed, hard-working, cynical population of 7.53 billion are ruled with an iron fist by the corrupt, dictatorship government, which oppresses anyone who isn't on the board of a Fortune 500 company. Large corporations tend to be above the law, and use their financial clout to gain ever-increasing government benefits at the expense of the poor and unemployed.

It is difficult to tell where the omnipresent, corrupt, pro-business government stops and the rest of society begins, but it is mainly concerned with Defence, although Law & Order and Commerce are secondary priorities. Income tax is unheard of. A powerhouse of a private sector is led by the Automobile Manufacturing industry, followed by Uranium Mining and Arms Manufacturing.

Citizens must pay to enjoy Neo-Industria's pristine beaches, inheritance tax has recently been abolished, ethnic minorities are often refused admission to some of the nation's best schools, and the nation's drinking water tends to glow green at night. Crime -- especially youth-related -- is crippling. Neo-Industria's national animal is the corpse, which teeters on the brink of extinction due to widespread deforestation, and its currency is the Stock.

Neo-Industria is ranked 1st in the region and 7th in the world for Largest Automobile Manufacturing Sector.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-20-06 12:19 AM
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5. No Thanks. But I Definitely Ain't Livin In Some Fucked Up One With 56%
taxes either. Fuck that. :rofl:
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-20-06 12:38 AM
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7. How about 40-48%?
The income taxes people really pay link: http://www.oecdobserver.org/news/fullstory.php?aid=77






In the game you decide what type of government you choose
and are given certain values to place into the country you set up,
then the computer spits out what describes the world you have chosen.
I made many different types of governments and economies.
Then it gives you issues to deal with.

If you choose to be a mocking ass about it
so be it.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-20-06 12:46 AM
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9. Most of Europe is not where he would want to live, then
If you want excellent health care, public education, mass transit, strong labor protections, and strong environmental protections, the money has to come from somewhere, and taxes have been the general avenue to pay for those. France, Germany, Sweden, etc. have tax rates comparable to your nation.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-20-06 12:35 AM
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6. Your nation sounds a lot better than the other frightening states there
This was under "How to Play":

The left/right scale isn't used in NationStates. Because it's one-dimensional, it's not a very accurate way of measuring your politics. NationStates has three main scales: personal, economic, and political. In each case, you can be authoritarian (moral, or restrictive) or libertarian (liberal, or laissez-faire). For example, someone with left-wing politics might want high levels of personal freedom (e.g. no drug laws, gay rights), low levels of economic freedom (e.g. taxes, welfare), and average levels of political freedom (e.g. compulsory voting at elections). A libertarian might prefer high levels of freedom on all scales. An authoritarian might want the opposite.

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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-20-06 12:42 AM
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8. Yes thanks for pointing that out
It covers a massive range of options, libertarian, anarchist, and many other political and economic systems.




If you play
choose an odd name some of the better names are taken
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-20-06 12:48 AM
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10. I played for a few months, but the program is very stilted to the right
and there is little variety. I got my nation up to 2 billion with a very liberal government (in the traditional sense) but if you don't crack the whip and become some form of police state you can't create a good stable economy and your tax rates are always insanely high. It just got boring, always the same issues over and over with very limited options for how to deal with them, so you end up ignoring them. I doubt it is still there but it was called Chien Rouge (see avatar)

Good idea, poorly executed.
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-20-06 12:55 AM
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11. Interesting ,I just started so haven't seen the issues come up.
Thanks I'll check out your country.



Did you read the book yet? I just started it also, so no spoilers .....LOL
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-20-06 01:53 PM
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13. I haven't read the book either, please let us know what it proposes
I'd be interested, though judging from how the game is skewed, I'm guessing it is some slightly altered form of hierarchical domination.
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Kiouni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-20-06 02:58 AM
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12. i loved the book
didnt know there was a website thanks.
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