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Kingshakabobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 09:24 AM
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Attn: Freeper mental midgets: It was the POLICE - namely Scotland Yard...
......that thwarted this plot - NOT the U.S. Marines - Not the U.S. Army -
NOT the Alabama National Guard.

The "war on terror" IS a law enforcement issue.

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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 09:26 AM
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1. BINGO!!!!!!
Freepers are paid trolls..... they don't give a damn about facts.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 09:28 AM
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7. There's one trolling the boards right now.
I've been alerting his posts.
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 09:33 AM
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13. Who? Me?
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 09:34 AM
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16. No, silly.
I can't say who it is.
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 09:37 AM
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22. I Think I Already Know Who
I was just gonna say... I wish I was paid for just blogging. Then I could quit my full-time job. :P
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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 09:34 AM
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15. one? I've run into a couple just this morning
or at least they sure seem like it. no profile, caps lock, bad spelling, rightwing talking points, argumentative - you know; a seriesly hugh problem
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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 09:35 AM
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20. *snort*
It's an infestation alright.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 09:42 AM
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23. That is a sign of a new product being rolled out. I thought they didn't
like rolling out new marketing campaigns in August?
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 09:49 AM
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27. QWIT STOCKING ME!!!!1111!!!
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1932 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 09:26 AM
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2. good point.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 10:18 AM
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32. CBS: "U.S. Aware of Plot for Days"
http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/i_video/videos500251.sh...

U.S. Aware Of Plot For Days

Jim Axelrod spoke with Press Secretary Tony Snow about the U.S.'s involvement in the British investigation of the alleged terrorist plot. Snow says President Bush has been aware of the plot for days.

They also knew about the 9/11 plot for 18 months

It was planned at an al-Qaeda summit in Kuala Lumpur that was attended by Atta's roommate and the Flt. 77 hijackers. The CIA videotaped the whole thing and then followed the Flt 77 hijackers as they entered the US on 01/15/00 - the FBI liason at the CIA Counter-Terrorism Center was ordered not to send a cable about their entry to the FBI National Security Office in NY.

The Agency and a couple foreign intel agencies illegally monitored the plot inside the US without obtaining FISA warrants. For some reason we don't understand yet, that surveillance was relaxed enough in the late summer of 2001 so Atta and the gang could carry off the plot that the Agency had told the Bushites about much earlier. See the link below for all the details, citations, sources, links.

See, Scoop: UQ Wire: THE CRIMES OF 9/11 (Part 4)In early summer 2001 , US officials received numerous warnings from domestic and foreign intelligence agencies that al-Qaeda terrorists planned ...
www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0310/S00257.htm

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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 09:27 AM
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3. Freeper motto:
"All medulla oblongata, all the time"

;-)
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 10:06 AM
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30. snicker snicker...
:)
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Kingshakabobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 10:25 AM
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34. Jay Marvin calls them "Brain-stems." LOL nt
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PatrioticLeftie Donating Member (909 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 09:36 PM
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50. How can that be their motto?
They have no idea what it means.
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 09:27 AM
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4. Best post of the week. Recommended.
Edited on Thu Aug-10-06 09:27 AM by Richardo
:thumbsup:

The Israelis might want to take note, too.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 10:18 AM
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33. Sadly, THEY seem to have un-learned the lesson.
Remember Munich? Did they bomb the countries where the perpetrators were hiding? What if that happened now instead of 1972?
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 09:27 AM
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5. Not even Rumsferatu's SSB!

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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 09:29 AM
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9. ewww!!
:thumbsup:
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 09:34 AM
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14. Way'at cat_girl25!
:hi:


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Crankie Avalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 09:27 AM
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6. Why do you hate "the troopsTM?"
Where's your ribbon??? :silly:
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 09:28 AM
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8. Let's invade the UK.
Obviously they are harboring terrorists.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 09:29 AM
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10. And Lieberman lost his election on Tuesday
in case anyone drank the terror koolaid and forgot.
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Kingshakabobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 09:31 AM
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12. I was going to put a "Miami Seven disclaimer" in but I decided to.....
.....keep it simple.
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BooScout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 09:31 AM
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11. Uh not to be picky........but no it wasn't exactly.......
They were acting on intelligence supplied by MI5. They operate under the authority of the Home Secretary....currently John Reid, who at the moment is in charge of the UK whilst Tony is taking a holiday. The War on Terror may be a law enforcement issue, but there's politics still muddying the waters tyvm.
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Kingshakabobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 09:35 AM
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19. Um, You are being picky. I think my point gets across.
This wasn't foiled by 19 year olds riding around in un-armored Humvees.
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BooScout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 09:44 AM
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24. My point is your point was wrong.
Military Intelligence 5. Nuff said.
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Kingshakabobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 09:47 AM
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26. Next time I won't be so nuanced for the dense freepers among us. nt
Edited on Thu Aug-10-06 09:50 AM by Kingshakabobo
edit to add: where does MI5 fit in the Alabama national guard?
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Damndifino Donating Member (103 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 10:44 AM
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37. Slight nitpick
True, MI5 stands for "Military Intelligence Section 5". Problem is, the entity you're referring to isn't called "MI5", and hasn't been since 1931, when it was renamed the "Security Service". It's attached to the Home Office, not the military. Your mistake is understandable, since the defunct name "MI5" is so popularly entrenched, even the Security Service itself uses it. It's a nickname, and since it has no official standing, it could be argued that it doesn't really stand for anything.
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BooScout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 10:47 AM
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40. Now that's nitpicking........
Last time I checked it was still called MI5 and that was on the BBC here in the UK about 2 minutes ago. I never said it was attached to the Military either........you just assumed that I did because I said the M stood for Military....again a simple mistake on your part.
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Kingshakabobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 10:53 AM
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41. You are wrong. MI5 is a nickname. A leftover from the 30s.
Edited on Thu Aug-10-06 10:55 AM by Kingshakabobo
http://www.mi5.gov.uk/output/Page119.html#2

>>>We are a civilian organisation and members of staff have no executive powers, such as the authority to detain or arrest people. We are not a "secret police force".

Our investigations are shared with the police or other law enforcement agencies when there is a prospect of the arrest of people who are committing or planning criminal offences. Over a number of years we have developed and applied procedures that enable our intelligence to be admitted as evidence in criminal proceedings (see "Evidence and Disclosure"). In addition, we may recommend to the Home Office or to the Foreign & Commonwealth Office that known terrorists or foreign intelligence officers, for example, be refused entry to the UK or be deported or expelled. However, the decision whether to do so lies outside the Service.
---------------------------------------
"1929 MI5 is renamed as the Defence Security Service."

"1931 The Defence Security Service becomes the Security Service, the name by which it is still known today. However, many writers and journalists still use "MI5" as a short alternative to our official name."


http://www.mi5.gov.uk/output/Page403.html

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Kingshakabobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 10:44 AM
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38. see post #36.....you are soooo 1929
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gordianot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 09:37 AM
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21. MI-5 is an acronym for Military Intelligence Section 5
Not only politics but military.
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Kingshakabobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 10:42 AM
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36. Not as of 1929
Edited on Thu Aug-10-06 10:51 AM by Kingshakabobo
"1929 MI5 is renamed as the Defence Security Service."

"1931 The Defence Security Service becomes the Security Service, the name by which it is still known today. However, many writers and journalists still use "MI5" as a short alternative to our official name."


http://www.mi5.gov.uk/output/Page403.html

http://www.mi5.gov.uk/output/Page119.html#2

>>We are a civilian organisation and members of staff have no executive powers, such as the authority to detain or arrest people. We are not a "secret police force".

Our investigations are shared with the police or other law enforcement agencies when there is a prospect of the arrest of people who are committing or planning criminal offences. Over a number of years we have developed and applied procedures that enable our intelligence to be admitted as evidence in criminal proceedings (see "Evidence and Disclosure"). In addition, we may recommend to the Home Office or to the Foreign & Commonwealth Office that known terrorists or foreign intelligence officers, for example, be refused entry to the UK or be deported or expelled. However, the decision whether to do so lies outside the Service.

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gordianot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 10:55 AM
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42. I stand corrected.
I do wonder where they recruit mission specialist?
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Kingshakabobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 10:59 AM
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44. From the Manchester Girl Scouts - a rough bunch. nt
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gordianot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 11:09 AM
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45. Probably correct
""

General Baden Powell who founded scouting was a spy.
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Damndifino Donating Member (103 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 10:45 AM
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39. No it isn't
Edited on Thu Aug-10-06 10:46 AM by Damndifino
See post #37 above.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 09:46 AM
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25. But exactly. The MI-5. Like the CIA, the Mossad. Not an army.
Use the Mossad, the CIA, and the MI-5 rather than just bombing Britain to get rid of the terrorists. What a concept.
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gordianot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 10:05 AM
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29. MI-5 is in many ways unique.
They actually plan missions with specific outcomes (MOSSAD does the same thing they probably learned this from the British).

Who really knows what the CIA and other well funded lettered agencies does anymore now that it is almost entirely a controlled political entity and professionals are under attack by political hacks. The Bush Cheney culture of secrecy and subversion of the law fits well into renegade elements of the intelligence community.
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Xenotime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 09:35 AM
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17. Exactly...This "war" is miguided for oil profits for *
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 09:35 AM
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18. They should have had the military lob bombs into their neighborhoods
Level the entire countryside. Military might is the only thing these terra'ists understand!
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mr blur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 09:53 AM
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28. Actually, it wasn't the police, it was MI5
Spooks. That old oxymoron "Military Intelligence".
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BooScout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 10:10 AM
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31. I have been trying to tell them that Mr Blur.......
But they don't want to listen to me. :shrug:

And now somebody want's to know how MI5 fits in the Alabama National Guard.......it may take years for me to figure that one out. :wtf:
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Kingshakabobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 10:58 AM
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43. see: post #36 and #41 et al. above
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RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 10:42 AM
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35. Breaking - Good Old Fashion Police Work THWARTS Terror!
What a concept!
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geniph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 03:48 PM
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47. I totally misread that...
I thought you were saying the Fashion Police had thwarted the terrorists.
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RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 05:00 PM
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48. The Fashion Police could thwart terrorist too!
Bill Maher's argument - Unmarried Muslim men need to get laid!
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 02:43 PM
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46. What a quaint idea. So much less bloody. K&R for neatness sake!
:kick:
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 05:06 PM
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49. this does suggest that now
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