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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 07:49 AM
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OK, now I'm pissed
Chertoff and Gonzo suggested, in no uncertain terms, that this was a Al Qaida action based in the UK.

Let's look at the "facts" as disclosed so far.

a) all 21 arrested were domestic Brit citizens.
b) they were well organized
c) they were working in concert
d) they planned to combine two fluids to make an explosive.
e) they were targetting US-bound flights.


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And from this they come up with Al Qaida? Exceuse me, but bullshit.
a) if all were brit citizens, how do we know that they weren't planning to take revenge on Britney Spears or Paris Hilton, or worse, McDonalds? Anyone want to bet that over time the 21 will decrease to 10, then 5, and after november, 1 or 2? Of course, being domestic BRIT citizens is the most powerful reason to call them Al Qaida.

b) What? ONLY AQ knows how to talk, plan and coordinate? Assuming this attack was going to occur, you have to be a Wahhabi trained muslim in order to read more than one plane schedule at any time? Since when does organization equate to muslim terrorist cells? If that were the case, Karl Rove's election plans could also fall under that definition.

c) Working in concert? LIke a sports team? impossible for anyone other than a Saudi trained in Afghanistan or Pakistan. absolutely impossible.

d) duh. Take 4 parts glycerine. (the purer, the better) Get ice from the stew for your vodka. cool it off. Take 2 parts Nitric acid. Take 1 part Sulphuric acid. Mix carefully within banging, or friction. The globular stuff can be washed off with water in the lavoratory. Once you collect it, and rinse off the sulphuric and other liquids, you en up with nitroglycerin.
Nitro explodes with great force in small amounts. In fact, the warmer it gets, the more unstable it is and the more likely to blow. You can mix this in your garage in 15 minutes.
but of course, only Al Qaida would have the "techincal" knowledge to mix two or more liquids to create "an explosive".

This smells. Something is rotten about this whole event. I simply cannot trust our government anymore.
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philb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 07:57 AM
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1. I'm Sure
Al-Queda will appreciate your vote of confidence
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 07:58 AM
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2. Al Queda is only one of about 400 terrorist groups
the fact that they keep using "al queda" is them trying to instill a pavlovian response in the public.

of course, the ironic thing is, Al Queda was actually formed by the CIA to fight the russians in Afghanistan. But we never mention that.
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 08:00 AM
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3. They figure the sheeple
don't have the brains to figure this out. I can easily think of a dozen explosive/chemical weapons built with items found at your local grocery or drug store. I learned how to do this 40-odd years ago by going to the public library. :banghead: :banghead: :sarcasm:
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ProdigalJunkMail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 08:01 AM
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4. I think someone might have noticed the fumes
from the making of nitroglycerin...and trying to mix that stuff together at your seat on that little table they give you is a pain in the arse. Trying it in the bathroom wouldn't be a whole lot better. And the other fun part would trying to explain why you are carrying Sulphuric Acid onto a plane (if anyone asked).

Just my $0.02

sP
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 08:07 AM
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5. They can say anything they
want to keep the proles in line. Fear is their monger and this is like manna from heaven for them.

bush&blair went into Iraq instead of looking for osamabinhidin.. for a long time now. bush&blair got distracted big time..bush and blair need to go to the Hague.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 08:09 AM
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6. One analyst on CNN
even anticipated a tape from Osama. Who exactly is buying this bullshit?
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salitine Donating Member (49 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 08:15 AM
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7. Leiberman/terrorist connection.
Leibermennsch, Bush's lapdog, lost yesterday. QUICK! Arrrest some terrorists! The bbc didn't say the terrorists were going to attack today! THINK! (no insult ment. I'm kinda begging you to see through the BS. Terrorists, mabey. The timing, perfect! VOTE FOR REPUBLICIANS, OR TERRORISTS will eat your babies the day after a vote!
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megatherium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 08:16 AM
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8. I think you're right, they aren't al Qaeda. I bet they're Hezbollah.
They were going to bomb the planes on August 22, the date the Iranians have mentioned as being significant.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 08:17 AM
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9. Not syrian? you sure?
damn. there goes that theory.
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 08:19 AM
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10. May I add: Rumor has it they've known of this plot for some time.
Why the 'red' now?

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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 08:33 AM
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11. So why have we stopped hunting for Bin Ladden?
Edited on Thu Aug-10-06 08:34 AM by fasttense
If they honestly believe it is Al Qaida, then maybe they should start looking for Bin Ladden again. I understand he's real tall and thin and maybe on dialysis.
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