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althecat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 02:33 AM
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"NORAD/Cheney Lied People Died" MSM News Blackout Gives Kiwi Site A March
Democratic Underground Exclusive....
By Scoop Co-Editor (& skier) And DUer Althecat aka Alastair Thompson
"NORAD/Cheney Lied People Died" MSM News Blackout Gives Kiwi Site A March



http://www.scoop.co.nz/#ed
" VF Bombshell: Hijack Exercise Disrupted 911 Response - NORAD & Dick Cheney Lied For 5 Years On Feb 19 2002 Scoop published a seminal article detailing ... "

"NORAD/Cheney Lied People Died" US MSM News Blackout Gives Kiwi Website A Global March On "American Vice President Lied On TV About 911 News Angle..."



As at 7pm 10 August NZT(GMT+12)the first "norad cheney most relevant" Google News result is Scoop.co.nz (second is brad-blog)...
See....
http://news.google.com/news?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8...

...and...

...the fourth most relevant query result is also Scoop when a search is made simply for "NORAD" (the sixth most relevant query result is NORAD moving out of its mountain lair."
http://news.google.com/news?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8...

This delivers
http://www.scoop.co.nz/#ed
" VF Bombshell: Hijack Exercise Disrupted 911 Response - NORAD & Dick Cheney Lied For 5 Years On Feb 19 2002 Scoop published a seminal article detailing ... "

Which - lets face it - is probably what you are looking for if searching for news about NORAD.

...and...

...3/4 of the google news top 4 (& 4 of top 10) Google "norad most recent" links are to Scoop.co.nz .....
See...
http://news.google.com/news?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8...

...and...
... the first 11 entries for search "norad cheney" by date link to Scoop.co.nz...
See...
http://news.google.com/news?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8...

Now admitedly this is partly due to aspects of how Google News reads Scoop pages. But if anyone in America was writing about either NORAD or Dick Cheney - or preferrably both - then the above would probably not be the case. (NOTE THAT THIS INCLUDES THE BLOGOSPHERE....)

In order searching for news about NORAD the items that mention this issue at all are mainly syndicated republications of earlier pieces...

ROBERT SHEER'S "Why We Don't Know Our Enemy" which mentions the news in passing occupies slots
14 hours old http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-scheer/why-we-dont...
16 hours old http://www.thenation.com/doc/20060814/scheer
&
19 hours old http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronic...
August 8 - Working For Change - http://www.workingforchange.com/article.cfm?ItemID=2120...
August 8 - TruthDig - http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/20060808_robert_sch... /

Then we move to August 7
Knowingly false testimony on 9/11?
http://www.thenewstribune.com/news/nationworld/story/59...

Book: Sept. 11 Panel doubted Pentagon
Santa Fe New Mexican, NM - Aug 7, 2006

Pentagon: Officials Didn't Lie to 9/11 Panel
NewsMax.com, FL - Aug 6, 2006

Agency: No 9/11 lie from military
Arkansas Democrat-Gazette (subscription), AR - Aug 6, 2006

And we are now back into the wire service reports published EVERYWHERE which said that the Rolling Stone report did not contain what it clearly does!

I find it hard to understand what is on its face the biggest case of collective news amnesia in US history.... and there have been a few huge ones lately.

These search results indicate that this subject is not even being blogged about very much....

Just to remind you what happened last week....

...

Oh nevermind... clearly it is insufficiently important. Otherwise you would be writing about it right?

al

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althecat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 02:38 AM
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1. Anyone Want To Help Keep Score On This One?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

Not sure what searches to use to measure this time round. With the DSM I counted relevant Yahoo and Google news matches over 24 hour periods.

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althecat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 07:41 AM
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31. Fri 11 August 12am NZT: 10 - 7 - 76
DATA EXPLANATION: Counts of Google News Results given specific query data. Excluding repeated Scoop.co.refs initially. Total numbers of results delivered by Google News. Please update these numbers whenever....

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&lr=&rls=GGLG%2CGGLG%3...

"Norad+Cheney" = 10

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&lr=&rls=GGLG%2CGGLG%3...

"Norad+Nasypany" = 7

http://news.google.com/news?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8...

"Norad+Vanity Fair" = 76


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et in Arcadia ego Donating Member (88 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 03:16 AM
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2. hmm
I mean this in the nicest possible way, but is it possible for you to reformat this post, as the information is definately important, but the presenation of the data is so erratic I can't make heads or tails of what's being said here..
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althecat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 03:34 AM
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3. Short Version of this post....
The US Media & Blogosphere have been so slow to report the NORAD Tapes issue that if you search on Google you find almost nothing but SCoop.co.nz a website in New Zealand. Go figure?
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althecat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 03:40 AM
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4. Hi et in arcadia.... just in case you were confused about the skier ref.
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althecat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 03:44 AM
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5. I might add that I am a bit prone to posting vaguely interesting and...
... incoherent threads about Google News.... threads which I tend to be the only one posting too - the DSM one being a recent example. And in this case i will most probably be doing so - afterall someone needs to keep score on just how catatonic the great USA MSM is getting.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 05:06 AM
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13. Really...
... this guy's mania is conflicting with my ADD. :)

To the OP: meant in good fun!
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althecat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 05:22 AM
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16. .... and long shall it continue to be so. No let up for US ADD sufferers..
..not on my watch. I will smoke them out of their holes.
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althecat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 06:11 AM
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24. .... OTOH sendero, what if its all in my mind....
... maybe it isn't an important story?
... maybe its been done to death already?
... maybe its a Google malfunction?
... maybe Dick Cheney doesn't need to be asked any questions?
... maybe its ok for VPs to lie to Congressional Commission's of Inquiry and the Public?
... maybe I missed the memo and my media career is over?

:)

Gosh I really am getting manic!


To the OP: meant in good fun!
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althecat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 03:47 AM
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6. Behold The "NORAD/Pentagon Lied People Died" MSM News Blackout...
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althecat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 03:48 AM
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7. ^^ This post received 22 recommendations n/t
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althecat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 03:49 AM
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8. Vote this thread up and help take the US Media off its medication....
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althecat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 04:10 AM
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9. Those voting are hereby granted permission to leave pithy remarks too....
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althecat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 04:50 AM
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11. Thankyou DU.... one more....
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althecat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 05:13 AM
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14. .....
DU

:you rock:

After all these years....
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laylah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 04:50 AM
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10. The MSM has
"blacked out" so many important stories these past 5 years, what's another one? :sarcasm: Gladly K&R

Jenn
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althecat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 05:01 AM
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12. This time its not just the MSM..... Even Will Pitt is slow on this one...
Not that I expect that will remain the case. I wonder if in this case we may have a truth revealed which is just too horrible to contemplate. DU is full of 911ers and for a long time their tin-foil has been sent off to hide in a back-room. Much of the reason for that was a complete absence of official corroboration to the well reasoned speculation of us net junkies. Last week that changed.... NORAD released tapes which prove that much of the tinfoil - and in particular the fact that NORAD lied repeatedly and was unable to respond effectively because of simultaneous war games - is factual.

....

For my part I occasionally write something and will definitely be doing a piece on this. But even I am still digesting it. OTOH.... if I was a reporter in the US and had the phone number of Dick Cheney's press secretary I would be picking up a phone, getting a no-comment, and writing a report saying.

Vice President Dick Cheney today refused to answer questions on his behind closed-doors testimony before the 911 Commission which is beleived to have included discussion of the issue of whether a shoot-down order had been given for flight 93.

Recently released NORAD tapes show that - contrary to Pentagon and DoD evidence to the 911 commission - NORAD had not in fact even identified that flight 93 had been hijacked at the time it crashed into a field in Pennsylvannia.

A spokesman for the Vice President told XXX that Mr Cheney would not be commenting on his secret testimony to the commission as that would undermine the executive privilege of his office.

In its report of 2004 the 911 Commission found....


And filing it to my editor.
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althecat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 05:44 AM
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21. self-delete dupe...
Edited on Thu Aug-10-06 05:45 AM by althecat
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althecat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 05:21 AM
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15. UK Guardian: "The tapes seriously damage the credibility of ...the [VP]"
One organisation that can call a spade a spade.... the UK Guardian...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/september11/story/0,,1835906,...
9/11 tapes expose flaws in military chiefs' testimony
Oliver Burkeman in New York
Thursday August 3, 2006
The Guardian

The tapes seriously damage the credibility of the claim, made repeatedly by the vice-president, Dick Cheney, that the White House had weighed the question of giving authorisation for flight 93 to be shot down if necessary. In fact, the vice-president knew of the hijack barely a minute before the plane crashed. The authority to give the order was provided by the president at 10.18 - after the attack had ended.
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althecat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 05:46 AM
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22. Your search - source:new_york_times cheney norad - did not match any docu.
See...

http://news.google.com/news?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8...

"Your search - source:new_york_times cheney norad - did not match any documents."

Why?

Don't they read the Guardian?

Perhaps someone should buy them a sub.
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althecat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 05:48 AM
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23. Your search - source:washington_post norad cheney - did not match any....
http://news.google.com/news?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8...

Seems they need a Guardian sub in D.C. too....
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althecat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 05:30 AM
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17. SCOOP/UQ WIRE: 11 Questions Avoided by the Media On NORAD Tapes
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althecat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 05:31 AM
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18. ^^ This Post Received 122 Recs - And Nobody Asked Any Of The ???s
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althecat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 05:33 AM
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19. How can we awaken Ameica's somnolent media?
Edited on Thu Aug-10-06 05:33 AM by althecat
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althecat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 05:39 AM
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20. You can start by K'n'Ring this thread.... lets make the MSM ashamed....
... afterall a fair few of our media makers and shakers do in fact read this site.

Do your job guys and gals.... at the moment you are a disgrace to your profession.

Need more convincing. Lets put this in perspective....

At best the VP lied about what happened on a day that 3500 people died - horribly - to make himself look like a go to guy in a jam.

At best the VP participated in a coverup of a systemic failure in the US air defence system which involved lying repeatedly to a congressionally appointed commission.

At worst the VP.... (lord knows...the worst can be very bad indeed.)
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althecat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 06:23 AM
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25. 9... now we are getting somewhere.... n/t
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althecat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 06:25 AM
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26. Anyone want to know what Google Prison is?
Norad is by one measure now in it....
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althecat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 06:35 AM
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27. Some of the people / orgs in Google Prison
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althecat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 07:11 AM
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28. Lou Dobbs mentioned NORAD yesterday apparently.
Just found these links searching DU...

Okay, now CNN is doing a story about FAA/DOD/Norad lies about 9/11
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

Lou Dobbs just slammed the BFEE, again!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
Lou it seems,with these latest revelations about the deceptions concerning the 9-11 DoD and NORAD testimony has just about had it with this bush administration calling them inept and not deserving of any credibility now and from here on out. He was visibly upset after that last segment.

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althecat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 07:14 AM
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29. Your search - source:cnn norad cheney - did not match any documents.
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althecat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 02:58 PM
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32. Raw Story & Youtube help CNN with news transmission
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althecat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 07:21 AM
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30. Annabanana shows how its done.
Edited on Thu Aug-10-06 07:21 AM by althecat
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althecat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 03:06 PM
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33. Until 8/2 what follows was a theory... Michael Kane's Case Agin' Cheney
Edited on Thu Aug-10-06 03:31 PM by althecat
Until last friday what follows was a theory, investigated by Mike Ruppert, but not independently verified.... several pieces of this theory are now admitted fact. What about the rest?


http://fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/011805_simplify_c...

Crossing the Rubicon
Simplifying the case against Dick Cheney

by
Michael Kane

EXTRACT...

9/11 War Games
Cheney was managing multiple war games and terror drills on 9/11 that paralyzed U.S. Air Force response.

In May of 2001 Dick Cheney was placed directly in charge of managing the "seamless integration" of all training exercises throughout the federal government and military agencies by presidential mandate.

The morning of 9/11 began with multiple training exercises of war games and terror drills which Cheney, as mandated by the president, was placed in charge of managing.

War games & terror drills included live-fly exercises with military aircraft posing as hijacked aircraft over the United States, as well as simulated exercises that placed "false blips" (radar injects indicating virtual planes) on FAA radar screens. One exercise titled NORTHERN VIGILANCE pulled Air Force fighters up into Canada simulating a Russian air attack, so there were very few fighters remaining on the east coast to respond. All of this paralyzed Air Force response ensuring that fighter jocks couldn't stop 9/11.

An unknown individual or command center referred to by Major Don Arias of NORAD as the "maestro" coordinated the war games. It is possible there was more than one maestro, but no one will name names. FTW has asked this question of everyone in relevant government and military positions, to no avail. Our investigation has found the maestro was either Dick Cheney, General Ralph "Ed" Eberhart, or both.

Whoever was coordinating the Air Force war games was under the management and direction of Dick Cheney, who was also in charge of managing a terror drill being set up on the West Side of downtown New York on 9/11 titled Tripod 2. This exercise set up a command and control center on 9/11 that was configured exactly like the one lost that morning in WTC 7. It was the perfect command center to respond to the crisis, and it was under Dick Cheney's management before the hijackings occurred. How convenient.

Dick Cheney was one of the main government officials deciding that such extensive war games would take place on 9/11. This was when American intelligence had collected dozens of warnings from governments and intelligence agencies indicating that terrorists were planning to hijack civilian aircraft and crash them into American targets on the ground during the week of September 9th, 2001.

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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-11-06 12:05 AM
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34. al..."Scoop" covers all sorts of key stories nobody in America covers.

"Now admitedly this is partly due to aspects of how Google News reads Scoop pages. But if anyone in America was writing about either NORAD or Dick Cheney - or preferrably both - then the above would probably not be the case. (NOTE THAT THIS INCLUDES THE BLOGOSPHERE....)"

You are shocked by this as would any journalist or informed citizen of any country in the world save North Korea & Burma, a coupole of others maybe. The few DUers who are surprised about Scoop stories and ask "why does this have to be published here" are not yet jaded enough to know what we abberations know - the end of the human race could be coming and it wouldn't get covered here unless "management" said yes...and the end of the species is at hand in the form of global climate change due to a 20 foot rise in sealevel...let me check, be right back...

Tried a couple of searches on this highly relevant topic. After all, 20 feed ends Florida period, no cities left, none, zip, zilch, nada. You would think that they might cover that story. Nope!

We're not typical, normal...our press is under total lock down, just sitting there fiddling while Rome burns...

THANK YOU FOR THE GREAT 911 STORY, IT IS TRULY MAGNIFICENT.

Question of the Year: What if the human species became extince and nobody covered it?

========================================

Sea Levels Already Rising Along Florida Coast
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The Coming Catastrophe
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... in tenuous times, some even believe the end times. ... Global warming is real and a very serious problem ... torture, murder, destruction of the human race is happening ...
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