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Gold Metal Flake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 01:55 PM
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This is how they take over everything. (Liberal media silent)

White House Proposal Would Expand Authority of Military Courts

By R. Jeffrey Smith
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, August 2, 2006; Page A04
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/20...

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The draft proposed legislation, set to be discussed at two Senate hearings today, is controversial inside and outside the administration because defendants would be denied many protections guaranteed by the civilian and traditional military criminal justice systems.

Under the proposed procedures, defendants would lack rights to confront accusers, exclude hearsay accusations, or bar evidence obtained through rough or coercive interrogations. They would not be guaranteed a public or speedy trial and would lack the right to choose their military counsel, who in turn would not be guaranteed equal access to evidence held by prosecutors.

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Under the proposed procedures, defendants would lack rights to confront accusers, exclude hearsay accusations, or bar evidence obtained through rough or coercive interrogations. They would not be guaranteed a public or speedy trial and would lack the right to choose their military counsel, who in turn would not be guaranteed equal access to evidence held by prosecutors.

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Some independent experts say the new procedures diverge inappropriately from existing criminal procedures and provide no more protections than the ones struck down by the Supreme Court as inadequate. John D. Hutson, the Navy's top uniformed lawyer from 1997 to 2000, said the rules would evidently allow the government to tell a prisoner: "We know you're guilty. We can't tell you why, but there's a guy, we can't tell you who, who told us something. We can't tell you what, but you're guilty."

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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 02:00 PM
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1. TORTURE COURTS
Edited on Thu Aug-03-06 02:01 PM by annabanana
great! just f*cking great!

on edit: nominated for visibility
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kurth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 02:01 PM
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2. Stalin would have been so proud!
Goddamned thugs.
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Zensea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 02:22 PM
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3. Um - the article is in the liberal media
and I've read this information several other places recently as well, so the idea of them being silent is a bit of a stretch.

The way they take over is if Congress and/or us, let this stuff go through.

"Drafted proposed legislation," means just that -- Proposed.
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KaptBunnyPants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 02:34 PM
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4. They talk about it - but it's just not important like a blow job is.
Bush has just proposed setting up secret courts run by the military which strip all rights from the accused, and our mewing kittens of a press corp see it as just another story. Don't worry though, I'm sure they'll regain their fangs by the time the next Democratic President gets elected (Diebold willing...).
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Gold Metal Flake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 02:36 PM
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5. Um - kinda gotta search for it.
Facist totalitarian takeover of the US. Story on page 4.

Page 4.

KnowhutImean?

Mel still on the news?
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Zensea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 02:45 PM
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6. Granted, it's not a lot of noise, but it's still not silence
that's all I'm saying.

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Gold Metal Flake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 04:16 PM
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7. Write your congresspeople. kick.
And the papers.
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mhatrw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 04:48 PM
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8. What's the Bill of Rights between a couple of "enemy combatants"?
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