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Hoping4Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 04:19 PM
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2 night ago I saw a John Hagee broadcast that is shocking.
Today I have seen Hagee's name mentioned a number of times in posts but no mention of a chilling broadcast I saw.

First let me say I do not watch Christian TV so its a fluke I caught this bizarre broadcast.

What initially caught my eye was Benny Hinn holding Jewish Prayer shawl. I thought it strange to I listened in. Hinn was saying that Christians who had these shawls and were using them were finding that their prayers were being mightily strengthened, that the shawls had power. Christian sentiments were embodirdered at either ends of the shawl which made the shawls extra speical.

I then changed channels but came back later curious to see what else he was saying. But lo and behold Hagee's show just started and it was quite the production. Behind Hagee were US and Israeli flags. It was a very somber setting.

I can't recall his introductory comments about US and Israel but they lead into his preaching to a large congregation. And the topic? The unspeakable evil of anti-semitism and that it needed to be stamped out. Hagee went through a list of Christians writers, starting back to Christ's crucification and excoriated each writer/theologian for anti-semitic remarks. To drive the points home he would say each of these writiers were no different from Islamic suicide bombers and that their comments about Jews was like their strapping on bombs around their waste.


I couldn't stomach watching the entire spectacle but as I have thought about it seems that Xhristian fundies have started on an all out campaign to bolster Israel's standing in the fundie community.
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Sherman A1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 04:22 PM
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1. And the shawls are available
at the gift shop on the way out of the service and by calling this 800 number?
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 04:22 PM
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2. Whaddaya know! good ol' Benny sells those shawls!
Edited on Thu Aug-03-06 04:23 PM by Fridays Child
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 04:39 PM
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7. and they're only $30
What a bargain! I know Benny wouldn't sell it if it didn't work! :sarcasm:
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 04:25 PM
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3. This may interest you.
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Hoping4Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 04:35 PM
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5. Very interesting. I never heard about him. Thanks.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 04:32 PM
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4. Superstition replaces logic and science...
another step.
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Hoping4Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 04:40 PM
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8. True but their massive efforts to sell Israel to their followers
Edited on Thu Aug-03-06 04:40 PM by Hoping4Change
is not just flogging superstition to the masses. There's a political agenda in play.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 04:56 PM
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9. Of course there is, there is always a power agenda.
And the sheep eat it up right until they are reclassified from producers to mutton.

But it is the next step.
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Hoping4Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 05:02 PM
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10. " reclassified from producers to mutton."
:rofl:


Thanks I needed that.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 04:35 PM
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6. The fundies need Israel to survive & win any conflict with Muslims.
So they can kill them themselves.
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 05:05 PM
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11. This is why Fundies support Israel
Its all VERY self serving...

The Grim Fate of Israel

The source of the idea of the Great Tribulation is found in Jesus last words regarding Israel, which are recorded in Matthew 24 and Luke 21.


Nothing can or will be done by Christians to save Israels Jews from this disaster, for all of the Christians will have been removed from this world three and a half years prior to the beginning of this 42-month period of tribulation. (The total period of seven years is interpreted as the fulfillment of the seventieth week of Daniel .)

In order for most of todays Christians to escape physical death, two-thirds of the Jews in Israel must perish, soon. This is the grim prophetic trade-off that fundamentalists rarely discuss publicly, but which is the central motivation in the movements support for Israel.


http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig/north7.html
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Hoping4Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 05:34 PM
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12. I have heard about Xhristians having ants in their pants in
anticipation of glory days. But haveing read some posts over the last several days I think their is also something less theological afoot. Zonkers posted the following article which is really worth the read. Besides addressing the fundie fantacism it has some chilling and illuminating observations, such as:

"The Israeli military apparatus is for all matter of purposes fully integrated within the US military-industrial complex. The current devastation of Lebanon was fully coordinated with the Bush administration, a part of the master plan to reshape the Middle East within the parameters of the Project for a New American Century with the ultimate objective of full spectrum dominance over the world. To reach this objective, the United States will have to first bring Iran and Syria into the fold. Once Eurasia and the Middle East are fully dominated and controlled, the U.S. will turn its attention toward a more formidable competitor, China."



The American-Israeli New Middle East.....http://www.swans.com/library/art12/ga213.html

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