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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 09:55 AM
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Poll question: Choose only one: Which of these politicians is most likely to be a racist?
Not just a casual racist, but a white supremacist, someone with a real tendency to hate other races?

I submit that people don't usually acquire such reputations for no reason at all.

Sorry, polls are turned off at Level 3.

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Chan790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 10:53 AM
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1. Point of Order
George Allen is a known racist, at least to anybody who has lived in NoVA or DC within the past 10 years. Should he really be in there?

That's like asking who might be a racist: Mickey Mouse, Bugs Bunny, or David Duke.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 11:14 AM
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4. Known racists need to be called out.
Edited on Thu Aug-17-06 11:24 AM by BurtWorm
And they certainly shouldn't be allowed to be sent to Congress or the Senate.

PS: In fact, that's the point of this thread. If we know George Allen is a racist, what the fuck is he doing in the Senate?
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Chan790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 11:58 AM
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7. Well...I never voted for him in the 2 years I lived in Arlington
Edited on Thu Aug-17-06 12:02 PM by Chan790
but my point was that in his case, there is no thought involved. The question was "who do you suspect of being a racist?". People who don't think George Allen is a racist are the same people who think Surgeon General warnings on cigarettes are a conspiracy by liberals in the northeast to destroy the VA and NC state economies (ie. wingnuts). These are the same fuckwads who elected him and they'll probably fight like hell to re-elect him. Some fair portion of them probably even vote for him on the basis of being a racist. George Allen is a known racist.

His presence is dragging down vote totals for people who are strongly suspected of being racists and equally deserving of being called out, as he's just too far of an outlier. I assumed that was the same reason Trent Lott or Tom Tancredo weren't included...there just isn't much question there.

Edit: I take that back, the question was "Which of these politicians is most likely to be a racist?" so it's definately Allen.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 12:14 PM
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10. Thank you. See, I was looking for something precise.
I think Allen's racist underdrawers got flashed to the wider public this week. If there's any justice left in this democracy, Allen's career ought to be ground into the dust.
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The2ndWheel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 12:11 PM
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9. But if people voted for that as their representation
isn't that how it's supposed to work? Unless they didn't know they were voting for a racist, but then the whole politically correct speech topic can be brought up.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 12:54 PM
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25. Did the people of Allen's district know he was a racist?
Did he run as a racist? No! He's been trying to hide it. It's lucky for the people of Virginia he couldn't hold it in any longer.
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The2ndWheel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 12:57 PM
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27. That's what I'm saying
If he wasn't able to hide behind focus-grouped language, people would know who and what they were voting for.
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Sailor for Warner Donating Member (615 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 12:30 PM
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13. Being a Racist is not a crime...
Last time I checked. If Virginians want to throw this jackass on his but next election, that is their business.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 12:31 PM
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14. No, it's not a crime.
But racists have no business holding public office because they don't represent the minorities they're supposed to represent.
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The2ndWheel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 12:42 PM
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18. Unless they were voted in by a majority of voters
Or did the system change today?
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 12:44 PM
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19. Yes, unfortunately if the people are majority racists...
then you get racists in office. Which is why there's a constitution and a system of courts around to protect minorities from racist majorities.
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Sailor for Warner Donating Member (615 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 12:47 PM
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20. I know that there are many people
who hold personal views on race that are borderline racist but still do their job with no repect to race...just a thought.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 12:49 PM
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22. Well if their job is cooking french fries that's not a big deal.
However, if their job is to represent the public, such as a politician, or to protect and serve the public, such as a police officer, than they've got no business having that job if they're a racist.
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The2ndWheel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 12:49 PM
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23. Yes, but you said
racists have no business being in public office. That's different than having constitutional protection for minorities.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 12:50 PM
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24. Right.
Racists have no business being in public office.
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The2ndWheel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 01:02 PM
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34. We're both just bored at work, aren't we?
I know that you know what I'm saying. You know that I know what you're saying. We're on the same wave length. In an enlightened world, they technically have no business holding public office. In a strict democratic sense, if voted in, they're in.

Down time at work in front of a computer. It's FAAAAANtastic.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 01:56 PM
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40. Maybe you. I'm comfortably retired.
While you're stuck at work. Sucker! ha ha ha!

Naw, I'm just fucking with ya. Have a wonderful day.
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Jed Dilligan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 01:13 PM
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36. Including anti-Arab racists serving the public as soldiers. nt
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 12:28 PM
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12. That one's easy, it's Bugs Bunny...he HATES humans....
..oh, and Martians.....

Yup, DEFINITELY a racist.... ;-)
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 12:32 PM
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15. Why just NOVA or DC?
They know Allen is a racist schmuck down my way, too...
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Chan790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 12:55 PM
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26. I assume they know it elsewhere too.
but I've never found anybody living inside/near the beltway who didn't think it. All parties, races, creeds...everybody knew Allen was a racist. Yet somehow...he got elected.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 01:23 PM
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39. Ah -- got it
They know it in my neck of the woods, too. Many, many Progressives and Liberals in central VA.
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MrCoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 10:56 AM
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2. Why was I the first vote for GWB?
shame on you. George Bush doesn't care about black people. Kanye told me.
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obreaslan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 01:58 PM
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41. And no votes for Cheney yet. n/t
:shrug:

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itzamirakul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 10:56 AM
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3. Tom Delay....I had a hard time choosing between him and Cheney.
Also, you left off Trent Lott who would have been number 1 in my book.
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commander bunnypants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 11:42 AM
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5. Allen
He is mine and road our Commonwealth straight to the poor house

CB
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 11:56 AM
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6. All of the above.
Honestly, I don't know why people consider Allen's recent remark so unusual or out of the ordinary.
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Bretttido Donating Member (754 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 11:58 AM
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8. George Allen is the obvious choice, so I passed him and picked Santorum
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 12:15 PM
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11. McCain has used the word "Gook"
and refused to apologize

I also have got the gut impression from his language at times that he considers Iraqis and others to be some inferior.
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angstlessk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 12:34 PM
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16. Hey, I live in VA, therefore I am 'prejudiced'...
George is not a native of VA, he just pretends to be a 'native' when he appears to beg forgiveness for his faux pas.
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Brazenly Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 12:36 PM
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17. There are several strong candidates
but I had to go with the guy whose own sister says he's a bigot.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 12:49 PM
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21. They all are racists.
And don't give me that "Bush has Condi" crap.

They only accept minorities that sell out and embrace policies that help rich, white Americans.

That means, guess what, they are racist.
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Sailor for Warner Donating Member (615 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 12:59 PM
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29. I have to interject here.
I have known Sen. McCain for several years and if he is a racist he hides it very well. While I have differences with him politically, if he is a racist, Im the queen of may.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 01:12 PM
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35. ok, exception for McCain. But he hangs with racists.
and, since he won't even stand up for himself, I highly doubt that he stands up for minorities.
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 12:59 PM
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30. & the minorites they do accept are, necessarily, racists!!
I find minorites who are also racist. elitist pigs to be as offensive as any racist.
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 01:01 PM
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31. Yep
And those minorities are usually considered 'expendable' (Colin Powell, anyone?)
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 12:58 PM
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28. Allen is probably the MOST racist of that bunch
...though all Republicans I know are racist, so it's a relative thing.
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Sailor for Warner Donating Member (615 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 01:02 PM
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33. Many republicans are not racist
I know a few democrats who are racist too, both black and white, must be a relative thing.
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Jed Dilligan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 01:14 PM
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37. Define "racist."
Not a link to an online dictionary, please. What does the word mean to you?
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 01:16 PM
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38. I'm sure they are not, I've just never met a not racist Republican
Even the most liberal seemingly kind-hearted Republicans are racist when it comes right down to it. Most Democrats are racist. Most of the blacks & other monorities I grew up with are racist. Many of my liberal family are racist. Some highly visible minorities think it is part of their right to be racist. Racism is not unusual, but I've yet to meet a Republican that wasn't - racism/bigotry is part and parcel of what it means to be a Republican as far as I can tell - and I know hundreds of Republicans due to my job & living arrangements. All is good until you get into a private setting where they can "let go" as it were. There may be some non-racist Republicans, I just haven't met them.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 01:02 PM
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32. Didn't Delay once blame minorities for him not enlisting? He claimed they
Edited on Thu Aug-17-06 01:02 PM by chimpsrsmarter
took all the jobs in the military or something like that?
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