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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 10:39 AM
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What neo-cons (and/or Republicans) don't grasp.
They don't understand that ideas never die. They can try to force their ideology on every peoples in the world and crush as much dissent as officially possible, but it won't make a freaking bit of difference. Ideas carry on, are modified, and passed between individuals and across generations. You can torture, beat, or kill the body but you cannot destroy the ideas that originated in with that person or that were shared by that person with others. The world will suffer until people stand up and let them know that they remember and they value the thoughts and ideas they carry within them. Ideas like free speech, freedom of assembly, etc.--

Cue Patrick Henry here.
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 10:41 AM
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1. They are actually creating what they are trying to destroy...
...on just about every level and in just about every instance.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 10:58 AM
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3. Have you asked yourself why? Because the corrupt members of their
party, from the local level to the federal level, are making profits during this era of open corruption. No regulation. It's cowboy times, and people are getting f****d in the b*** and no one can help them.

You all have no idea, no idea.
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 12:35 PM
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5. I have no idea? You don't know me. - n/t
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 04:15 PM
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6. I bet you my sad story is worse than your sad story.
Edited on Thu Aug-03-06 04:16 PM by The Backlash Cometh
My sad story is sooooo bad, I make the Elephant Man look like Mel Gibson on a sober day.
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 04:38 PM
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7. Oh yeah? Well, my sad story is so bad,...
...it can bend Delay's "hair."
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 05:12 PM
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9. Oh, yeah, but my sad story is so bad
Edited on Thu Aug-03-06 05:13 PM by The Backlash Cometh
that I'm not even allowed within 100 feet of the Chicago, Las Vegas or Orlando city limits.
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 05:28 PM
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10. How do you get kicked out of Vegas? OK, you win. - n/t
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 07:24 AM
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12. Well, maybe I wrote that wrong. I probably should have said,
my story is so sad, that even the homeless in Chicago, Las Vegas and Orlando are better off than I am!

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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 09:30 AM
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13. Heh, I'll still let you have it. - n/t
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 10:41 AM
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2. Ideas like pushing Israel into the sea?
Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 04:42 PM
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8. "Israel will never be safe until the last Palestinian is dead."
Edited on Thu Aug-03-06 04:45 PM by TahitiNut
That's also an "idea" that never seems to die. :shrug: It's an (admittely) extreme form of revisionist Zionism that's been around since the 20s and 30s, but it sure seems to echo down through the years. Why doesn't it get the "press" anymore?

My position? A plague on both their houses for not embracing the 'peace' they say they advocate.
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The2ndWheel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 11:05 AM
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4. Does that work for all ideas?
Or just the good ones?
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flaminbats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 06:35 PM
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11. sometimes our ideas come back to haunt us..
Edited on Thu Aug-03-06 06:36 PM by flaminbats
Tom DeLay.."There are no clarified rules of engagement. There is no timetable. There is no legitimate definition of victory. There is no contingency plan for mission creep. There is no clear funding program. There is no agenda to bolster our overextended military. There is no explanation defining what vital national interests are at stake. There was no strategic plan for war when the President started this thing, and there still is no plan today."

http://www.thenation.com/blogs/thebeat?bid=1&pid=24148

"Democrats completely ignore the desperate need for deficit reduction, which in itself would be a major step forward toward enhancing our Nation's competitiveness." -- Delay on the House floor, September 22, 1992


President . . . is once again releasing American military might on a foreign country with an ill-defined objective and no exit strategy. He has yet to tell the Congress how much this operation will cost. And he has not informed our nations armed forces about how long they will be away from home. These strikes do not make for a sound foreign policy.
Sen Rick Santorum (R-PA), when Clinton was President


Bush.."It must be in the national interests. It must be in our vital interest whether we ever send troops. The mission must be clear. Soldiers must understand why were going. The force must be strong enough so that the mission can be accomplished. And the exit strategy needs to be well-defined. Im concerned that were overdeployed around the world. You see, I think the mission has somewhat become fuzzy."

Source: St. Louis debate Oct 17, 2000

Bush again when Clinton was President.."Victory means exit strategy, and its important for the President to explain to us what the exit strategy is.


a final quote from Delay..You can support the troops but not the president.

:wow: so I can support our troops and oppose this Republican quagmire!
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