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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 08:20 PM
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True or not: Largest US Church Accuses President Bush re 9-11
Edited on Thu Aug-10-06 08:21 PM by NVMojo
This just emailed to me ...

August 11, 2006

Largest US Church Accuses President Bush of Being Behind 9/11 Attacks as US Military Leaders Seek Protection from War Crimes

By: Sorcha Faal, and as reported to her Russian Subscribers

As the current Middle Eastern war threatens to engulf the entire World in Total War an escalating series of events in the United States are threatening to bring about the downfall of their Military Leaders.

In this past week, the Commissioner, Former Governor Tom Kean, tasked by the American President with heading the panel to investigate the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks upon the United States admitted that the investigation was a "whitewash"; in the release of his book titled "Without Precedent: The Inside Story of the 9/11 Commission".http://independent.org/newsroom/article.asp?id=1785

This stunning revelation about 9/11 by Governor Kean was quickly followed by the largest Presbyterian Church organization in the United States placing direct blame for these attacks upon the American President, and as we can read as reported by the Malaysia Sun News Service, and as we can read:

"The Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.)'s publishing arm has released a book that says President Bush organized New York's Sept. 11 attacks. The decision by the 160-year-old Westminster John Knox Press, the trade and academic publishing imprint of the Presbyterian Publishing Corp., to attribute the attacks on the World Trade Center brings into the U.S. religious mainstream a conspiracy theory long held by the world's jihadists.

http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index940.htm
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pooja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 08:22 PM
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1. I think Tucker covered this yesterday and attacked the man
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bananarepublican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-11-06 08:50 PM
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16. *ucker Carlson attacked the man 'cause he fears the truth!
It is great to now see a steady trickle of reporting which debunks the stupidest conspiracy of them alll i.e. the version pushed by Bush and his lobotomized cronies.

Let's all hope that this trickle becomes a fast flowing river truth which ends up reversing all that has been done by the ruling right wing freak show.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 08:24 PM
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2. Know anything about this Church? I never heard of it.
Of course, I'm not a Presby and if it wasn't in a twon near wherever I've lived, that doesn't mean a thing. I'd say this is very important news, UNLESS it's some weird church that most people recognize as being waco.
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 08:26 PM
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3. Legitimate church ...I reserved a copy of the book mentioned 8/15 release
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 08:31 PM
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5. here's another story about the other book the Presbyterian Press
just published:

Presbyterian Church publishes 9/11 conspiracy theory
Malaysia Sun
Tuesday 8th August, 2006


The Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.)'s publishing arm has released a book that says President Bush organized New York's Sept. 11 attacks.

The decision by the 160-year-old Westminster John Knox Press, the trade and academic publishing imprint of the Presbyterian Publishing Corp., to attribute the attacks on the World Trade Center brings into the U.S. religious mainstream a conspiracy theory long held by the world's jihadists.

In 'Christian Faith and the Truth behind 9/11: A Call to Reflection and Action,' author David Ray Griffin calls the United States the world's 'chief embodiment of demonic power, says he initially scoffed at 9/11 conspiracy theories.

But after investigating he concluded that the Twin Towers were brought down by controlled demolition, military personnel were given stand-down orders not to intercept hijacked flights and the 9/11 Commission, ostensibly created to uncover the truth behind the events of 9/11, 'simply ignored evidence' that the administration was involved in the attacks.

more...

http://story.malaysiasun.com/p.x/ct/9/cid/b8de8e630faf3...
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 08:29 PM
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4. The Presbyterians? They're not radical in the least. /nt
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 08:31 PM
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6. I agree with you, readmoreoften
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Bill McBlueState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 08:40 PM
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8. it's a mainline denomination
Edited on Thu Aug-10-06 08:44 PM by Bill McBlueState
The Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) is the main Presbyterian denomination in the US. The Presbyterian Church in America is a different denomination -- a splinter group from the main one, really -- that is fundamentalist.

have some wikipedia links:
Presbyterian Church (USA)
Presbyterian Church in America
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 08:46 PM
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9. Thanks. That's why I asked on Du. I knew someone would know
the truth. I did howevver read a little about the book written by that David Ray Griffin. Hmmm, he sounds a bit crazy to me.
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tinfoil tiaras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 08:48 PM
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10. i think it's like the liberal branch of the Presbyterian church
..or maybe I'm wrong?
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 08:58 PM
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12. You have heard of it
PC (USA) is the "mainline" (non-fundamentalist) branch of the Presbyterian church in the US -- the largest Presbyterian group, and the one that is in communion with the Methodist and Episcopal churches.

However, I think the headline is a bit misleading; the Presbytery did not itself endorse the MIHOP claim. It's just that the publishing arm published a MIHOP book.
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 09:24 PM
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13. The book quoted by the Pravda writer is by David Ray Griffin
Edited on Thu Aug-10-06 09:51 PM by MissWaverly
I read his New Pearl Harbor, he is not a wacko, he is Professor of Philosphy and Religion
at Claremont School of Theology in California for over 30 years, author & editor of over 30 books. The book is called Christian Faith and the truth behind 9-11. We could argue about whether he is wacko, I will post a snip from the New Pearl Harbor, page xi

This comparison has often been made for the sake of arguing that the American response to 9/11 should be similar to the American response to Pearl Harbor. Just after the president's address to the nation on September 11, 2001. Henry Kissinger posted an online article in which he said:
"The government should be charged with a systematic response that, one hopes, will end the way that the attack on Paral Harbor ended-with the destruction of the system that is responsible for
it." An editorial in Time magazine that appeared right after the attacks urged:"For once, let's
have no fatuous rhetoric about "healing."...A day cannot live in infamy without the nourishment
of rage. Let's have rage. What's needed is a unified, unifying Pearl Harbor sort of
purple American fury."

I just bought it; it's on Amazon
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Reckon Donating Member (729 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 08:40 PM
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7. Wow, that's big!
Edited on Thu Aug-10-06 08:49 PM by Reckon
Edit: I think if I was george after hearing that, I would go on vacation too!

Time for a big time strategy session!
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cool user name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 08:49 PM
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11. Kick and a resounding applause! n/t
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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 09:27 PM
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14. It's good to see a large
church finally speaking out against the fundies and the whackos behind it. It can only help in the long run to distance themselves from the shit the RRR has been pushing.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-11-06 08:00 PM
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15. Wow, and to think my lineage traces back to a man founding Presbyterianism
in America according to family lore.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-11-06 09:06 PM
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17. You gotta be kidding
The 9/11 Commission was a whitewash? You mean the government didn't tell us the truth? No way!

:sarcasm:
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