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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 11:28 AM
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If bush knew about this plot for days, why didn't he warn us?
too busy clearing brush and fundraising on his vacation?

five years after nine eleven and he still gets terror warnings and forgets to warn us.
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Pierre.Suave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 11:29 AM
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1. He was looking for...
...his copy of "my pet goat"
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 11:29 AM
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2. Maybe they wanted to arrest the suspects first?
Or I suppose they could have had a super secret announcement available ONLY to the US citizens to let them know and not tip off the suspects.
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 11:35 AM
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5. So why no noticeable increase in security at the airports
prior to the arrests?

Want hand wave that one away too?
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 11:46 AM
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14. I know you have all the answers
and that I don't.

I'm just guessing here and don't have access to your inside information.

My guess is that they were monitoring the suspects by watching where they were going and were listening to their phone calls and knew when they planned their mission. My guess is that if all of a sudden the TSA prohibited the types of carryon items that they planned to use, they would know someone was on to them.

Please don't be too mean to me for being an idiot. I'm just guessing. I know you are right and this is a plot to distract from the world shaking events in CT the other day.

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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 11:33 AM
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3. Or at least increase security at the airports?
Why not ? Because there was no credible threat.
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 11:33 AM
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4. he had a vacation to plan
it's no skin off his nose, he flies on air force one w. a full bar of liquids to enjoy

too bad about us chickens
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 11:36 AM
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6. because making the investigation public would impede the investigation?
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 11:45 AM
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13. maybe exposing it immediately would also foil it?
I don't see how sending out a warning to flyers would somehow be a bad thing.
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 11:53 AM
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16. I guess one would have to know more about the investigation to know
according to the official line (or at least, what I heard on the news), british authorities were gathering a great deal of info from the investigation, but had to cut it off suddenly because they came to believe that the executuion of the attack might be imminent. I have no idea the truth of that.

But it does make sense that the longer one keeps the investigation open, the more information they can get (and the more useful that information might be), not just about a specific plot but about the organization and the structure behind the plot. Sending out a warning to flyers would also send a warning to plotters and to the rest of that organization/structure. Also, we don't really want authorities flooding our circuits with warnings every time they begin an investigation--we've gotten enough false alarms over the last five years as it is.
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bigbrother05 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 11:37 AM
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7. Wanted us to be sorry for ousting Joe
waited to see if he got in on his own. Guess we know that the "boss" is trying to help his old buddy.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 11:38 AM
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8. He didn't want to scare the children
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Xenotime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 11:38 AM
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9. It means that the UK has him like a puppet...
They let him know but told him not to tell.
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deminks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 11:39 AM
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10. "mass murder on an unimaginable scale."
I wonder where that phrase came from. Just askin.
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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 11:53 AM
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15. You Mean Like In IraqA?......nt
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 11:42 AM
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11. if he mentioned before the election people would have bitched about that
timing too.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 11:44 AM
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12. The UK has known about it for months. Would it have happened if Joe
had won CT? Would it have happened if 60% of Americans did not disapprove of Bush's wars? Would it have happened if Israel and the US weren't becoming world pariahs for blowing up Muslims around the world?

It's politics at it's worst. It's not about planes and safety. It's about maintaining fear to maintain the terror wars.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 11:58 AM
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17. Bush awaited outcome of Lieberman election and is now using
using attacks to get the Bush/Lieberman connection off the front pages and it's working.

We'll see as we get closer to mid-terms just how serious this latest attack is/was or it like other BS. will simply fade into oblivion...
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Nashyra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 12:21 PM
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18. If in fact that is real
There were no warnings to any of the airline personel. If they had sent this warning they most likely would have warned the terrorist that security was on to them, thus disbanding until the focus went elsewhere allowing them to perfect there plot for use at a later date. the idiot knew what the BRITISH were working on but not enought to give a comprehensive explanation to anyone else. I think they did that on purpose. I think the message is that we are safer when we have a gov't that can work well with other countries to help with security issues and that we need a CIC that has a brain and knows how to help dipomatically instead of being a hinderance to everyon else in the world.
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