44% of males say better for a child to have no parents than gay parents

[readmoreoften]

This is part of a random market test survey I participated in (marketsurveys.com). 8960 respondants. Cut and pasted from screen. (bold face mine)



Do you feel that having adoptive same sex parents is better than no parents?

Answer Males Females

Yes 26.6% 39.3%


It depends 20.9% 23.7%


No 44.2% 28.2%


Undecided 8.3% 8.8%



(Imagine thinking its better for a child to be orphaned than to have loving gay parents.)

[LiberalVoice]

1. How sad.

Ignorance is frustrating.

[Warren DeMontague]

2. Wow.

People are pretty fucked in the head.

[Warren Stupidity]

3. 44% of men are bigoted idiots!

And an additional 21% aren't sure if they are idiots or not. Wow. I'm SHOCKED!

Actually 'it depends' is so ambiguous that I'll give that 21% the benefit of the doubt.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

34. Amazing That 52% Of Women Are Either Bigoted Idiots Or Potential Bigoted

idiots as well. (28% and 24% respectively)

I'm amazed at the number of both genders quite frankly. We obviously have a long way to go as human beings towards tolerance and understanding.

[Rose Siding]

4. 44% of males have no concept of what parenting means

[havocmom]

11. BINGO!

They figure it's something only women can do and only if the women have male partners?

Interested in how good a sample was used in the survey. Scientific or just who ever responded matters a lot toward the accuracy of the whole thing.

[readmoreoften]

14. It's an online market survey.

Not a scientific poll, but I wouldn't be surprised if the results weren't that far off. I remember scientific polls being MUCH more anti-gay even 6-10 years ago.

[havocmom]

16. Thanks for the info

Take poll with grain of salt... I hope ;)

[MrSlayer]

5. No real shock.

Many people are woefully ignorant about homosexuals. They think dudes are walking around in leather chaps with slave balls in their mouths all the time and shit like that. It's both humorous and incredibly sad at the same time.

[nealmhughes]

7. Only half do that! Everyone knows the other half have great monthly

stipends from Fidel and Hugo so they can afford great designer Italian clothes...or else they wear dresses. Come now...

:sarcasm: :sarcasm:

[ecstatic]

27. yeah and based on those stereotypes, they imagine extra teasing

and bullying of the kids raised in the gay household. Aren't men (and boys) more concerned with what people and their friends will think of them? I don't think this poll reflects the hate or bigotry of men, I think it just reflects perceptions about how "hard" it might be to grow up with gay parents.

[readmoreoften]

29. I remember when people didn't believe in interracial couples

because it would be "so hard for the children". It's the usual cover for bigotry. Often the people know damn well how bad the kids will be treated, because they are the ones who will be treating them badly. The question wasn't "is it preferable for children to grow up in straight or gay families?" The question was, "is it better for a child to have no family or same-sex parents?" In other words, is it better to be an orphan shifted from foster home to foster home, or better to have gay parents. Anyone who thinks its harder to be theoretically teased for having gay parents than it is to be an orphan is either or insane or antigay. My guess is antigay.

[ecstatic]

32. very good points. I can't help but also think of the poll where people

overwhelmingly preferred being broke or unemployed to being fat. Is this a reflection of a true hatred of the overweight? I don't know... I'm sure in every family there is at least one overweight person, and the polls show that the majority of Americans are actually overweight... So I think there is always some sort of disconnect in polls like this....

[readmoreoften]

33. Just because someone doesn't want to BE overweight

doesn't mean that they HATE overweight people. It means that they recognize that being overweight is heavily discriminated against and they'd rather deal with unemployment and poverty than obesity. Not to mention, obese people face job discriminiation away.

But when you state that a child is better off an orphan than with a gay family, you are showing that you are a bigot. I'm sorry. There's no gray area on this one. There is no "disconnect". This is how people really feel and their votes against gay adoptions and foster parenting in *real life* unfortunately concur with these statistics.

[MrSlayer]

30. Kids are cruel no matter what.

Yeah people are going to rip on them for it, the same way they rip on you for being fat, being skinny, wearing glasses, having "uncool" clothes or whatever. Everyone runs the gauntlet as a kid. I don't know if this poll is a reflection of men's concern for children or if it's just the regular anti-gay stance. I tend to think the latter. It's a shame it's not broken further into whether they think this about same sex male and same sex female couples. I'd be willing to bet it would be harder on gay men then gay women.

[Jersey Devil]

6. I think you have it backwards

At least from the way you posted the information, it says 44% of all responders think it would be better to have gay adoptive parents than no parents and that only 26% of males think it would be better to have no parents than gay adoptive parents.

Since there is no link there is no way to check it.

[karlrschneider]

8. Are we reading the same post?

I can't see how you're interpreting it that way...
:eyes:

[Jersey Devil]

10. OK, probably I'm wrong but

I still think it's a badly worded question and could easily have been confused by those answering it just as it confused me when I read it.

[readmoreoften]

12. Then men are 16% more confused than women because

only 28% of women responded that they felt the same way. It's written pretty clearly to me.

[readmoreoften]

9. No I didn't. And you can check it for yourself.

The question is "Do you feel that having adoptive same sex parents is better than no parents?" And 44% of males said "no".

If you think I'm lying to you can check it out at www.marketsurveys.com under the survey "adoption"


Here's the only link I have. I don't know if it will work. http://www.marketsurveys.com/view_results.phtml?survey=msadoption&question=11

[im10ashus]

13. I see a combined 46% who thinks it's better or "depends"

B-) We are gaining ground. I also think the question leaves too many choices by saying "is it better than..." :shrug:

[readmoreoften]

17. Sorry, I don't think so positively about these things.

I have a hard time being all "Yay 65% of people feel that I'm not a danger to children!!!" It only shows me how far we have to go.


The question is in the context of a wide range of adoption questions. For example, the question BEFORE this is as follows:

Do you feel having an adoptive single parent is better than no parent?

Answer Males Females

Yes 50.3% 61.9%


It depends 36.7% 32.8%


No 7.9% 2.7%


Undecided 5.1% 2.6%

[im10ashus]

25. I know, I was trying to be too optimistic.

I have friends who have adopted. Another close friend who is starting the process. These children want the same thing we all want. Love and acceptance unconditionally, someone who they know cares about them.

[karlrschneider]

22. I started to mention that but didn't. "It depends"

SEEMS to say (to me, at least) that those who picked that choice are okay with same-sex parents
unless there's some specific circumstance in a given case. I guess what I'm trying to say (or hope, maybe) is that I don't think someone who was definitely against it would consider it at all, so
"it depends" leaves some wiggle room. Like saying it's okay without actually saying so. Does that make sense?

[im10ashus]

26. It's a loaded question, for sure.

I am mean, just give me a yes or no question if you want it to be "scientifically" within the margin of some error. But that question begs for an essay-length response. :shrug:

[cigsandcoffee]

15. The almost 30% of women shouldn't get a pass either.

IMO. 3 in 10 is not statistically insignificant.

[readmoreoften]

18. 100% agreed.

I wasn't surprised that 28% of women still feel that way about us. Backwash voters. 44% was too close to "one in two" for me.

[TheWebHead]

19. link

http://marketsurveys.com/surveys/adoption/results.phtml

[readmoreoften]

20. Cool thanks for that. Here's my link for the male/female breakdown.

http://www.marketsurveys.com/view_results.phtml?survey=msadoption&question=11

[dipsydoodle]

21. I'm straight

but I think that's complete crap.

[SmokingJacket]

23. Maybe it would be worth surveying some kids and adults who have

gay parents.

I know some -- and I don't know a single one who would rather have had no parents.

[readmoreoften]

24. Yeah, but they're brainwashed. So what does it matter.

Just like these people don't believe it when gay people say they're happy-- because they believe that gay people are insane and don't know what "happiness" is. I imagine they feel the same way about adult children of gay parents. The funny thing is, I don't know a single gay kid with gay parents. I do know a boatload of LGBT people with LGBT siblings, though.

[elocs]

28. So do aliens from Mars raise these men? Is it nature or nurture?

Well, it is women who are raising these males who become men and a good many apparently believe that a child would be better off as an orphan than with gay parents. There was an interesting bit on tv the other night about why women are more in touch with their feelings than men are generally. Women have evolved in order to anticipate and understand the needs of infants who cannot communicate verbally, i.e., talk. Not an excuse, but maybe it's just harder for men.

[WePurrsevere]

31. Those that say "no" probably have no concept of what the other options

really are like.

LOVE is LOVE... I've known some pretty messed up hetros and some gays/lesbian's that have their heads on very well. If someone can give a child a stable and loving home and family then then it shouldn't matter what their affection orientation is.

[Raydawg1234]

35. it's a culture thing. They're afraid that if they say yes, people will

think they're gay.

[Zhade]

36. Bigots.

NT!