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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 06:13 AM
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Why do these crazy terrorists want to kill Innocent Americans?
Are they crazy? What POSSIBLE reason would these whackos have to kill us? Cspan callers are always saying, "these people wanna kill us", I just have to occasionally wonder why?

Do you ever wonder why? Why they hate us? Did they just decide to hate us and attack us out of the clear blue sky? Were they just bored? Can anyone answer me that?

No one ever, ever, ever addresses this question.
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billyskank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 06:16 AM
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1. Are you serious?
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 06:19 AM
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3. No - he's pointing out that the fundie, neo-con crowd all
say "the crazy terra-ists" want to kill us M'urkins, but they never admit it MIGHT have something to do with they way America has treated their region of the world.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 06:37 AM
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9. No, I think they're partly serious. A worthy exercise, anyway.
I've been thinking about this lately, too. You really *don't* get to see/hear discussions on the aims and issues of the "enemy," which makes it difficult to evaluate the potential success of our actions. (though we all know enough to know that Bush's actions appear to have been almost robotically controlled by bin Laden)

Why *do* they "want to kill" us? What *are* the stated and/or known goals of the various terrorist organizations and of each of the countries in the Middle East? What is the historical context of each? (What else needs to be asked?)

To keep things simple, what books more concisely and accurately address the above?

Things I've heard are bin Laden's goals/complaints...
- Get US soldiers out of holy land, Saudi Arabia (done. though now I expect the goal is to have us out of any Middle East country)
- Increase the cost of oil (bin Laden felt the price was too low, and that it was robbing ME countries of their potential wealth)
- Replace Saddam Hussein's dictatorship in Iraq w/ an Islamic theocracy (getting there)
- Induce the United States to invade a Middle Eastern country, in order to rally the ME world against the US and drain the US economically (as they did the Russians in Afghanistan). A direct overthrow of the US would not be necessary if the US were to be lured in to a drawn-out war, as the country could be brought to its knees economically. (getting there)

When you wonder about the Right Wing talking point of "we haven't been hit since 9/11, so Bush's war in Iraq is protecting us," try to evaluate the statement against the bullets above. Maybe they haven't hit us again since 9/11 since a direct military overthrow is not the aim or goal or even a possibility. They can accomplish everything they want by simply draining us economically, and we're playing their game perfectly. Direct attacks are only necessary if they need to provoke an action, and that hasn't been necessary since Bush foolishly invaded Iraq.
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 06:17 AM
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2. Well, the jihadist ideology...
...sees no difference between non-Islamic (and thus evil) governments, and the people who either support those governments actively, or implicitly support them by their lack of violent armed revolution against said governments. This is pretty clear if you look at what happened in Algeria during their civil war. Eventually the jihadists wound up fighting each other, since each thought the other was unsufficiently jihad-y and pure.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 06:21 AM
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4. Did you hear the caller that said al Qaida is jealous
of Hezzbolah for grabbing all the headlines.

:shrug:
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theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 06:26 AM
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5. Terrorist bombs discovered on planes in UK airports!
All headed for Israel and Iraq, the cargo of 100, 5000 lb bombs were found to be clearly marked with the stamp, "Made in the USA".
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 06:29 AM
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6. These rabid WJ callers are quite mad and scary.
One said that Democrats should just "go over there and join their Islamic friends" and you could hear the hatred.

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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 06:31 AM
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7. As a comedian said many moons ago ...
"Who is this Allah guy and what does he have against airplanes? I'm Catholic and I don't freak out every time I see a piece of wood."
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 06:31 AM
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8. Maybe because our bombs killed their innocent women and children?
Afterall, you don't blow away 100,000+ Iraqis in the Arab World and not expect some people to be pissed off enough to want to "even the score."
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 06:37 AM
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10. Are they still mad about THAT?
Man, talk about holding a grudge.
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 06:43 AM
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11. Our pretzeldent told us why
Because they hate us for our freedoms. I assume that's why he's taking our freedoms away from us. Clever idea. The terrorists won't hate us anymore when we're as bereft of liberty and hope as they are.

And if you believe that....
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 07:21 AM
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12. Anyone ask the DC snipers - they thought they had a legitimate gripe
Almost everyone thinks they have a legitimate reason when they murder someone and many are mad about something.
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postulater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 07:56 AM
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13. "Why Do People Hate America?"
by Ziauddin Sardar and Merryl Wyn Davies published by The Disinformation Company. www.disinfo.com

The cover has an endorsement by Chomsky "Contains valuable information and insights that we should know, over here, for our own good, and the world's."
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OnionPatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 08:05 AM
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14. I'll second that recommendation
I gave that book to my sister a few years back. She's liberal but not really involved in politics so she was getting caught up in this "They hate us because of our freedom" propaganda. I sent her the book. After reading it, she said she didn't know why the real reasons weren't more obvious to her before. I know why.....the lying propaganda machine we call television news.
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 01:26 PM
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15. KIK
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