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ramapo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 09:22 PM
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The terrorists have won
I believe this was a real plot and, had it not been for the fine work of British authorities, it would've been a horrible event.

The aim of the terrorists was to disrupt travel and instill fear. They have succeeded with the help of the media and our "leaders".

The sick plan of 20 some people have resulted in the ban of all liquids. gels, etc. on all flights. Does this make any sense? The whole system is thrown into chaos. Super red alert is declared. The national guard is called out. Do these reactions have any real purpose?

Some politicians equate the danger to that whhich we faced during the height of the cold war.

Total foolishness. God forbid that the plot uncovered had succeeded. Thousands would've died. Horrible. Unforgivable. Wasteful. But a far cry from the mass destruction that would've been unleashed from a confrontation between US and Soviet forces.

The ultimate goal of the terrorists was not met. But they have succeeded.
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madame defarge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 09:25 PM
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1. Yes indeed they have...
Their goal was to take us down economically. And they are succeeding...

"So we are continuing this policy in bleeding America to the point of bankruptcy. Allah willing, and nothing is too great for Allah.

That being said, those who say that al-Qaida has won against the administration in the White House or that the administration has lost in this war have not been precise, because when one scrutinises the results, one cannot say that al-Qaida is the sole factor in achieving those spectacular gains.

Rather, the policy of the White House that demands the opening of war fronts to keep busy their various corporations - whether they be working in the field of arms or oil or reconstruction - has helped al-Qaida to achieve these enormous results.

And so it has appeared to some analysts and diplomats that the White House and us are playing as one team towards the economic goals of the United States, even if the intentions differ."

You didn't hear that on CNN because their site was censored but that's from the November '04 tape.

(Full transcript on al-Jazeera website).
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ramapo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 09:28 PM
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3. Precisely our tactic against the USSR
We are good teachers
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 09:27 PM
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2. Somebody created a lot of terror, that's for sure...
Whether or not the stated plot existed at all.

NGU.


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spindrifter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 09:52 PM
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4. Yes--and the terrorists have screwed
all the airport beverage and sundries vendors who will no longer be selling those last minute bottles of water or the much-needed deodorant or toothpaste, not to speak of the lakes of lattes that will not be drunk as planes ascend on their way to places near and far. Truly they have won. :wtf:
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alarimer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 10:04 PM
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5. Someone tried to do the same thing in 1994
And we didn't freak out this way then.

This is a good article anyway, but Patrick Smith addresses the issue:

Terrorists intend to destroy several jumbo jets over the ocean using liquid explosives smuggled aboard in carry-on luggage. The plot is foiled in the nick of time by authorities.

August 2006? No, it's 1994, and the sinister plan, nicknamed "Oplan Bojinka," is under the direction of Ramzi Yousef and Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, a pair of terrorist conspirators hiding out in Manila, Philippines. Khalid would later lead the Sept. 11 attacks on New York and Washington. Yousef was already responsible for having organized the World Trade Center prelude bombing in 1993.


more
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2006/08/10/bomb/
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lectrobyte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 10:11 PM
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6. If you believe the terrorists have won, then the terrorists have won.

As the bumper sticker says, Osama's still free, how about you?
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 10:44 PM
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7. Agreed. Americans cower while the pResident strips them of
their constitutional rights, their economy
and their future.

That is the ultimate goal of terrorism.

BHN
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