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The Cleaner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 01:20 PM
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Check Your Driver's License. Is The Expiration Date 2008?

At large, the American people are still unaware of the issuance of the Real ID card forthcoming in May of 2008. This new national/international ID card, and its interactivity with national/international databases, can access our medical, financial, driving, Social Security, license(s), firearms registrations, and political status inside its high tech/little nano brain. In essence, it holds our private lives on a swipe-able card that is then privy to any organization, retailer, or person requesting our identification or our money. In other words, our life histories accessible upon command from one 2X3 inch card.

Having no choice but to comply, most American people will accept their new national/international ID card. It is my understanding that without the card, we will be denied bank accounts in the United States of America, a drivers license, and the right to fly on airplanes unless we have been issued a Real ID card. One might imagine that global retailers might require the Real ID to purchase food and gasoline. Take a look at your current drivers license. Check the expiration date. 2008 would be a good global guess.

For those of us who have seen United Nations military vehicles in the United States, and who have also noticed convoys of military tanks being transported through the wilderness areas of our nation the same areas that have been locked down and away from the American people via Biosphere Reserves and conservation corridors - we have realized for a great many years that, as one patriot stated, the stage was being set for difficult times on American soil the key issue that mass media ignores at its professional finest. So, with stages being set, one must also look to the timing of the Real ID card, and to 2008 in general. Let us not forget all the other paramilitary systems in our nation, like the Department of Homeland Security, FEMA, Citizens Corp groups, Neighborhood Watch groups, C.O.P.S. (Community Oriented Policing Services), the militarizing of law enforcement departments, and the many new for-hire corporations that offer private armies with weapons for a price. And then, of course, there are the U.N. peacekeeping forces, which the American military has been actively involved with for many, many decades while, simultaneously and incrementally, our leaders have been closing our homeland military bases during these same decades.

The professional timing of the Real ID card in 2008, and its mandatory issuance, brings to mind several forthcoming coincidences and issues. The collecting and databasing of all personal information of every American adult coinciding with the CFRs North American Community and all global government infrastructures in place and play, one must consider the following:

* How are domestic terrorists determined and identified?
* Who will be held in the Civilian Labor Camps on American soil?
* What is the real issue behind the identity theft propaganda?
* Why are the off-limits American wilderness areas crawling with secret military operations?
* And why the mandatory issuance of an ID card that sums up every American citizen with one swipe?

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Source: http://www.newswithviews.com/Levant/nancy53.htm
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Gruenemann Donating Member (753 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 01:23 PM
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1. I hear these new cards will be dropped
from black helicopters.
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MrCoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 01:24 PM
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5. You did not hear that.
Repeat after me. "I did not hear that." "It was a weather balloon."
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 01:26 PM
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9. Wrapped in tinfoil
I hear it can recycled into a stylish hat.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 01:23 PM
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2. Mine is
Guess that means I'll be first in line!
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Kookaburra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 01:24 PM
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3. 2011
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The Cleaner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 01:25 PM
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6. self delete
Edited on Thu Aug-10-06 01:25 PM by The Cleaner
n/t
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 01:24 PM
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4. mine's 2011... but I need a new passport AND...
Denver is the first center to adopt the chips, which will render all of us sitting targets to anyone even from many feet away in an airport with a simple electronic reader. "THERE's THE AMERICAN! SHOOT HIM/HER!!!!" or at least grab his/her identity and drain their bank account. :mad:
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 01:25 PM
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2011 here too
My driving record has been spotless for more than 20 years.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 01:25 PM
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7. 2011
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 01:25 PM
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8. Hype Hype Hype
Edited on Thu Aug-10-06 01:27 PM by MercutioATC
Is the card capable of storing medical and financial information? Sure.

Is there any plan to store medical and financial information on it? Absolutely not.


My Visa card is capable of storing my 3rd-grade report card, my last week of Google searches, and the names of all of my sexual partners since birth on the magnetic strip on the back. Does it? No...it doesn't even store a record of the purchases I use it for.

Could it? Yes. Does it? No.


Oh, and my driver's license expires in 2007
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The Cleaner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 01:29 PM
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16. But it does, however, make sense
that they would want a "snapshot" of you for identification. I believe that part is true. Through med records, etc. they can form a profile of the individual for ID.

Interesting that some here have 2011 as a date. I personally have 2008.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 01:36 PM
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22. They don't need a "snapshot"...and it'd cost more to record.
They need an inexpensive biometric component. There are four that are possible with today's technology that provide the unique identifying characteristics they need:

1) Fingerprint. Easiest and least costly, but easiest to corrupt.

2) Iris scan. More expensive, but also more difficult to fake.

3) Retina scan. See #2.

4) Bone scan. Expensive, involves x-rays, but impossible to corrupt as far as I know.


How would a record of your spending habits and bouts with colitis provide them with a "snapshot" useful for identification?
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soup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 02:01 PM
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28. "Interesting that some here have 2011 as a date." ?
It's based on when the license was obtained/renewed.
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Freedom_Aflaim Donating Member (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 01:26 PM
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10. 2010
Given of course that most folks license will expire within the next 4 years because of the way that licenses have traditionally been issued, about 25% of people reading this will say "wow...thats Amazing..he's right."

Get your tin foil while you can. After the UN invades, tin foil will be banned.
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 01:28 PM
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12. Apparently the UN has already invaded!
No wonder they don't have anyone to spare for Lebanon or Darfur!
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 01:27 PM
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11. Mine is August 2009
Looks like I'll be late to the conspiracy riots!
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 01:29 PM
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15. Nov 2009.
Yuppers.

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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 01:28 PM
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13. It's the mark of the beast
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Blue Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 01:28 PM
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14. Mine expires in 2013.
This world is getting a little too Orwellian for me. Why bother with the formality of these cards at all and go ahead and staple bar codes on our foreheads.
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 01:30 PM
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18. It's a shame the world is going to end in 2012.
You should ask them to pro-rate your fees.

http://survive2012.com/why_2012_maya.php

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Blue Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 01:38 PM
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26. I don't think the DMV pro-rates anything...
:)
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The Cleaner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 01:31 PM
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20. Or insert a chip in ya...
n/t
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americanstranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 01:30 PM
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17. My expiration date is 2012.
So, that means I get an extra four years of...something.

- as
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 01:31 PM
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19. MINE EXPIRES MAY 2008
Mississippi licences are good for four years and they expire on your birthday. My military retiree ID expires on my 65th birthday in 2019 when I go on medicare. Eventually military id cards will have your medical record on the back. Not a bad idea to have your medical record in your back pocket if you are in a combat zone.
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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 01:35 PM
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21. Oh, those guys in the NGA, what a bunch of tin foil wearing nuts!
Here's the link to the text version of the National Governors Association, National Conference of State Legislatures and American Association of Motor Vehicle Administrators concerns with the Real ID act and its implementation and its stated "official purpose". What a bunch of loonies they are.

http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:Aywb5tIGfeQJ:www.ng...

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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 01:37 PM
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23. 2009 is my license expiration date
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McKinneyIsAHero Donating Member (67 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 01:37 PM
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24. UN-Baiting >_>
Libertarian Party stuff it looks like and I don't support it.
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sevenleagueboots Donating Member (44 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 01:37 PM
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25. My name's in the National Data Bank....renewal 2 weeks ago was denied
...if you want chilling news CHECK THIS OUT:

http://www.321gold.com/editorials/willie/willie081006.h...
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zcflint09 Donating Member (263 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 01:42 PM
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27. My Michigan ID expires in 2008--BUT
But my Arizona ID (where I will be moving back soon) doesn't expire until you are 65, and my passport doesn't expire until 2016 I believe.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 02:24 PM
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29. Wow I guess the stinking load salesman sees a market here.
:eyes:
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 03:02 PM
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30. My drivers license expires at the end of 2009....BUT
that doesn't mean I don't believe they want to implement Real I.D. or go further than that by micro chipping us all, because that is EXACTLY their intention. :mad:

Yesterday, I took 10 of those god damned little RFID chips out of 10 of my kids newer DVDs purchased in the last 6-8 months! TEN! I was livid! Into the trash those f-ers went! :grr:

Check this out;

http://www.spychips.com /

From the overview:
"Though many RFID proponents appear focused on inventory and supply chain efficiency, others are developing financial and consumer applications that, if adopted, will have chilling effects on consumers' ability to escape the oppressive surveillance of manufacturers, retailers, and marketers. Of course, government and law enforcement will be quick to use the technology to keep tabs on citizens, as well.


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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 03:26 PM
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31. What does it matter when our licenses expire? They're not drivers licenses
They will just specify that our OLD drivers' licenses are only good to show that we are driving legally. Old DLs will not be adequate for prove of ID. You'll need the REAL ID to get on planes, apply for jobs, etc. This isn't "tinfoil" material. This is reality. The federal government already sells the information from our DLs to marketers. AOL keeps gigs of extensive data on their users: every click is recorded into a unique profile. We know this because they were already handing over recorded instant messaging sessions of private citizens to the government after the 1996 bombings. MySpace is AT MINIMUM becoming a marketing database.

We already know this. It's just reality. They may not record your political party or your financials. Or they may. It's their choice. It's your choice to trust them or not. I think they'll do whatever they can get away with.
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 03:30 PM
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32. What if you have a CDL?
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 04:35 PM
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35. I'm think it's going to be chaos in the short run.
They simply can't demand that the entire nation switch by May 11 2008. The new IDs aren't even out yet. I know that the DMV in NJ, for example, is already an hours long wait to get a license. I imagine in the short term, a copy of your CDL will work to prove you have the right to drive commercially, but quickly your information will be processed to your REAL ID. It will contain computerized information of exactly what you are permitted to drive and the account will be changed remotely. Just like a bank card can read a distant account. I assume it will be like that. Mind you, this is just a (slightly) educated guess.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 03:44 PM
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33. 2012
which is when the Mayans say we're all fucked anyway so Whoo Hoo!!!
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slaveplanet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 04:00 PM
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34. 2010
but I must say the one I just turned in was 6 yrs or more before it expired, this new one which looks the same is only good for 4 yrs. Let it expire for more than 30 days and then get pulled over, It's a $30 fine, that means it'll cost $115 after all the court fees if one ignors the expiration.
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