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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 05:17 PM
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Poll question: If laptops are banned on flights what will you do?
The TSA is considering banning laptops and other electronics (like cell phones) in carry-on luggage. Since checked baggage is not permitted to be locked, these items will (realistically) not be secure from theft or damage. What will you do?

Sorry, polls are turned off at Level 3.

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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 05:18 PM
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1. If they ban lap dances on planes, I'm fucking driving.
fuck that.
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Monkeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 05:19 PM
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2. Mile High club too lol
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 05:20 PM
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7. Hell, they've already banned lapdogs.
Next it will be lapidarians and lapis lazuli.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 05:23 PM
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14. How about laplanders?
Just as long as they don't try to take my big lapels.


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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 05:25 PM
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19. Make them wear identification badges.
And if that doesn't work. Put them on the no fly list!
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Fountain79 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 08:34 PM
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53. Which airline is this?
All is get is a damn bag of pretzels!!!
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 05:20 PM
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3. OMG, maybe I'll read a book or chat with my fellow passengers!
The way they did back in the Dark Ages.......

Actually, I have a work laptop but prefer not to take it; I don't have a cell phone.

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MidwestTransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 05:21 PM
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8. Don't sit next to me then!
Well you can, just identify yourself before you start chatting!
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 05:22 PM
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11. Some people actually need their laptops for their final destination.
Not as entertainment or to distract them from other passengers. I don't think that the primary reason that people bring laptops on flights is to play movies or computer games.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 06:14 PM
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37. My husband can't function at his work without his laptop.
They have an internal intranet over which they send secure contracts and such. I don't know what he will do because he travels every week, and often works from home.

I guess he'll have to drive more. What is gas now? $10 a gallon?
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Freedom_Aflaim Donating Member (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 06:16 PM
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39. exactly
I rarely open my laptop on the plane as their are security considerations in that alone (shoulder surfing etc).

However when I fly for business, having a laptop at my destination is an absolutely must. Without it, Im better off at home or office.

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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 05:23 PM
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13. That's not the point
Edited on Thu Aug-10-06 05:24 PM by Bleachers7
as I see it. There have been a lot of problems with stolen items from luggage at JFK. I would not check my laptop. Besides getting stolen, it would likely get smashed.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 06:10 PM
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35. That's what I was thinking too
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 05:25 PM
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17. Chat with 'em? Given the amount of cramming in coach, it usually seems
like I'm having SEX with them.

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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 08:28 PM
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48. books are banned on u.k. flights also
and chatting w. fellow pax who would prefer not to endure a conversation w. a stranger on a transatlantic flight is not just rude but actually painful for a lot of us
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 08:42 PM
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55. don't sit next to me either
there's a reason I pretend to watch the movie-so I don't have to talk to my fellow passengers

:bounce:
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 08:52 PM
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60. Companies like mine joke about employees who don't keep up
I just heard about a guy in our company who didn't have a cell phone and never brought his laptop with him on a trip. He was let go partially because people were under the impression that he didn't do anything. Of course that wasn't the only reason, but it just shows how addicted people are to their electronic devices.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 05:20 PM
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4. I might just stop flying, and start slowing my life down
Edited on Thu Aug-10-06 05:23 PM by Rabrrrrrr
like the old days of travel, and just take trains and ships.

No way I'm putting my expensive stuff in unlocked baggage. Hello, instant theft!

It's not just laptops, it's gonna be the couple thou worth of cameras, the cell phone, plus the laptop, plus any jewelry I might be taking (expensive cufflinks), and all the other stuff that I won't be able to carry on. People working in airports are gonna be rich soon, lifting shit out of people's luggage and taking it home.

And most times when I travel, I'm traveling for business reasons, or if on vacation for a while, I still have to do business and stay in touch with things. So I have to have my laptop.

I don't use the laptop on planes, I'd rather read and sleep and just be mellow; but I sure as hell ain't putting it my luggage.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 05:22 PM
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10. A lot of stuff gets stolen at JFK
And I am not willing to lose my laptop. They can have the phone, Blackberry, GPS.
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YDogg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 05:25 PM
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20. They'll have to pry my GPSr from my cold, dead hands, dogg.
:bounce:
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Freedom_Aflaim Donating Member (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 06:17 PM
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40. I don't care about the value of the laptop
Shit if they break it I'll just buy a new one on my amex and expense it with my company.

my concern is the value of the data on the laptop. THATS a whole 'nother story
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 05:20 PM
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5. 10 to 1 they won't.
Yuppie Businesspeople who fly for work would sooner gnaw off their own feet than check their laptops.

Guess which party yuppie businesspeople tend to vote for?
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Union Label Donating Member (451 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 08:43 PM
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56. Those types think their to good to travel with us riffraff
And besides don't they normally take private planes that don't have to follow these bullshit new guidelines.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 05:20 PM
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6. Leave the laptop at home
But the Blackberry comes with me.
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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 05:21 PM
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9. I don't have a laptop, but my wife does
but we don't have a house phone, just cells. Which would suck to have to check with luggage. What if something happens to it? I have no phone until it gets found or replaced. This is f***ing stupid! In theory you could use ANYTHING as a weapon. I am getting so sick of this crap that we need to get these assclowns out of office and out of our lives ASAP.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 05:23 PM
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12. I fly a lot,
and I always bring a book, never my laptop. It's nice to get away from the freaking computer for a few hours, and get some uninterrupted reading done for a change.
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SCRUBDASHRUB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 05:24 PM
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15. Can a laptop be FedExed?
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 05:24 PM
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16. Just about anything can be FedExed.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 05:26 PM
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21. Of course
Especially with good packaging.
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 05:26 PM
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22. Sure. It's expensive, though. /nt
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 05:51 PM
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32. Good, I hope I sit next to you, then!
The people picking me up always come meet me in baggage. As I do they. So if there's a delay, it's not an issue.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 05:25 PM
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18. i dont fly
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 05:28 PM
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23. By the way, how do we meet up with our rides if our cell phones are gone?
If the checked baggage is delayed or if you're the one unlucky person on every flight whose stuff doesn't make it.
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 05:33 PM
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25. Tampa airport has a "cellphone lot" where people wait for calls
and then drive to the terminal to pick up arrivals. Tampa used to be a great airport b/4 9/11.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 06:11 PM
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36. And there are no pay phones anymore
have you looked for one lately?
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 08:25 PM
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46. Even still, how would you pay for the call?
If the person has a cell number that's long distance, and MANY people do (I do) how do you pay anymore. And most people keep their numbers programmed into their phones. What about if you get stuck for six hours at a connecting flight? The whole thing is going to be a fiasco, IMO.
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 05:32 PM
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24. Are they going to ban digital cameras too? Shit, no way I will
check mine. Who needs pictures of your family or of your vacation anyway? :sarcasm:
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LifeDuringWartime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 05:34 PM
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26. other
i wasn't planning on doing any flying. maybe on spring break but if i can't bring my phone or computer....i dunno
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 05:36 PM
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27. Stop flying.
Not just because of the laptop ban.

I'd rather take a boat the next time I need to go overseas... and I'll likely stay there for good.

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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 06:20 PM
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41. That's easy for you to say.


Some of us can't help it!
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 06:24 PM
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42. LOL!
Edited on Thu Aug-10-06 06:24 PM by Swamp Rat
Not really, since I ain't got no money these days. I'm gonna build me a pirogue and paddle my way accross the pond. :D



edit: Cher. :D
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 08:34 PM
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54. no joke there Swamp Rat!
The last time I flew they took my laptop apart. They decided to keep the other half of the adaptor cord. That was JUST GREAT!!! :argh:

I too plan to NEVER fly again after my last experience.

Who needs to be bullied, discrimated against and physically abused? That is what happened to me.

So F you Heathrow! YOU really DO SUCK!

:kick:
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Uzybone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 05:45 PM
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28. I dont care if they ban them or not
Do people need laptops to fly?
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 05:50 PM
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30. No they need them at their destinations.
And if you have to check your laptop in an unopened bag, there is a fairly good chance it will get broken or stolen. Not to mention cameras and other delicate electronics.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 05:50 PM
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31. No,
They need them when they land. Preferably in 1 piece.
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 05:46 PM
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29. Amtrak Economy Sleeper.
Room, great food, service, comfort,... Yeah!
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pstokely Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 06:08 PM
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33. at least no connecting flights
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 06:10 PM
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34. No Luggage Monkey Touches My Machine.
Just put me on the "no fly" list. I won't be doing it anyway.
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Freedom_Aflaim Donating Member (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 06:14 PM
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38. will be flying only as a last resort
Hazard of the job is that I usually have a laptop somewhere close at all times, all the time.

If laptops become banned, flying will happen only when I really really have to, and it really far away.

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AlienGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 06:36 PM
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43. If they banned CD players, then I'd stop flying
I don't have a laptop, but I need to listen to my music or I'll go mad from boredom.

Tucker
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 07:55 PM
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44. CD players would be banned. All electronics. /nt
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 08:01 PM
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45. I don't have a laptop but I want to bring my mp3 player and other stuff.
I'm going on vacation next week and I want to bring my electronics with me. I don't feel safe leaving them in my luggage where any one of those "security" people can just steal them. I'm way more worried about this than any terrorist plot.
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 08:30 PM
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50. mrslayer, they said one of the bombs was a mp3 player!
you missed the memo, they planned to make a bomb out of a fake can of gatorade and an mp3 player

i can't make this stuff up, somebody around in LBN will have the linky for you!
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 08:47 PM
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58. I believe you.
I just think it's stupid that everyone has to suffer for this trumped up bullshit. These guys hadn't even taken the steps to do anything at all. It's like the Miami thing where people were just thinking about it.
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 08:27 PM
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47. i do not own a laptop
however i have other possessions infinitely more valuable that do not need to be separated from my person, if they must fly in checked luggage, better not to fly at all

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mr_hat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 08:30 PM
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49. Liquid-free laptops should be OK.
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 08:32 PM
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51. that is not what the guidelines said
the uk flights are not allowing ANY laptops, any electronic items, not even your key fob or cell phone -- so when your luggage is "delayed" you won't be able to call for a friend to pick you up and you won't be able to drive home either

good times

even books are not being permitted, just a plastic baggie for your passport, credit card, small enough to fit in a "pocket"
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 08:33 PM
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52. I don't fly often, and I've never flown with a laptop
Edited on Thu Aug-10-06 08:36 PM by high density
But if I can't bring my own food and soda on the plane, I will certainly think more than twice before buying my next plane ticket.

If I did fly with a laptop there's no way I'd send it as checked baggage. I think I'd rather spend to have have FedEx or UPS overnight it to my destination and back, though that might cost more than the plane ticket!
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 08:43 PM
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57. the average American gets "fucked in the drive-through" again ...
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 08:48 PM
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59. Can't stand the boredom or do my job at destination without it
I guess the airlines will be losing a bundle on this deal. Can you imagine doing the 19 hour flight to Asia without being able to do some work - and I don't think my company will want us checking our proprietary information in a unlocked piece of luggage.
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